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Also in the Telegraph today (but not on the internet) is an interesting table showing how Ronaldo's inclusion in last seasons team made a difference.
When Ronaldo played we scored an average of 2.29 goals per game and earned 2.38 points. When Ronaldo did not play we scored 2 goals per game and earned 1.50 points.
However, in the two previous seasons we earned more points per game when he did not play.
Conclusion is what we knew already, Ronaldo had a phenomenal season in 2007-8.
When Ronaldo played we scored an average of 2.29 goals per game and earned 2.38 points. When Ronaldo did not play we scored 2 goals per game and earned 1.50 points.
However, in the two previous seasons we earned more points per game when he did not play.
Conclusion is what we knew already, Ronaldo had a phenomenal season in 2007-8.
You really need to have a chat with HR about unfair dismissal, Cnut, or you're gonna spend most of your working life in tribunals
You really need to have a chat with HR about unfair dismissal, Cnut, or you're gonna spend most of your working life in tribunals
Once I've been taken legal action against, and we settled it out of court.
Would have done the same again.
I think Fergie's comment re benching Ronaldo rather than selling him was designed to head that off.
Don't think the maths works out for the wages, by the way, the signing fee would dwarf the tax difference. But i can't be arsed to prove it. It's much of a muchness anyway, since he's not going this season.
Why are you confused. Why would he/she have to wait 12 months to start working again when you fired him/her? Even so, 12 months for a person who are briliant at the work he/she do are no problem for someone doing good business.
are you a successfull business man by any chance? if so, i'm amazed!
It's almost as good as winning the CL!
Good point cnut
Then I`m amazed too.
You really need to have a chat with HR about unfair dismissal, Cnut, or you're gonna spend most of your working life in tribunals
They often don't get to tribunals though. I mentioned the word tribunal once and they gave me a big check in return for me never mentioning it again.
Because United's case would have been weakened, Fergie could not claim he was perfectly happy to stay at United ........ the whole arguement and debate in the world of football and outside would have become far more polarized and bitter than occurred with Blatters stupidity and mindless comments. In the end United would have given in to outside pressure to come to an arrangement with Madrid.
Because for key people it is in the contract that they can't work for a rival company 12 months after leaving this company.
Don't these exchanges belong on the General thread?
It's standard policy
12 months is a bit long, granted, but my own contract stipulates a break of several months too
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well, I guess key people like that got their contract sortet, so when fired they got their rights. If they got to wait 12 months it will cost you good to fire them.
The fee would have been more or less the same. It was clear anyway that Ronaldo wanted to leave, and that United wanted to keep him. United sat on the key card though, Ronaldo's 5-year contract.
If most of the shit the press have wrote about Ronaldo was true, do you guys really think Fergie would be so fatherly like he is with Ronaldo? Fergie have never been afraid to show that his mad. And his not mad at Ronaldo, but Real Madrid.
It's standard policy
12 months is a bit long, granted, but my own contract stipulates a break of several months too
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You're talking about gardening leave. And I have never heard of anyone getting 12 months gardening leave. That would be insane. Sweet if it was possible, mind you
Officially, they've not been fired, they've resigned.
Sir Alex is a FANTASTIC man-manager, and manages the situation and the person the way required.
You're talking about gardening leave. And I have never heard of anyone getting 12 months gardening leave. That would be insane. Sweet if it was possible, mind you
I know of some. But it's a Catch 22 anyway - anyone who gets 12 months gardening leave would be itching to get back to work so much that he wouldn't enjoy his 12 months. Lazy gits like me who don't have 12 months will never rise to a position to get 12 months...
So am I but I was reading a Madrid messageboard yesterday and some fans were saying things like 'oh never mind that we didn't get Ronaldo, lets go for Kaka again'
Why is this a separate thread, most of the posts on here should be in the Ronaldo thread. If it was, some of the cnuts on here might be tempted to read the more rational articles posted from the better newspapers.
Btw, I hope the Sun jounos are not reading all this and making up another provactive article for tomorrows newspaper. Ronaldo is staying, we should all close ranks now. Its us against the world.
Got to agree on that. But I think we the fans should be happy that Ronaldo stays and be very careful about whats true and not in the media.
So am I but I was reading a Madrid messageboard yesterday and some fans were saying things like 'oh never mind that we didn't get Ronaldo, lets go for Kaka again'
Well if they do go for a big signing they will have even less money to spend next year!
What annoys me about them is that they just want a big name player, no matter which position they play. I am also loving this Robinho situation. His agent hit out at the club again today. Not a good time for Calderon is it
i am with this train of thought. i am not particularly happy with his antics over the summer but personally i think a lot of this story has been twisted and hyped by the media. i do think he needs to win the majority of fans back though, and rightly so. i am not going to be singing his name anytime soon but i am glad we have managed to keep the best player in the world at our club.
Bahama Red - there are 200 posts in the 'Custis re Ronaldo' thread that should be in this one imo.
What annoys me about them is that they just want a big name player, no matter which position they play. I am also loving this Robinho situation. His agent hit out at the club again today. Not a good time for Calderon is it
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/article-23529260-details/article.do?ito=newsnow&
The headline is misleading. I saw abit of the press conference so he probably did say all this.
United Chief Executive David Gill has steadfastly refused to extend Ronaldo's current playing contract but Ferguson would appear to differ.
The United manager added: 'He has four years left and hopefully at some point we will extend that and that is where we are.
'This was an important issue but there are very few players who have left me against my will'.
could be a tactic by fergie to get the fans singing his name to help him and encourage him or could be true that we're hopeful of extending contract.
Makes you wonder what Sir Alex said to him.
I personally think however unlikely it is, it's just as likely. One year at a time
The headline is misleading. I saw abit of the press conference so he probably did say all this.
United Chief Executive David Gill has steadfastly refused to extend Ronaldo's current playing contract but Ferguson would appear to differ.
The United manager added: 'He has four years left and hopefully at some point we will extend that and that is where we are.
'This was an important issue but there are very few players who have left me against my will'.
could be a tactic by fergie to get the fans singing his name to help him and encourage him or could be true that we're hopeful of extending contract.
Makes you wonder what Sir Alex said to him.
I personally think however unlikely it is, it's just as likely. One year at a time
the day he scores against liverpool we wont have a chance not singing his name. Or against City. Even sooner.
I wish we had sold him.
Always take verything in media with a large hadnfull of salt.
But, this article had nothing to do with what is true or not. I just said he's written the same as I feel, and most United fans feel.
From this morning's 'AS';
The tabloids celebrate the return of Cristiano
The news arrived very late Wednesday night, but all the British tabloids delayed their closing to carry on their front covers the statements of Cristiano Ronaldo. The phrase most used on the first page: "I will remain in Manchester". Nevertheless, in the 90 percent of the newspapers there was an addition to which has been given a lot of importance: "At least for one year". That it is the key that shuffled, for example, The Times. "Ferguson obtained in his visit to Lisbon a promise from Cristiano Ronaldo. He will remain a year more. But nothing is free in the world of the soccer".
On this point the tabloids coincide with the private version that offers Madrid of the matter: "Ferguson guaranteed Cristiano that next year he will leave him to come to us. We will sign him in 2009".
Pay raise.
The pay raise for the crack player is assured. Six million euro per annum may have been sufficient (charged 4.7 annual). The Sun went beyond, continuing the news that was published two days ago. "The footballer has accepted the deal. He will stay a year more to help Ferguson win his third consecutive Championship and later they will allow him to leave for 65 million pounds (82 million euro)".
All the tabloids ascribed the final victory of Ferguson on the monetary desires of the player. The Independent emphasized, besides, the generosity of Fergie by speaking well of his player: "The task of the manager now is to ensure the fans fondness for him is not lost.”.
'The monetary desires of the player? (Shurely shome mishtake - Ed)
The tabloids celebrate the return of Cristiano
The news arrived very late Wednesday night, but all the British tabloids delayed their closing to carry on their front covers the statements of Cristiano Ronaldo. The phrase most used on the first page: "I will remain in Manchester". Nevertheless, in the 90 percent of the newspapers there was an addition to which has been given a lot of importance: "At least for one year". That it is the key that shuffled, for example, The Times. "Ferguson obtained in his visit to Lisbon a promise from Cristiano Ronaldo. He will remain a year more. But nothing is free in the world of the soccer".
On this point the tabloids coincide with the private version that offers Madrid of the matter: "Ferguson guaranteed Cristiano that next year he will leave him to come to us. We will sign him in 2009".
Pay raise.
The pay raise for the crack player is assured. Six million euro per annum may have been sufficient (charged 4.7 annual). The Sun went beyond, continuing the news that was published two days ago. "The footballer has accepted the deal. He will stay a year more to help Ferguson win his third consecutive Championship and later they will allow him to leave for 65 million pounds (82 million euro)".
All the tabloids ascribed the final victory of Ferguson on the monetary desires of the player. The Independent emphasized, besides, the generosity of Fergie by speaking well of his player: "The task of the manager now is to ensure the fans fondness for him is not lost.”.
'The monetary desires of the player? (Shurely shome mishtake - Ed)
According to Ronaldo, a bid did materialise.
They should just shut up
They also said yesterday that Madrid had bid 55m for Ronaldo, which is a laughable bid but its probably not true anyway
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