ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

[Grande]

To be honest, it sounds pretty exactly like the whining of a little girl who has found out her best friend has another best friend too.

It may represent the feelings of many on here, but it is the view of someone more obsessed with his own hurt feelings than an interest in what is the likely truth of it all. Idolizing the loyalty of former United generations is mere hallusination.

Ronaldo admitted he has been naive in his way of handling it, and that is true. He should have lied about what he wanted when the press asked him, and had the conversation with Ferguson in the club office. His problem is his honesty.

Fergusons mistake, is clinging to his vacation, letting the press work on Ronaldos admission for weeks on end, in stead of having this conversation before or at least straight after the Euros.

The fans' mistake, is wanting to believe players are as bound to the club as we are. "If he don't want to play for United and United ONLY, he can just f**k off," is the talk of kids.

Ronnie is an athlete, and will, like Giggsy and Keano, do what is best for him to achieve his personal dreams. Unless he does a Solskjaer, and changes his favourite club, he'll never be an ultimate fan's hero in the mould of Solskjaer (who could never have been CL and PL winner without his loyalty), Best (who admittedly loved his life style and booze higher than United), or Duncan Edwards (who, rest his soul, died before he could prove he would never have left United, the Burnley boy).

But he will have done more than his bit for United, regardless.

 

[sammsky1]

Of course! Gallas is a hero. A legend. An upstanding and inspirational captain.

Whereas a certain United player is a slimeball. A cnut.

You're not really a United fan at all are you Sam?

You're a WUM.

You're a closet Gooner or Rentie really.
Admit it.

(Or are you just too arrogant and bitter to retract from a defeated position?)

I thought we had made up after our love letters to each other in that other thread!!

"closet Gooner or Rentie" - thats as close to a declaration of dislike and war that you could make!! Gloves off!!

 

[Pogue Mahone]

If he'd have come straight out and said "I defintely want to go Madrid this summer but it's between the two clubs" then everyone would have known where they stood.

That's almost exactly, word for word, what he did say in the interview with Terra.

As far as he's concerned, he made an effort to tell everyone exactly what his position was. Problem is, that article was roundly discredited by United fans, desperate to convince themselves he didn't want to leave.

 

[poisson]

To be honest, it sounds pretty exactly like the whining of a little girl who has found out her best friend has another best friend too.

It may represent the feelings of many on here, but it is the view of someone more obsessed with his own hurt feelings than an interest in what is the likely truth of it all. Idolizing the loyalty of former United generations is mere hallusination.

Ronaldo admitted he has been naive in his way of handling it, and that is true. He should have lied about what he wanted when the press asked him, and had the conversation with Ferguson in the club office. His problem is his honesty.

Fergusons mistake, is clinging to his vacation, letting the press work on Ronaldos admission for weeks on end, in stead of having this conversation before or at least straight after the Euros.

The fans' mistake, is wanting to believe players are as bound to the club as we are. "If he don't want to play for United and United ONLY, he can just f**k off," is the talk of kids.

Ronnie is an athlete, and will, like Giggsy and Keano, do what is best for him to achieve his personal dreams. Unless he does a Solskjaer, and changes his favourite club, he'll never be an ultimate fan's hero in the mould of Solskjaer (who could never have been CL and PL winner without his loyalty), Best (who admittedly loved his life style and booze higher than United), or Duncan Edwards (who, rest his soul, died before he could prove he would never have left United, the Burnley boy).

But he will have done more than his bit for United, regardless.

Well said, end of discussion!

 

[Merman]

That last sentence there tells us that a lot of fighting took place behind closed doors and the Scottish trainer handed out a beating to be remembered.

spot on

 

[ThatOldRedMagic]

I thought we had made up after our love letters to each other in that other thread!!

"closet Gooner or Rentie" - thats as close to a declaration of dislike and war that you could make!! Gloves off!!

OK I retract that post Sam. Even as I posted it I thought 'but we just made up - come on Graham don't be a cnut'

Just in a bad mood this morning.

I'm really sorry.

 

[CnutOfAllCnuts]

Really, Is that it? Is that enough reasoning to be called a cnut?

Yes.

 

[Crustanoid]

It's just a dig at Ronaldo.

Correct

Ronaldo has just made the English press look like they have been lying through their teeth for the past few months. This is damage limitation

 

[Pogue Mahone]

First of all you say: “If there’s one thing I’ve never been — nor do I want to be — it is ungrateful.”

Now, hang on. So Ferguson takes you to the biggest club in the world, converts you from a one-trick pony into the greatest player in the world, then you repay him by announcing you want to quit Old Trafford. Not ungrateful?

Just to focus on the article for a second.

Did he really only repay Fergie by announcing he wanted to leave?

There's me thinking he repaid him with playing a massive part in breaking Chelsea's domestic stranglehold, then scoring 42 goals en route to an amazing double, finishing CL top-scorer, in a season when Fergie finally got his hands on the CL trophy, after almost a decade's wait.

Sean Cuntis.

 

[poisson]

I played football myself for 20 years. Probably played about 1,000 games, and with hundreds of different teammates over the years. Many of who were proper cnuts. Would obviously still cheer when one of them scored.

Does that make me a hypocrite, Poisson?

hmm, lets see.
So you hate someone, call him a cnut. But when he does something that benefits you, i.e score for your team, then you cheer.

Yes, that does make you a hypocrite.

 

[CnutOfAllCnuts]

Duncan Edwards (who, rest his soul, died before he could prove he would never have left United, the Burnley boy).

Dudley

 

[Dyslexic Untied]

To be honest, it sounds pretty exactly like the whining of a little girl who has found out her best friend has another best friend too.

It may represent the feelings of many on here, but it is the view of someone more obsessed with his own hurt feelings than an interest in what is the likely truth of it all. Idolizing the loyalty of former United generations is mere hallusination.

Ronaldo admitted he has been naive in his way of handling it, and that is true. He should have lied about what he wanted when the press asked him, and had the conversation with Ferguson in the club office. His problem is his honesty.

Fergusons mistake, is clinging to his vacation, letting the press work on Ronaldos admission for weeks on end, in stead of having this conversation before or at least straight after the Euros.

The fans' mistake, is wanting to believe players are as bound to the club as we are. "If he don't want to play for United and United ONLY, he can just f**k off," is the talk of kids.

Ronnie is an athlete, and will, like Giggsy and Keano, do what is best for him to achieve his personal dreams. Unless he does a Solskjaer, and changes his favourite club, he'll never be an ultimate fan's hero in the mould of Solskjaer (who could never have been CL and PL winner without his loyalty), Best (who admittedly loved his life style and booze higher than United), or Duncan Edwards (who, rest his soul, died before he could prove he would never have left United, the Burnley boy).

But he will have done more than his bit for United, regardless.

That`s one way of seeing it. The other is that he showed during this summer not only a lack of loyalty, but a lack of gratefulness, a lack of understanding for the supporters (who were singing his name throughout almost every minute of every game). He`s also made a bit of mockery of the fans tbf. Just like it hurt the dippers when Gerrard went to Chelsea and back, this hurts us, and we shouldn`t have to put up with that just because Ronaldo isn`t a Best, Ole, Giggs or Neville. There is middle ground of loyalty here too. He pushed for a transfer by going public and flirting with Real. (unless you believe that he didn`t really push for anything but got tricked by the wicked media into believing all the stuff they wrote) If he wanted out then he could have had a quiet word with the boss at the beginning of the summer, and if the boss said no then he`d have to honour the contract he himself signed.

 

[poisson]

Yes.

well, each to their own then I guess.

 

[Partizan]

What, like Richard Nixon?

There will be no whitewash at the Bernabeu, my fellow Francophiles.

 

[poisson]

That`s one way of seeing it. The other is that he showed during this summer not only a lack of loyalty, but a lack of gratefulness, a lack of understanding for the supporters (who were singing his name throughout almost every minute of every game). He`s also made a bit of mockery of the fans tbf. Just like it hurt the dippers when Gerrard went to Chelsea and back, this hurts us, and we shouldn`t have to put up with that just because Ronaldo isn`t a Best, Ole, Giggs or Neville. There is middle ground of loyalty here too. He pushed for a transfer by going public and flirting with Real. (unless you believe that he didn`t really push for anything but got tricked by the wicked media into believing all the stuff they wrote) If he wanted out then he could have had a quiet word with the boss at the beginning of the summer, and if the boss said no then he`d have to honour the contract he himself signed.

5 years at the club, I think thats loyal
Lack of gratefullness? lack of understanding for the supporters?
I guess the countless goals and trophies he helped us win count for nothing then?

 

[CnutOfAllCnuts]

hmm, lets see.
So you hate someone, call him a cnut. But when he does something that benefits you, i.e score for your team, then you cheer.

Yes, that does make you a hypocrite.

Who is talking about hate? I don't hate Ronaldo. I don't hate people I dislike.

Hate is usually far too strong a word to use when it comes to football.

You obviously don't get that football is a team sport. Teams made up of a number of different individuals, from different backgrounds etc. A team who has one thing that unites the individuals; winning football matches.

The fact that some individuals in a teams don't get on and dislike each other is irrelevant.

When I hire people to work for me, I hire the ones I think will do the best job possible, Whether they are cnuts or not, and am pleased when they do a good job.

 

[RedPhil1957]

That`s one way of seeing it. The other is that he showed during this summer not only a lack of loyalty, but a lack of gratefulness, a lack of understanding for the supporters (who were singing his name throughout almost every minute of every game). He`s also made a bit of mockery of the fans tbf. Just like it hurt the dippers when Gerrard went to Chelsea and back, this hurts us, and we shouldn`t have to put up with that just because Ronaldo isn`t a Best, Ole, Giggs or Neville. There is middle ground of loyalty here too. He pushed for a transfer by going public and flirting with Real. (unless you believe that he didn`t really push for anything but got tricked by the wicked media into believing all the stuff they wrote) If he wanted out then he could have had a quiet word with the boss at the beginning of the summer, and if the boss said no then he`d have to honour the contract he himself signed.

I loved Bestie to bits he was my hero but he shit on the team and club far worse than anything Ronaldo has done!

 

[Dyslexic Untied]

5 years at the club, I think thats loyal
Lack of gratefullness? lack of understanding for the supporters?
I guess the countless goals and trophies he helped us win count for nothing then?

Goals and trophies are one part of it for me, not the only one. In terms of loyalty probably not even the mostr important one.

 

[Dyslexic Untied]

I loved Bestie to bits he was my hero but he shit on the team and club far worse than anything Ronaldo has done!

That`s not really the point of my post though is it. Change him with Paul Scholes if you want.

 

[reddev07]

Custis used to say in the 04-05 season that SAF was past it and should step down for the good of the club and how he knew 'for a fact' that supporters were only behind Fergie because of what he did in the past.
I never trust anything he writes. He is just trying to get in the supporters good books again after all that shit he caused with the Berbatov quotes

 

[ThatOldRedMagic]

To be honest, it sounds pretty exactly like the whining of a little girl who has found out her best friend has another best friend too.

It may represent the feelings of many on here, but it is the view of someone more obsessed with his own hurt feelings than an interest in what is the likely truth of it all. Idolizing the loyalty of former United generations is mere hallusination.

Ronaldo admitted he has been naive in his way of handling it, and that is true. He should have lied about what he wanted when the press asked him, and had the conversation with Ferguson in the club office. His problem is his honesty.

Fergusons mistake, is clinging to his vacation, letting the press work on Ronaldos admission for weeks on end, in stead of having this conversation before or at least straight after the Euros.

The fans' mistake, is wanting to believe players are as bound to the club as we are. "If he don't want to play for United and United ONLY, he can just f**k off," is the talk of kids.

Ronnie is an athlete, and will, like Giggsy and Keano, do what is best for him to achieve his personal dreams. Unless he does a Solskjaer, and changes his favourite club, he'll never be an ultimate fan's hero in the mould of Solskjaer (who could never have been CL and PL winner without his loyalty), Best (who admittedly loved his life style and booze higher than United), or Duncan Edwards (who, rest his soul, died before he could prove he would never have left United, the Burnley boy).

But he will have done more than his bit for United, regardless.

You should post more often sir.

 

[Rednails]

Sorry but this is typical trash from the Sun aimed at its typical chav readers.

 

[poisson]

Who is talking about hate? I don't hate Ronaldo. I don't hate people I dislike.

Hate is usually far too strong a word to use when it comes to football.

You obviously don't get that football is a team sport. Teams made up of a number of different individuals, from different backgrounds etc. A team who has one thing that unites the individuals; winning football matches.

The fact that some individuals in a teams don't get on and dislike each other is irrelevant.

When I hire people to work for me, I hire the ones I think will do the best job possible, Whether they are cnuts or not, and am pleased when they do a good job.

Fair enough.
I guess the best example of what you said above would be to cite the sherigham and cole story. never got along as individuals, yet played as a team for the team.

 

[CnutOfAllCnuts]

I guess the countless goals and trophies he helped us win count for nothing then?

It's irrelevant.

I don't base my opinion on someone based on how good they are at their job.

 

[RedPhil1957]

It's irrelevant.

I don't base my opinion on someone based on how good they are at their job.

So as a supporter how do you base your opinion as you don't know the guy?

 

[ThatOldRedMagic]

Custis used to say in the 04-05 season that SAF was past it and should step down for the good of the club and how he knew 'for a fact' that supporters were only behind Fergie because of what he did in the past.
I never trust anything he writes. He is just trying to get in the supporters good books again after all that shit he caused with the Berbatov quotes

You are a gold-mine of important information reddev; top man!

 

[CnutOfAllCnuts]

So as a supporter how do you base your opinion as you don't know the guy?

How do you know?

No, as opposed to many of the other players, I've never met and talked to Ronaldo.

I base my opinion on him on his behaviour this summer, which I think has been disgraceful. Not as bad as Hitler's or Jack The Ripper's, obviously.

But I think he should and could have handled it much better. And my problem is NOT that he fancied moving to Madrid, but the way he's gone about it.

 

[poisson]

It's irrelevant.

I don't base my opinion on someone based on how good they are at their job.

Ofcourse not, you work with the person, you get to know him/her better. But seeing as you dont work with ronaldo, you donw know him as a person, the only way to base your opinion on him is through his work, which is for manchester united. And he's done brilliantly in that department!

 

[ThatOldRedMagic]

There will be no whitewash at the Bernabeu, my fellow Francophiles.

 

[CnutOfAllCnuts]

Ofcourse not, you work with the person, you get to know him/her better. But seeing as you dont work with ronaldo, you donw know him as a person, the only way to base your opinion on him is through his work, which is for manchester united. And he's done brilliantly in that department!

Shame he didn't follow that brilliance up this summer....

 

[poisson]

How do you know?

No, as opposed to many of the other players, I've never met and talked to Ronaldo.

I base my opinion on him on his behaviour this summer, which I think has been disgraceful. Not as bad as Hitler's or Jack The Ripper's, obviously.

But I think he should and could have handled it much better. And my problem is NOT that he fancied moving to Madrid, but the way he's gone about it.

But that doesnt make him a cnut. Foolish, yes, and idoit, maybe, but not a cnut! FFS someone like Ince, now he's a proper cnut!

 

[spinoza]

Oh I see, well in that case why bother honouring the likes of giggs, scholes, ole. I mean, after all, they are 'incidental'

because they've played for the club for a decade or more, obviously, proving themselves to be great and loyal servants of Manchester United.

I don't agree with people booing Ronaldo on the field any more than I agree with people booing Giggs. But that's got nothing to do with my opinion of Ronaldo or Giggs.

 

[poisson]

Shame he didn't follow that brilliance up this summer....

But he was on holiday! he can do whatever the feck he wants

 

[spinoza]

But that doesnt make him a cnut. Foolish, yes, and idoit, maybe, but not a cnut! FFS someone like Ince, now he's a proper cnut!

Sorry, since 99.5% of people in the world are cnuts, Ronaldo is almost certainly a cnut. Especially when the 1 in 200 person who's not a cnut and is working at Old Trafford is likely to be Ole Solskjaer.

 

[CnutOfAllCnuts]

But that doesnt make him a cnut. Foolish, yes, and idoit, maybe, but not a cnut! FFS someone like Ince, now he's a proper cnut!

Nah, it makes him a cnut.

And yes, Ince is a cnut too.

Add Cnut (Argie left back who played for us), and you have the three biggest cnuts who have played for United over the last 20 years.

 

[Acquire Me]

Sorry but this is typical trash from the Sun aimed at its typical chav readers.

Got to agree, the article is bullshit and a wind up when things start to look better. feck off Custis. I give Ronaldo respect for his change of heart. Only thing who mad me pissed was Ronaldo backing Blatter in his slave comment. But probably the press made the shit up, no one are so stupid they call themself a slave when they earn millions.

 

[KingEric7]

Would you criticise your bird who has given you so much pleasure, if she wanted to leave you?

However, yet, again, the main problem wasn't that he wants to leave United, but the way he went about it.

Hehe. That's a good analogy.

The thing is with this article is that Custis has hit the nail on the head so many times to the extent that it's almost disturbing. It worries me that he has written something very similar to what i would have done.

 

[CnutOfAllCnuts]

But he was on holiday! he can do whatever the feck he wants

If one of my employees went on holiday, and used his holiday to engineer a move to one of our rivals, I would sack him.

Again, an irrelevant comment from you.

 

[RedPhil1957]

How do you know?

No, as opposed to many of the other players, I've never met and talked to Ronaldo.

I base my opinion on him on his behaviour this summer, which I think has been disgraceful. Not as bad as Hitler's or Jack The Ripper's, obviously.

But I think he should and could have handled it much better. And my problem is NOT that he fancied moving to Madrid, but the way he's gone about it.

As far as I can see he thought Madrid wanted him, believed they would pay United mega bucks to get him and thought United would probably accept those mega bucks ........... I am pretty sure most people would have acted the same or a lot worse than Ronaldo in similar circumstances.

 

[CnutOfAllCnuts]

Sorry, since 99.5% of people in the world are cnuts, Ronaldo is almost certainly a cnut. Especially when the 1 in 200 person who's not a cnut and is working at Old Trafford is likely to be Ole Solskjaer.

United is unique, because there is at least two in 200 who are not cnuts; Ole and Giggs.