ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

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What debate? There is no debate anymore. All this thread consists of is people rightly voicing their opinion and then you swanning in and deriding them like the self-inflated pompous twit that you are.

The fact that you're fighting what is clearly a losing battle seems to matter little to you. If you're right about Ronaldo being horribly repwesented by the big mean pwess (which you're probably not, by the way) then you're still not going to convince those that believe otherwise to see your side of things. Fans have drawn their lines, and to just accuse them of being spastic and irrational because they refuse to take your side helps no one.

Debate consists, generally, of the voicing of opinions whilst providing reasoning and evidence.

I've suggested that what Custis has done is appeal to people's emotions - and, indirectly, that that is what the tabloids have done all summer. I've suggested that what motivates the 'c*nt-callers' are those emotions rather than any sort of objective assessment of facts.

I've backed that up by showing that the verifiable facts don't show any disrespect towards the club, merely an interest in moving elsewhere. Certainly that is not an attitude of which a fan would approve, but Ronaldo is a player, not a fan. I, like some others, believe Ronaldo is being criticised mostly for not loving the club like a fan.




It's undeniable that Ronaldo has been misrepresented in the press - numerous times - the question is what effect that has on the readers' interpretations of the story. Propaganda generally, is effective whether you are aware of its nature or not, merely in a different degree (see the anti-PC campaigns - founded on misrepresentation - mostly accepted as truth - 'there's no smoke without fire!') I'll continue to stress the propaganda element of the anti-Ronaldo lobby for as long as I have the energy tbh.




If you look back you will see that the 'spastic' type remarks were originally made against Ronaldo and simply reflected back upon the original poster by myself in a manner they seemed to enjoy. Many anti-Ronaldo posters also wear their emotion/irrationality as a badge of pride (as if passion requires it) - so to accuse them of succumbing to it is surely no insult - merely a fact.
 
It's at this point I maybe suspect some of being paranoid and Ron of being gullible - where as some probably will suspect me of being gullible and Ron of being an evil and scheming plotter.

Ron answered questions from the press as to where he wanted to play the most next year. He first tried to lie ("I stay"), he then tried to duck the question ("I will tell later, not now") and then to be honest.

As I said, he should have stuck to the lie until it was sorted with Ferguson. Not doing so, does in my book not qualify as "orchestrating a move" or "showing a lack of respect for fans' feelings", but more as being naive.

Of course, to The Belittled Lover Fan (BLF):
- if he'd kept with the lie, he would be a "two faced, two tounged, back stabbin son of a portugese prostitute".
- if he'd stuck to the "no comment", he'd be a "soulless ice cold cowardly self serving egoist son of a portugese prostitute".
- if he was honest, he is ... well, obviously, "a cnut".

Of course the problem really IS his dream of playing for Real Madrid.

Whilst I disagree with the probable reason for the 'I stay' (as stated regularly), I'd definitely go with the rest.
 
I feel fantastic because Ronaldo stays because its wonderful to have him in our team because he can do things no one else can do and that makes other supporters hate him but still admire him. To lose such a player is not good.
 
This has nothing to do with transfers or articles written on Ronaldo. New thread for new topic.

Agree, the bullshit thread is speculation about Ronaldos future and we all know that Fergie has fixed that issue.

But to your question, I will sing it. I feel my bad feelings towards Ronaldo are letting go.
 
He needs to stop acting like a child. When he gets fouled he stays on the ground and throws his arms up in the air like a baby. He needs to cut that shit out and get off your ass and chase the ball down and try to win it back.


He has every right to complain like that when he's pulled down 15th time in the game and Clattenburg(read: some cnut ref.) just waves and the other team "wins" the ball.. His mentality is so different to Wayne's which is important to have inside the locker room. It's like comparing Beckham and Giggsy: Both are great players(some might use the word "legends") but have totally different way of looking things...

"Viva Ronaldo" ??? I will sing it at home, at work, at bars and the 1-2 times I get to travel to OT I will sing it there as well..
 
Agree, the bullshit thread is speculation about Ronaldos future and we all know that Fergie has fixed that issue.
eh, the bullshit specualtion on whether or not we will be singing Viva Ronaldo has been discussed fully in the other bullshit speculation thread.
If we were to start a new Ronaldo fred for each Ronaldo thought that comes into your head we'll be in chaos. If this thread is not merged shortly I'll show you what that means.
 
eh, the bullshit specualtion on whether or not we will be singing Viva Ronaldo has been discussed fully in the other bullshit speculation thread.
If we were to start a new Ronaldo fred for each Ronaldo thought that comes into your head we'll be in chaos. If this thread is not merged shortly I'll show you what that means.

Wow! That's a strong word. By Chaos you mean some new threads being created with the word 'Ronaldo' in the title. Yup, sounds like chaos to me.
 
Will you ever sing it again? After all the fecking about he's done with United through the summer. He has completely disrespected the club and been an ungrateful little boy. Does he deserve our support anymore?

The highlighted part is tosh tbh.

He will merit a 'Viva...' when he has shown that he really is playing with all his 'heart & soul' this season as promised.
 
Have to say, it's still amazing how much of the media-spin people still seem to reckon came out of Ronaldo's own mouth and accurately reflected his opinion.
When you're on the edge of your seat, hungry for information and you're fed crumbs....you tend to disect every letter of every word and twist it to your liking (or hating). That's what the media has done too and we've lapped it up. Who knows still, what the truth is.
He's still a cnut though. Probably.
 
The highlighted part is tosh tbh.

He will merit a 'Viva...' when he has shown that he really is playing with all his 'heart & soul' this season as promised.

This still won't prevent the fact that he wanted to leave us and still does want to go to Real Madrid. I really don't think that his heart will 100% be at Old Trafford.
 
When you're on the edge of your seat, hungry for information and you're fed crumbs....you tend to disect every letter of every word and twist it to your liking (or hating). That's what the media has done too and we've lapped it up. Who knows still, what the truth is.
He's still a cnut though. Probably.

Nah - just a player tempted to leave us and tempted to speak the truth.

I save the word 'c*nt' for people like Bush, Thatcher and Barton.
 
Bahama your desperation to get everything merged into that other thread so that it hits 20,000 is quite sad really ;)
I'm now having to deal with 3 (soon to be 4) separate Ronaldo threads each discussing the same stuff. The post count is not important. It seems that caftards wanting to start their own duplicate threads is more important.
The just can't get good mods these days. Just pubile posters
 
At the moment I depise him but as soon as he wins us a game I'll forgive him I know I will i'm very fickle like that
 
Driven by fame, trophies, etc...

Not necessarily a bad thing for us really until ambition kicks in.

I thought that had to be the sort of thing you were going for (though I expected 'adulation' as well given the context). However, such motivation is usually described as a form of self-motivation to better oneself (hence intrinsic). Both are valid descriptions though.
 
I'm now having to deal with 3 (soon to be 4) separate Ronaldo threads each discussing the same stuff. The post count is not important. It seems that caftards wanting to start their own duplicate threads is more important.
The just can't get good mods these days. Just pubile posters

Calm down man, It is a forum. Surely there's something else more serious in your life you can worry about.
 
This still won't prevent the fact that he wanted to leave us and still does want to go to Real Madrid. I really don't think that his heart will 100% be at Old Trafford.

He wants to go sometime - and thought this summer would be a good opportunity - it hasn't happened - everyone needs to get over it.

I reckon the problem is that fans think about playing from their own perspective (limited talent, amateur, devoted) - for them the main factor is their devotion - for a pro the main factors are skill, application and professionalism - none of these need be backed by devotion. 100% - as a 100% professional - not an amateur, nor a fan.
 
Custis is a dangerous fella. He would do well at Marca or AS.

Just when you think the pitchforks and burning torches are going to be returned to barracks - it shows how raw everyone's nerves are when even Custis can push the buttons

There's an interesting angle on where we're going next at:
http://sport.scotsman.com/sport/Ronaldo-makes-up-with-Sir.4374017.jp

Which contains a swipe at how much fun the press are likely to have with Ron over the next few weeks.
The English papers, sniffing the blood of Ronaldo's renewed unpopularity with United fans, have a contract out on him. It can only be a matter of time before the next sleazy "exclusive".

Though that article is refering to the "girlfriends" issue, you can bet we'll see some other skeletons dragged out of cupboards as well - he's been with us for 5 years, I'm sure he's pissed off a few people over the years.

Meanwhile over in the Spanish press, along with the usual speculation on secret negotiations, Calderon says he'll talk about Cristiano on Monday. Oh, joy.
 
I don't know about viva ronaldo. Depends what happens, how he plays and how the crowd reacts, as he kept reminding us this summer, no one knows the future.

Unfortunately you can't seem to have the 'Rooney mentality' and have all the technique and skill of Ronaldo. Hmmm yes ye can...Lionel Messi.

Ronaldo and Rooney's attitude on the pitch are actually quite similar. Both hate losing and are driven to succeed. Both can be petulant and we'd hate both of them if they didn't play for United. Biggest difference is Rooney is English and for him it doesn't get better than Manchester United.
 
It's actually the last few pages since he said he'd stay, not 500 pages, bhoy.

I don't give a shit where it is. I'm not going to waste time looking through that thread for certain comments that may or may not be there.

And your smart 'bhoy' comment is quite weak in trying to take the piss as I asked the admins to change my username. I did create the username more than 3 years ago when I did quite like Celtic and thought it may have been possible to support 2 teams. Which, since then, I have thought otherwise.
 
Just when you think the pitchforks and burning torches are going to be returned to barracks - it shows how raw everyone's nerves are when even Custis can push the buttons

There's an interesting angle on where we're going next at:
http://sport.scotsman.com/sport/Ronaldo-makes-up-with-Sir.4374017.jp

Which contains a swipe at how much fun the press are likely to have with Ron over the next few weeks.
The English papers, sniffing the blood of Ronaldo's renewed unpopularity with United fans, have a contract out on him. It can only be a matter of time before the next sleazy "exclusive".

Though that article is refering to the "girlfriends" issue, you can bet we'll see some other skeletons dragged out of cupboards as well - he's been with us for 5 years, I'm sure he's pissed off a few people over the years.

Meanwhile over in the Spanish press, along with the usual speculation on secret negotiations, Calderon says he'll talk about Cristiano on Monday. Oh, joy.
I get that feeling too jojo . I think over the next few weeks Ronaldo and us fans are going to get some stick. I'm developing the opinion that we may need to support Ronnie through all of this, if we want him to gel back in.
 
nah - just a player who wanted to leave us.....big difference, and that's where the cnut things pops in.

Tempted as far as saying 'can I go' almost exclusively in private - until he realised his new lover was false.

We'd shown we didn't really love him enough (no new contract) - his new paramour promised him both the earth and that his ex would be happy.
 
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