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Yes i am glad he has finally come out and said that he is staying but i have to say i have lost all respect for the guy. I am very disappointed with his behaviour and attitude this summer. Having said that I have to say that I will continue to appreciate what he will do for us next season on the pitch but i dont see myself buying and Ronaldo mechandise... atleast not in the near future.
 
Brad said:
Fascinating to read the full interview

Ronaldo was always going to have to start crawling back to the fans at some point, that much was obvious. Have to say, its quite an impressive crawl though! Certainly makes those who claimed nothing was going on, and that it was all media hype and hysteria look the fools we all knew they were. He's admitted his role in the saga, he's said he was naive, and he's issued his regret about certain things

My gut feeling is that Ferguson has promised him a move next season if someone matches our valuation, and perhaps dependent on him guiding us to silverware again. I think its pretty clear unless something dramatic happens, Ronaldo has signed his last contract with this club. At some point we have to cash in before his value depreciates as his contract runs to its end
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good post, but my gut feeling is that he'll get an improved contract at OT
 
FlawlessThaw said:
Do we really want to keep a player that we know more or less will leave next season? So much for building for the future etc
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I dont see the logic myself. Still in SAF I trust.

I'm imagining that SAF has said that when he goes, he will allow Ronaldo to go and not before. But when does SAF go? Will he ever leave or will

If we sign Berbatov, along with the improvements expected from Anderson, Tevez, Nani & Hargreaves in thier 2nd seasons, it seems like SAF want to really create history and retain the CL, something which has never been achieved. Maybe thats when he calls it a day .... but then will he be able to resist trying to overtake Liverpool before he drifts into the sunset.

Whatever it is, knowing SAF like we do, he would have found an extra motivational dimension to keep The cnut onside. I wonder what that was. Anyone have any hypotheses?
 
A year is a long time. A lot will depend on the fans over time. That's us.
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Completely correct, and absolutely vital.

Yes, Ronaldo's behaviour this offseason has been annoying, frustrating and has angered a lot of fans who feel betrayed by him.

I am also frustrated at what he's done.

However, he's said he's staying. His statement may have been scripted or a bit of a suck-up or whatever, but let's just be glad that Ronaldo is still a United player, and will be at least for the next season.

It's up to us as the fans, to not make him the villain now. To not boo him when he next plays. We as a fanbase need to support and appreciate him for the great player he is.

What's done is done. He's staying, let's move on.
 
Kiwi Red said:
Completely correct, and absolutely vital.

Yes, Ronaldo's behaviour this offseason has been annoying, frustrating and has angered a lot of fans who feel betrayed by him.

I am also frustrated at what he's done.

However, he's said he's staying. His statement may have been scripted or a bit of a suck-up or whatever, but let's just be glad that Ronaldo is still a United player, and will be at least for the next season.

It's up to us as the fans, to not make him the villain now. To not boo him when he next plays. We as a fanbase need to support and appreciate him for the great player he is.

What's done is done. He's staying, let's move on.
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Agreed
 
Alex said:
I agree with your point about him and SAF being tied together. If it's two more years and it becomes a magnificent 7 for Ronaldo, in today's modern game we can have no complaints, because very few players last at a club that long these, especially foreign ones
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and that would be fine, because in todays game, 3 years into a 5 year contract is the right time for both parties to assess how they are in the relationship.

One thing and one thing alone is what pissed me off so intensly: That less than a full year into a new and exteremly generous 5 year deal, this prick thinks its fine to try and manipulate a move to another club going and doing it all in such a underhand way.

I dont understand fans of United who dont seem to understand this. People on here argue that you cant expect modern players to have lotalty and values. Errr, why cant I expect that? It is shown by many players at many clubs, even foreign players .... I mean look at our own OGS or even lesser players like Van der Goiwe or Quinton Fortune. The likes of Vierra, Henry all waited until their project was complete and it was mutiallu beneficial for both parties to move on.

I'm sorry but I do have certain expectations from United players. That is what my manager SAF has stood for during his entire wonderful tenure. And players who do not share these values are not players I can ever commit too.
 
Brad said:
Fascinating to read the full interview

Ronaldo was always going to have to start crawling back to the fans at some point, that much was obvious. Have to say, its quite an impressive crawl though! Certainly makes those who claimed nothing was going on, and that it was all media hype and hysteria look the fools we all knew they were. He's admitted his role in the saga, he's said he was naive, and he's issued his regret about certain things

My gut feeling is that Ferguson has promised him a move next season if someone matches our valuation, and perhaps dependent on him guiding us to silverware again. I think its pretty clear unless something dramatic happens, Ronaldo has signed his last contract with this club. At some point we have to cash in before his value depreciates as his contract runs to its end
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It has to be next year as far as I'm concerned. He'll be able to do a ''Webster'' in summer 2010 and buy out the rest of his contract, so we'd be compensated for the remaining two years of his contract which would be c£10m-£12m. Although in theory he has four years remaining on his contract the Webster ruling means that in practice it is just two years.

We certainly won't get anywhere near £60m for him next year as Madrid will know that he'll only be one year away from being able to do a ''Webster''. I would think £30m would be a more realistic price next summer, which begs the question does it make financial sense to keep him this season and lose out on £30m? Perhaps if he makes another massive contribution this season that leads to us retaining our titles, the decision will have been justified. Maybe it would then make sense to keep him on for a further year and take a further £20m hit in his value.

There is of course a chance that Ronaldo will change his mind and extend his stay at Old Trafford, but his comments suggest that that scenario is pretty unlikely.

ps. Webster and his lawyers are fecking cnuts.
 
sammsky1 said:
and that would be fine, because in todays game, 3 years into a 5 year contract is the right time for both parties to assess how they are in the relationship.

One thing and one thing alone is what pissed me off so intensly: That less than a full year into a new and exteremly generous 5 year deal, this prick thinks its fine to try and manipulate a move to another club going and doing it all in such a underhand way.

I dont understand fans of United who dont seem to understand this. People on here argue that you cant expect modern players to have lotalty and values. Errr, why cant I expect that? It is shown by many players at many clubs, even foreign players .... I mean look at our own OGS or even lesser players like Van der Goiwe or Quinton Fortune. The likes of Vierra, Henry all waited until their project was complete and it was mutiallu beneficial for both parties to move on.

I'm sorry but I do have certain expectations from United players. That is what my manager SAF has stood for during his entire wonderful tenure. And players who do not share these values are not players I can ever commit too.
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WEBSTER RULING!!!

It's not the right time for the club, when the player has the option to simply buy out the remaining two years of his contract.
 
I've thought since the start of all this saga that this was a silly time to move and far far more logical was in not one years time but two. With two years to go on a contract, having served the majority of the signed contract, both club and player are in a more straightforward bargaining position where the club will offer a major new contract and the player can either sign for a new contract or will be sold before he reaches the last stretch and loses sale value. Having given that extra service moving on should likely be more amicable, and at 25 Ronaldo should not only be in his prime, but has enough time yet to develop that he will lose no sale value due to age.

This whole saga has told me Ronaldo is a bit of an idiot in some ways, which means he may well push and get what he wants next season and reap its rewards in a (slightly) lesser team not built around his talents, in a league not as ideally suited to a player of his attributes, where he plays well but fails for the rest of his career to find the same form he found with us, and where the team falls behind the English teams financially, and fails to win another European competition.

EDIT: Add that I notice mention of the webster ruling, which may obviously affect the validity of the above. I wonder at the robustness of that ruling to serious challence and whether it has been applied as yet at the top level but if applicable would be of major impact on the scenario
 
Can we close the thread now, or is the magic number 20k replies ?
 
about time we got a genuine and truthful article/interview on this whole saga. Like I thought it was the case, Ronaldo genuinely believed that the tabloid stories about Madrid's mega offer was true which of course wasn't as they never made a single formal offer, just printing out bullshit stories about it. This was why he was keeping quiet and staying ambiguous, but good to see he takes responsibility for his part in the saga, a very mature way of dealing with this. clearly there was a lot of bullshit printed about him which he confirms including the Blatter/slave remarks and their interpretations. It was never a secret that he dreamed of playing in Spain, but it's good to hear that he never wanted to leave against the Club's will. All in all, a very mature and fascinating interview which should put this whole saga to bed.
 
loki said:
I've thought since the start of all this saga that this was a silly time to move and far far more logical was in not one years time but two. With two years to go on a contract, having served the majority of the signed contract, both club and player are in a more straightforward bargaining position where the club will offer a major new contract and the player can either sign for a new contract or will be sold before he reaches the last stretch and loses sale value. Having given that extra service moving on should likely be more amicable, and at 25 Ronaldo should not only be in his prime, but has enough time yet to develop that he will lose no sale value due to age.

This whole saga has told me Ronaldo is a bit of an idiot in some ways, which means he may well push and get what he wants next season and reap its rewards in a (slightly) lesser team not built around his talents, in a league not as ideally suited to a player of his attributes, where he plays well but fails for the rest of his career to find the same form he found with us, and where the team falls behind the English teams financially, and fails to win another European competition.

EDIT: Add that I notice mention of the webster ruling, which may obviously affect the validity of the above. I wonder at the robustness of that ruling to serious challence and whether it has been applied as yet at the top level but if applicable would be of major impact on the scenario
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Gutierrez's move to Newcastle is one example and there are several other examples across Europe, including several players in Germany.
 
Not enough for me.

If I`m ever going to feel the same way about him as I do about many of our players he`ll have to keep playing for us for years to come. Reading that interview I get a strong feeling he`ll be here a year tops. What he says today doesn`t really matter after all he has shown this summer, that interview might very well be orchestrated with the club, his agent and media people.
 
It was never going to happen. Nobody has the money, especially Calderon, and Ronaldo won't go on the cheap. And it won't happen next year, either, unless somebody comes up with sufficient cash to interest us and him. Good chance he'll have to see his contract out, get used to it. This aint 'Big Brother', you know, you can't vote him out. I wanted him sold on day one to be replaced with the likes of Messi and Huntelaar, but the second Calderon and the ABU press started to try and throw their weight around, NO WAY!
 
reddevilcanada said:
about time we got a genuine and truthful article/interview on this whole saga. Like I thought it was the case, Ronaldo genuinely believed that the tabloid stories about Madrid's mega offer was true which of course wasn't as they never made a single formal offer, just printing out bullshit stories about it. This was why he was keeping quiet and staying ambiguous, but good to see he takes responsibility for his part in the saga, a very mature way of dealing with this. clearly there was a lot of bullshit printed about him which he confirms including the Blatter/slave remarks and their interpretations. It was never a secret that he dreamed of playing in Spain, but it's good to hear that he never wanted to leave against the Club's will. All in all, a very mature and fascinating interview which should put this whole saga to bed.
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Totally agree with this. I actually felt that it as a pretty honest interview. He never backtracked on anything he said or did, nor is he hiding his future intentions. This also gives me little reason to doubt his statement that he's still as committed to the club's cause as ever before.
 
Fergie's comment "The fans have to understand it has been a very difficult time for him. He has been offered all this money - when his dad has died a young man and he is looking after his mother, his sister and his brother".

Its obvious what he's doing here, Ronaldo has seen the comments on the caf & expressed concern about fans reaction - Fergie has thrown an arm around him & said I'll protect you, I'll say it was the money thats attracted you & not the club.

I find it hard to believe that Fergie would try to suggest that Ronaldo is struggling to support 3 family members, I know people who earn less than £200 a week who have to support a family of the same size.
 
''Why lie? I'm not going to be a hypocrite and say the opposite of what I think, like some others do. I said exactly what I thought: I have a dream of playing at Real and I thought it was time to move on. People can't be upset about me fulfilling a childhood dream.''
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To be fair to the lad, he has always said that he wants to play for Real at some time, it was just his timing that was shite.
 
Kiwi Red said:
Completely correct, and absolutely vital.

Yes, Ronaldo's behaviour this offseason has been annoying, frustrating and has angered a lot of fans who feel betrayed by him.

I am also frustrated at what he's done.

However, he's said he's staying. His statement may have been scripted or a bit of a suck-up or whatever, but let's just be glad that Ronaldo is still a United player, and will be at least for the next season.

It's up to us as the fans, to not make him the villain now. To not boo him when he next plays. We as a fanbase need to support and appreciate him for the great player he is.

What's done is done. He's staying, let's move on.
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I would agree. I don't necessarily like the way he's gone about things and of course if given the choice, he'd be off to Madrid in a heartbeat but the point remains he's still our player. As long as he's with us I'll support him, I may not look at him in the same way or I may have lost some respect for him but I respect the decisions Sir Alex has made and he's decided to have Cristiano stay with us, at least for one more season it seems. I may not sing Viva Ronaldo with the same passion as I did last season but I'll still support the lad while he wears our shirt.
 
Exactly right Eric is a god. An excellent interview from and excellent young man.

I hope at least 50% of you who have embarrassed yourself throughout this ordeal feel as stupid as you look....or will that only come after he's scored his 1st goal?? :rolleyes:
 
Ruben said:
Not enough for me.

If I`m ever going to feel the same way about him as I do about many of our players he`ll have to keep playing for us for years to come. Reading that interview I get a strong feeling he`ll be here a year tops. What he says today doesn`t really matter after all he has shown this summer, that interview might very well be orchestrated with the club, his agent and media people.
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I just hope ronaldo realises people like you represent the ignorant minority ;)
 
What a cnut.

He plays on the left
He plays on the right
That boy Ronaldo
He is just full of shite
 
ch7 said:
It's quite sad when you read how he spent thousands of pounds trying to help his father beat alcoholism and his brother with drug addiction. All this during his teenage years. He's definitely his family's meal ticket and I don't think he has received the greatest advice from them.
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This is key to all his actions I feel certain.

rotherham_red said:
Boo fecking hoo. I wish my younger brother could open up a fashion boutique solely for me to run, or employ me to be nothing but his lackey and regular gang-banger...

His family are another bunch of shameless parasites. Still remember seeing (not reading, or hearing about, but SEEING) his brother and sister getting interviewed in a club during Euro2008 stating how much they couldnt wait for him to go to Madrid, and how they talked down his time at United. And I havent even started on his mother yet! Remember the Marca spread on her in January?

The sooner him and his family piss off out of Old Trafford and we start to find a way to win without him, the better...
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Well, I know you moderated this in a later post, but really; SAF shows a little understanding - we should surely follow his line.


Kaka83 said:
Family can sometimes be a problem. After all this I finally understand where Ronnie's coming from. Remember his interview after the CL final where he said 'I make no promises to the fans...to my mum...nobody'?

I've seen what leeches in family can do from personal experience, and to be honest it can come from anybody, from your parents to your siblings to your cousins. And usually you go along because thats family and in Ronnie's situation his father passed away early leaving him the sole breadwinner thus more or less head of the family. With that comes responsibility and your own happiness becomes secondary to their needs (most of the time).

They probably pressured him into going, because it so obviously doesn't make sense why he would leave the European Champions, especially when we are just getting started. And Ronnie being a family man, obliged. There is no denying Madrid started it with his mother earlier on in the year and offered him a salary that would have been stupid to refuse.

He's still an idiot for going about it the way he did but many on here, including myself, have been harsh. I think in his situation, he'd want to please his family first rather than the club. I thought this was all about him, but when family is involved it changes the picture completely. His family don't really appear to have his best interest at heart career wise. I guess all they see is the £££, and how much money he can make.

I'm sure if Ronnie was left to his own devices, he'd choose to stay at least until Fergie hangs it up. But, now he probably feels he's let down his family and would be looking to make amends next summer, unfortunately. If anyone deserves blame its the family.

I'm sure he'll give his all this season because if he REALLY hated it here, he wouldn't be here by now.

I guess we have no choice but to enjoy him
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Top post.

VoetbalWizard said:
pretty good answers. i am glad he came out and said this instead of papering the cracks with lies. not surprised about this, i think everyone in their heart of hearts knew that this is the situation but didn't want to accept that ronnie had a wish to play for madrid.

maybe i am being soft on the lad because i am in a similar situation at work, alibeit at a much smaller scale, but it doesn't affect my professionalism because when i do my work i want to be top notch at it.

if anything, ronnie is a superb professional and once he is in training and on the pitch, he'll be committed 100% to winning because he knows that the more united win, the more he wins personally and that is the fuel for his fire.

i don't care about his motives, he has goals just like we all do. the end result is that he is at united and he'll give it his all. i don't think he'll move next year either. summer of 2010. that'll be the right time i think.
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As is this.

Family. Hidden agendas. Unclear motives. This is exactly what a few of us have been saying all along. The cnut callers will, I need scarcely add, find ways of justifying their self-obsessed and conceited comments. It is sufficient for me, however, to know that our great leader Sir Alex sees it as I and others do.

Viva Ronaldo? You bet!
 
bbest said:
The full interview, for those who are interested in.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/aug/07/manchesterunited.ronaldo1
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Interesting interview. I get the feeling Fergie had a chat with him about how to approach the fans and the whole saga, just so he wont get battered upon return to Old Trafford. A lot of sucking up in that interview..

And to be fair, he did it right in the interview, a couple of goals into the season and the majority will forget this whole thing ever happened.. Football fans have the shortest memory span.
 
MUFCgal said:
I would agree. I don't necessarily like the way he's gone about things and of course if given the choice, he'd be off to Madrid in a heartbeat but the point remains he's still our player. As long as he's with us I'll support him, I may not look at him in the same way or I may have lost some respect for him but I respect the decisions Sir Alex has made and he's decided to have Cristiano stay with us, at least for one more season it seems. I may not sing Viva Ronaldo with the same passion as I did last season but I'll still support the lad while he wears our shirt.
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That's fair comment. However I'll be very surprised if things are just the same whne he returns to action, after what's happened this summer and also with the knowledge that he'll most likely be off as soon as he can. He's a professional yes, but I doubt his heart will be entirely in it. Some fans will let their feelings be known and it will be interesting to know what reaction he gets from his colleagues as well. All that surely must have an effect on him. I don't think there's been any precedent for this with a top player at United. All in all I doubt he'll be quite the same player he was last season. Considering his immense conribution last season, any significant diminution in performance this season could be telling - especially if we don't secure the services of a quality front man.
 
77 said:
I reckon Fergie's made a deal with him for him to play one more year and then we'll let him go.
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But see below

MANU1960 said:
do u remember the David Frost interview, in which SAF stated that, "Ronaldo will have to make a decision in 2 or 3 years"

quite frankly, after reading the Ronaldo interview, I feel that his career at OT is tied to SAF's tenure.

I reckon that, this was his 1 chance to get out, it didn't happen.
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'He has been one of the most important people in my playing career. Not only because of what I've learnt and continue to learn from him in sporting terms but also in human ones as well. I love the passion he has for football. If it were humanly possible I would like to have him always by my side.'

He goes when SAF goes. 2 more seasons
 
WeWonItTwoTimes said:
It has to be next year as far as I'm concerned. He'll be able to do a ''Webster'' in summer 2010 and buy out the rest of his contract, so we'd be compensated for the remaining two years of his contract which would be c£10m-£12m. Although in theory he has four years remaining on his contract the Webster ruling means that in practice it is just two years.

We certainly won't get anywhere near £60m for him next year as Madrid will know that he'll only be one year away from being able to do a ''Webster''. I would think £30m would be a more realistic price next summer, which begs the question does it make financial sense to keep him this season and lose out on £30m? Perhaps if he makes another massive contribution this season that leads to us retaining our titles, the decision will have been justified. Maybe it would then make sense to keep him on for a further year and take a further £20m hit in his value.

There is of course a chance that Ronaldo will change his mind and extend his stay at Old Trafford, but his comments suggest that that scenario is pretty unlikely.

ps. Webster and his lawyers are fecking cnuts.
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If we are going to sell him next season for 30 million AND if barca are also interested then i say sell him to barca for 25 million.
 
Read that Guardian interview, it is just tripe. Apparenttly he has been taking lessons off Alastair Campbell on how to hit around the bush.

Disgraceful!, talking about how much he "appreciates and remains grateful" to United and then take an entire summer and the gloss off what was a wonderful season just for the whole world to look at him.

He lost my heart and "affections (bloody gayer)", ages and they ain't gonna come back.

So yeah, it suits you right you mercenary.

Milk us,milk you
 
lets face it, he still want to join Real as he said it is his childhood dreams, would be nice if we can keep him for another 2 years.
 
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