Christ, Ronnie is not being kept here against his will ... I hope this helps.
ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation
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I've actually found myself singing Viva Ronaldo a few times since yesterday, so sub-conciously, deep down, I must be glad he's staying. I don't think I'll ever feel the same about Ronaldo again, but now it's time to put it behind us, toe the party line, blame it on Real & get behind the team.
fecked if I'm ever gonna agree with Cuntis!
fecked if I'm ever gonna agree with Cuntis!
I love the way you have all become experts on what drives Ronaldo.
I don't get what you are arguing
Do you agree he has acted in a crap manner? Or are you happy to let that slide just because he has been railroaded into staying? I wish I knew such forgiving people. That lad deserves a bit of shoddy fan treatment, if anything, to deflate his enormous ego.
He lied.
He tried to wriggle out of his contract.
He actively courted one our biggest European rivals.
He acted like a cnut.
Feed me, So you're going to boo him? Congratulations...
His agreement with Blatter, in terms of what remarks he intended ,were the subject of considerable debate.
We still have only the one portrayal of the context of the question - on which basis I would (as posted) have judged it as 'abhorrent' - although the only such remark he made. No alternative or corroborative translations of both question and answer in context have been given despite appeals.
Is it a back-track or a clarification? Given how much we have all seen the media distort the content of statements to suit their agendas, why do you insist that the most reprehensible interpretations of Ronaldo's remarks here are the right ones?
Apart from that, all he's done is speak the truth - too many fans cannot deal with that it seems.
How did he actually try to wriggle out of his contract, without handing in a transfer request
You know what? I give up... waste of time. Viva Ronaldo!
Football's a fickle game mate. Players are loved or despised by thousands based on no more than what shirt they're wearing.
Ronaldo's no more or less imune than anyone else, and he's old enough to be aware of his actions. If he'd engaged his brain and grown a pair before acting out, he could have sat there having made his intentions clear to the club, without anyone thinking any less of him.
He didn't. Obviously different people will see it in a different way, but you can't blame football fans for acting like football fans.
Basically saying that clubs happily move players around like slaves when it suits them and as such players should be able to move around when the mood takes them.
The very fact that the FIFA president dared to bring slavery into the debate is embarrassing and offensive. Even if the players are sometimes sold against their will, to liken them to slaves is a joke.
Blatter has since tried to backtrack from his statements by saying he was totally misquoted and his comments have been distorted. This man has an entire catalogue of spastic quotes.
You well versed in putting words in other people's mouths.
All I have said is that his conduct has been shit and I have no respect for him. There is very little warm feeling from me towards him. Big deal; like he gives a feck what Feed Me of Redcafe thinks.
As an aside, I wouldn't boo a United player at a United game - counter productive.
Siding with "an ABU wum-merchant" (shouldn't that be wu-merchant) shows that people aren't necessarily programmed to automatically discard an opinion just because it's being given by someone they don't much care for. There are those who refuse to acknowledge anything said by someone like Custis just because they don't like what's been said in the past.
That's not a lot better than behaving ike you've been brainwashed. There's a lot in that article that's true, and if you choose not to see it that way, that's your choice...don't call those of us who see it differently "sad" and "disgraceful".
I don't get what you are arguing
Do you agree he has acted in a crap manner? Or are you happy to let that slide just because he has been railroaded into staying? I wish I knew such forgiving people. That lad deserves a bit of shoddy fan treatment, if anything, to deflate his enormous ego.
I say we know nothing about his motives and who or what pressures have been placed on him, family etc have a big influence on most peoples lives.
I have always thought he believed that if Madrid offered mega bucks and the clubs were happy then great he has his dream challenge but when SAF informed him that not only were United not interested in any offer but no offer had ever been made he is quite happy to stay and he will try and be the best he can. He could have asked for a transfer (and money would not have been a factor in that) which have put the club if a much more difficult position but chose not to.
The way people offer only their own opinion dressed up in fancy words then try to downgrade the opinions of others on this issue at the same time is beyond belief!
Ronaldo himself has admitted he did some wrong, now the issue is over for the meanwhile.
It will be good for this place when it is not discussed anymore and the new season is on the agenda.
Ronaldo himself has admitted he did some wrong, now the issue is over for the meanwhile.
It will be good for this place when it is not discussed anymore and the new season is on the agenda.
Of what remarks are you thinking? Was that a lie, or change of mind? Evidence?
Nope - he acknowledged the extent to which Utd's contract gave them control. That same contract would have ensured as much financial reward as they wanted to insist upon - the figure would be higher since he had recently extended it. (All in Utd's favour tbh.)nickm said:
To the extent that the only club to which he expressed interest in moving is one of our rivals - yes. Did you expect him to want to move to Cordoba?nickm said:
Not to the extent of many 'fans' on here tbh.nickm said:
Spoken the truth? Er, no. He has never come out and told us what the feck he was doing. He left it to insidious Marca/RM driven campaigns to engineer his transfer. His constant, "I will comment in two weeks" statements allowed the whole thing to drag on and on and on and on...
He courted the attention and he fuelled the fire with his deafening silence.
You are completely wrong in your assertions. Until yesterday he never told the truth or spoke with any clarity.
Sometimes you have to read between the lines - Ronaldo clearly had an agenda and went about it in a very unclassy way. It is undeniable.
Fair enough mate, just picked up on this in your post 'That lad deserves a bit of shoddy fan treatment, if anything, to deflate his enormous ego.' so not exactly putting words in your mouth.
I love the way you have all become experts on what drives Ronaldo.
Come on. It's been written all over everything he does since the second he's arrived at the club.
Take Rooney as a comparative example. Wayne Rooney's objective is Manchester United doing well, and Wayne Rooney doing well for Manchester United.
Christiano Ronaldo's objective is Christiano Ronaldo doing well, and looking good, for Manchester United.
If he gave a shit about the club he wouldn't have spent half the summer pissing on it.
I don't get this notion of a transfer request making United's life any more difficult.
-He would still have the same length contract.
-The fact is, even without the transfer request, we all knew he wanted to go.
So you'd think better of him if he'd lied?
Agreed. You can't on one hand laud Keane for being a hero without having a sense of what it is that we value in players like him, and therefore what we despise in others.
We value loyalty, honesty, commitment, respect for club traditions. Those help define club legends. Ronaldo has demonstrated none of those. If Keane is a hero, Ronaldo is a cnut.
He is our cnut though. He can earn our respect back. Let's hope he does.
Can't be arsed to find quotes, but this is the gist of it.
Rooney: I want to stay here as long as they want me.
SAF: Rooney is the ultimate team player. Sacrifices himself.
Ronaldo: It is my dream to play for Madrid. It is my dream to win the Ballon d'Or.
In my view, all he's guilty of is being an arrogant and slightly naive prick.
But that's him all over, it's always been the way he's acted. He's our prick. It doesn't bother me one bit. It could have been a lot worse, he could have tried to force a transfer through by threatening not to play.
This summer will all seem like a distant memory by the time he's banging in the goals half way through next season...Viva Ronaldo.
But that's him all over, it's always been the way he's acted. He's our prick. It doesn't bother me one bit. It could have been a lot worse, he could have tried to force a transfer through by threatening not to play.
This summer will all seem like a distant memory by the time he's banging in the goals half way through next season...Viva Ronaldo.
He did lie.
I'd have thought better of him if he'd kept his mouth shut and handled the matter with the club, rather than making some bizarre and obviously doomed attempt to cut them out of the equation.
Except the remarks about slaves were made in response to an entirely separate question to that containing the name Ronaldo. The 2 disparate items: Ronaldo and slavery, were only connected by the media later - not by Blatter it appears.
In the course of a longish interview he'd answered one question about football in general when he apparently wanted to refer to dubious practices that do exist, likening them to a 'modern slavery'. In an entirely separate question he was asked about Ronaldo apparently being unhappy and wishing to move - he thought that it was best if the players were happy. Only the media decided he'd called Ronaldo a slave - there was little evidence he had done so.
I still think it's likely that Blatter knew how the 2 nearby remarks might get spun. It still dosn't mean that Ronaldo's agreement with Blatter agreed with the spin rather than his remarks though.
Blatter's still a pillock - Ronaldo is still not a c*nt.
How did he actually try to wriggle out of his contract, without handing in a transfer request
In case you hadn't noticed, by agitating for a move, by practically begging Real to stump up the money for a move, by agreeing with Sepp Blatter's ludicrous comments than he should be "allowed" to transfer to Madrid. All designed to pressure United into letting him break his contract.
I agree to some extent. But you're overestimating Rooney's loyalty. He'd leave as soon as United become shit and I wouldn't put him on the same level as a Scholes, Giggs and Ole.
Oh come on Uniteds position would have been virtually untenable ......... there was enough crap about keeping unhappy players without him making any such request can't you imagine every political animal in the world of football would have had their say and both fifa and uefa would be far more likely to be in Madrids camp than ours.
That is the big issue. By the time Ronaldo was asked about Blatter's comments, he will have been very aware, as we all were, that Blatter had cooked up a storm with his interview. Ronaldo's best course of action would have been to have distanced himself from these quotes, but he is reported to have agreed with the sentiments. Stupidity in the extreme that is...
True - but you can blame them for acting like mentally retarded delusional football fans.
So, we've got blatter apologists now
Do you know exactly what Blatter said? and when did he beg Real to stump up the money as you put it ......... another quote from a "friend"
So, we've got blatter apologists now
There goes you being rich down the shitter.
A fecking lie. Night of being Euro Champion - says one thing. Morning after: says another. That's not mind changing. That's him lying.
It is quite obvious that he was attempting to get out of his agreement with United and strike a deal with Real. FFS, you are worse than Clinton quibbling about the definition of 'is'.
I am impressed how you are able to both sound intelligent and come across as completely stupid.
Ah, but we do not know the strength of SAF's/Gill's and the Glazer's resolve on this issue. Maybe they would have been true to their word and "sat him in the stands."
I don't buy into this transfer request nonesense. All that would have done was made public Ronaldo's desire to leave. But that was already the world's worst kept secret. He wanted to leave irrespective of a transfer request or not. He was just feathering his nest and making sure that things were still relatively cushty if a move to Madrid did not materialise.
So, we've got blatter apologists now
not apologists, just amused at those who rabbit on when not even knowing exactly what he said and who believe so much that appears in the media.
If you think for one second money was any sort of motivation you certainly have read little about Ronaldo or his father!
What's the point of this discussion anymore? There are those who think the whole thing has been blown out of proportion (Pogue, FS) and there are those who think that Ronaldo has irrevocably damaged his reputation with the fans by treating the club so shamelessly (dippersripper, CnutofAllCnuts).
Neither side is going to agree with the other and all we get is post after post of tedious repetition followed by a bunch of green laughing smileys that, I suppose, are supposed to get across how stupid the other side are "clearly" being.
It's all rather dull, frankly. Do none of you realise that you're all being made to look like bone-headed idiots?
Neither side is going to agree with the other and all we get is post after post of tedious repetition followed by a bunch of green laughing smileys that, I suppose, are supposed to get across how stupid the other side are "clearly" being.
It's all rather dull, frankly. Do none of you realise that you're all being made to look like bone-headed idiots?
Ronaldo will be a legend with another season or two of greatness at United, there is no way he will be loved though, which is sad because he is a special player who has it all, and is the best in the world when he wears the red of United
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