ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

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Jopub said:
If I may interject

Clear as day Fergsun has simply said

Even if we were offered a zillion your fking staying son end of

Get used to the fact that this club is / has always been run how I want in the way I want . You'll go alright but when I say.

Now I'm having one more season out of you wether you sit in the stands, in the reserves or at home 'injured' in Portugal

If you are gonna commit yourself to actually playing some football for us for one more season and if you want the fans to show you some utterly undeserved support and a little respect you better say this which has been nicely prepared for you

At the end of the year you can feck off when I am happy to let you go and you have helped win us another title

Untill then get back to Manchester, change your fecking nappy tell everybody you love the club the fans and me and you'll get your poxy move to those Spanish cvnts
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Thats probably as close as it gets - Thats Fergsun all over - make it personal and hit him fking hard :smirk:


On a personal note I would not want him anywhere near my club after this shit exactly the same as Vieira and Henry
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Adebayor?
 
One of the Marca reader comments

"Fabregas, Kaka and now Ronaldo. Calderon always says he wants these big name players but never delivers"
 
reddev07 said:
One of the Marca reader comments

"Fabregas, Kaka and now Ronaldo. Calderon always says he wants these big name players but never delivers"
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Are all Real Madrid fans transfer muppets?

We should acquire some of them, we haven't got enough on the Caf.
 
Jopub said:
If I may interject

Clear as day Fergsun has simply said

Even if we were offered a zillion your fking staying son end of

Get used to the fact that this club is / has always been run how I want in the way I want . You'll go alright but when I say.

Now I'm having one more season out of you wether you sit in the stands, in the reserves or at home 'injured' in Portugal

If you are gonna commit yourself to actually playing some football for us for one more season and if you want the fans to show you some utterly undeserved support and a little respect you better say this which has been nicely prepared for you

At the end of the year you can feck off when I am happy to let you go and you have helped win us another title

Untill then get back to Manchester, change your fecking nappy tell everybody you love the club the fans and me and you'll get your poxy move to those Spanish cvnts
________________

Thats probably as close as it gets - Thats Fergsun all over - make it personal and hit him fking hard :smirk:


On a personal note I would not want him anywhere near my club after this shit exactly the same as Vieira and Henry
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:lol:
 
GusHiddink said:
I just hope ronaldo realises people like you represent the ignorant minority ;)
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Why would that be then?

Are you implying that I don`t understand his boyhood dream of playing for Madrid? Cause I really do. The thing is though, that he has treated the club, the manager and all the fans with a lack of respect throughout the summer. If he wanted out (which I can see why he would) then he should have kept his mouth shut, had a word with the boss and then acted on whatever the boss said. Instead he has given little hints here and there all through the summer, fueling the Spanish papers and Madrid themselves. He handled the whole thing in a absolute amateurish manner, and showed himself as quite the cnut by doing it. I knew there would be an interview like this when he was told to stay, everyone knew that. Well orchestrated with a couple of the right sounds so we can roll over and forgive the whole thing, I`m not going to do that, and I know a lot of others that won`t either.
I`m not naive, and I do know that players today are not like Neville, Ole, Scholes and Giggs, but for me personally I`d rather have a player here with less talent who only wanted to play for us, rather than having the worlds nr 1 who clearly still wants away. It will be quiet now, for a one short season, next summer he`ll go away on holiday and yet again we`ll see his little quotes about how he really just wants to play for Madrid. I`m sure of that.
I`ll cheer the team on, and will not boo anyone playing in our shirt, but that`s it for me. I repeat what I said in the first post, for me to like a player it takes more than talent, it takes a bit of personality and commitment as well. Rio fecked up earlier, but has proved by on and off pitch behaviour that he loves the club and wants to stay, he was forgiven by me easily for that. If Ronaldo does the same, I`ll love him. Until then though, he has something to prove to the fans not the other way around... IMO.

And you still haven`t cut out the arrogant self-rightous way of conducting yourself around here, it`s getting a wee bit annoying.
 
CnutOfAllCnuts said:
Adebayor?
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Yeah I forgot about him

Although the other two had this self same long drawn out bollocks where they could have simply put an end to it at any given point one way or another but chose to put everybody through the fking ringer especially Vieira - total cvnt - did for three seasons in a row
 
Jopub said:
If I may interject

Clear as day Fergsun has simply said

Even if we were offered a zillion your fking staying son end of

Get used to the fact that this club is / has always been run how I want in the way I want . You'll go alright but when I say.

Now I'm having one more season out of you wether you sit in the stands, in the reserves or at home 'injured' in Portugal

If you are gonna commit yourself to actually playing some football for us for one more season and if you want the fans to show you some utterly undeserved support and a little respect you better say this which has been nicely prepared for you

At the end of the year you can feck off when I am happy to let you go and you have helped win us another title

Untill then get back to Manchester, change your fecking nappy tell everybody you love the club the fans and me and you'll get your poxy move to those Spanish cvnts
________________

Thats probably as close as it gets - Thats Fergsun all over - make it personal and hit him fking hard :smirk:


On a personal note I would not want him anywhere near my club after this shit exactly the same as Vieira and Henry
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the best Arse poster here by a country mile
 
My thoughts on the interview are that he said pretty much everything I wanted him to say. Especially the clarification around the whole "slave" thing. Obviously, the media have played their part in winding us fans up, by shit-stirring all summer, but I'm pleased that Ronaldo admits to his own part in the whole saga. He wanted a move and he played his part in trying to make the move happen. This is diisappointing but I can certainly understand his motives.

I have gone through a period of feeling very pissed off at the bloke but (even at my most annoyed) I could still see that his behaviour wasn't any different to a number of "non-cnuts" in our current side, who had fought for a move away from their previous clubs (e.g. Hargreaves, Carrick, Rooney, Saha). Of course, logic doesn't always apply to emotional situations and I genunely believed he was acting like a cnut and I reckon I will find it very, very hard to sing his name this season.

BUT, this interview was what I've wanted to hear from him all summer and I'm prepared to give him a clean slate for the season ahead.

Oh and by the way, I think people should stop using this as an opportunity for point-scoring. The "it's entirely fabricated by the media" brigade don't come of this any better than the "Ronaldo is a cnut" brigade, so how's about we all move on?
 
And Marca report 'plan B';

'PLAN A' has been felled and now another way forward is looked at;

Now that 'Plan A' has failed, Real Madrid has 25 days to revive Plan B. Cauldron has to revive the negotiations with the players that had remained in the ink bottle. This is, to forget the Cristian Ronaldo route and to return to Villa, Diego, Kakà, Huntelaar and Benzema to reinforce the staff of Bernd Schuster.

The German coach already has Van der Vaart, but needs more. Contradicting the words of his president, in which he said that the Dutchman "is the first acquisition of the season and surely the only one", Schuster requires reinforcements that contribute the necessary security to confront the competitions with confidence.

Schuster had been promised Van der Vaart and Cristiano to complete the team, but the route of the Portuguese has closed and he has pressed the panic button. The bad Ferguson has left Cauldron uncomposed and without 'novia' (Spanish for girlfriend - an idiom I imagine. But every Plan A has to have a Plan B, just in case. Madrid had it, had abandoned it and now has to return to it.

The name that sounds most forceful is that of the international Spaniard David Villa. The Valencia striker already flirted with Madrid last season, but his coming to the 'white wardrobe' (:lol:) has been seen to be wrapped in arduous polemics concerning Raúl, for the number 7 (shirt) and to the leadership in the front.

Kakà is another of the difficult possibilities, but for different reasons. The arrival of Ronaldinho to the club 'rossonero' favored the opening of the doors for his countryman. Madrid, that already had tried to tempt the Brazilian — the most spoken about of the electoral promises of Cauldron—, asked again for him of Galliani. Although they will not remove him easily, the Milan club has declared that the will of the player will predominate .

Other names that have sounded with force are those of Diego, the star of Werder Bremen, Huntelaar, who would be able to add one more Dutch to the payroll of the team, and Benzema, the Olympique forward. He did not have too much fortune in the Euro cup, but is one of the most expensive strikers on the market.
 
"Why lie? I'm not going to be a hypocrite and say the opposite of what I think, like some others do"

Adebayor :)

'I never wanted to leave'

Of course not Adebayor, thats why you spent all summer trying to leave :lol::rolleyes:
 
He's still a pretty young guy, and if, as he saw them, the 'biggest club in the world' were prepared to offer £70m for his services, and pay him £150,000 a week, I'm not even slightly surprised that he was tempted to go. He's been reeled in by the Real Madrid media circus, and hollow promises that are always made by Marca and the Madrid staff.

Sir Alex clearly says that once he went over and had a chat about it, Ronaldo settled his head and decided that he really was going to stay at United. Read into that what you want, but I think for once they are pretty much telling the truth. He just got blown away with it all, and it was only when Ferguson brought him back down to earth that he sorted everything out in his mind.

The important thing is that he pulls his weight on the pitch next season, and if the fans accept that he made a mistake, I reckon everything will go well.
 
snootyjim said:
He's still a pretty young guy, and if, as he saw them, the 'biggest club in the world' were prepared to offer £70m for his services, and pay him £150,000 a week, I'm not even slightly surprised that he was tempted to go. He's been reeled in by the Real Madrid media circus, and hollow promises that are always made by Marca and the Madrid staff.

Sir Alex clearly says that once he went over and had a chat about it, Ronaldo settled his head and decided that he really was going to stay at United. Read into that what you want, but I think for once they are pretty much telling the truth. He just got blown away with it all, and it was only when Ferguson brought him back down to earth that he sorted everything out in his mind.

The important thing is that he pulls his weight on the pitch next season, and if the fans accept that he made a mistake, I reckon everything will go well.
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It`s not the first time he`s made that mistake though. And he is 23 years of age now, a mature 23 year old going by what SAF has said before. IMO he didn`t get reeled off by the media circus simply because he was the one that started it. We all have different opinions on this, and I`m not going to say that yours is wrong, but I don`t think things went down the way you described it.
 
Ruben said:
It`s not the first time he`s made that mistake though. And he is 23 years of age now, a mature 23 year old going by what SAF has said before. IMO he didn`t get reeled off by the media circus simply because he was the one that started it. We all have different opinions on this, and I`m not going to say that yours is wrong, but I don`t think things went down the way you described it.
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He was obviously keen on joining Real Madrid. And yes, this wasn't anything to do with the media.

Is that what's pissing you off?
 
Last relevant 'Marca' article today;

AFTER KNOWING THE CONTINUITY OF Cristiano RONALDO IN THE TEAM

Manchester will do no acquisition The Manchester United coach Alex Ferguson, recognized that although the club continues "seeking" possible acquisitions in the summer market, its team would be able not to sign before the start of the season, by considering that the staff has already a good combination of "youth and experience".

"Well we would be able to begin the season 2008-2009 with the same staff that we had last year and, after all, we did not do so badly", commented the Scot. Ferguson admitted that United had not invested in the "super acquisition" that it seems everyone was expecting".

The coach of the 'red devils' recognized that in Manchester he would continue "seeking" possible new acquisitions. "It is not easy, but the truth is that neither are we desperate", observed 'Fergie'. The Scot considers that his squad has now "a good balance of youth and experience" thanks to investing in the transfer market for the club during the past year.

Nevertheless, the events that have occured in the last hours have given a turn to the situation. The continuity of Cristiano Ronaldo in the English team paralyzes therefore any negotiation that could have open. That it is why the Scottish technician is fixed and he decides to continue with the same block of players that he had last season.
 
Good stuff by Ronnie in the interview, never knew his ankle was in that bad a state.

Fergie delivers a KO punch to Calderon.

Can't wait to see Ronaldo back for us
 
sammsky1 said:
One thing and one thing alone is what pissed me off so intensly: That less than a full year into a new and exteremly generous 5 year deal, this prick thinks its fine to try and manipulate a move to another club going and doing it all in such a underhand way.

I dont understand fans of United who dont seem to understand this. People on here argue that you cant expect modern players to have lotalty and values. Errr, why cant I expect that? It is shown by many players at many clubs, even foreign players .... I mean look at our own OGS or even lesser players like Van der Goiwe or Quinton Fortune. The likes of Vierra, Henry all waited until their project was complete and it was mutiallu beneficial for both parties to move on.

I'm sorry but I do have certain expectations from United players. That is what my manager SAF has stood for during his entire wonderful tenure. And players who do not share these values are not players I can ever commit too.
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Cough... Hargreaves... cough.

Having said that, Owen was rather more blatant about it - I'm not quite sure why publically indicating that you'd be happy to play for either club if they agree a deal (CR) is worse than just continually going on about wanting to move (OH).
 
Ruben said:
Are you implying that I don`t understand his boyhood dream of playing for Madrid? Cause I really do. The thing is though, that he has treated the club, the manager and all the fans with a lack of respect throughout the summer. If he wanted out (which I can see why he would) then he should have kept his mouth shut, had a word with the boss and then acted on whatever the boss said. Instead he has given little hints here and there all through the summer, fueling the Spanish papers and Madrid themselves. He handled the whole thing in a absolute amateurish manner, and showed himself as quite the cnut by doing it. I knew there would be an interview like this when he was told to stay, everyone knew that. Well orchestrated with a couple of the right sounds so we can roll over and forgive the whole thing, I`m not going to do that, and I know a lot of others that won`t either.
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We have no idea what was said/implied/inferred between United and Ron or United and Mendes before this kicked off. Did somebody, for istance, tell Mendes that the "club can't deal, the fans would never stand for it" and the Ron/RM/press campaign kicked off in the certain knowledge that the fans would react badly to the flirting. Did Ron tell SAF that he wanted out and get ignored, because at the time he said it Ron still had a big, silly post-CL grin on his face.

We don't know the whole story. United are too secretive. Madrid blab so much that you're trying to find the picture in a fog of dross. Ron says he handled it wrong and I don't think anyone will disagree with him.
 
Ruben said:
Not enough for me.

If I`m ever going to feel the same way about him as I do about many of our players he`ll have to keep playing for us for years to come. Reading that interview I get a strong feeling he`ll be here a year tops. What he says today doesn`t really matter after all he has shown this summer, that interview might very well be orchestrated with the club, his agent and media people.
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As, indeed, most of what we've seen this summer have been orchestrated by the media including the Spanish press and RM to create the hysteria, stoke the transfer story (increasing page count), and to increase motivation for a move.

Throughout all that Ronaldo didn't insist on a move, he didn't ask for a transfer, he didn't say he was unhappy at Utd - instead he indicated he'd be happy to play for RM if the clubs agreed a fee (and it seems he thought RM were making an offer) and that he'd like to play for them sometime.

BIG f*cking DEAL - I don't see where all the hatred/betrayal comes from.
 
jojojo said:
We have no idea what was said/implied/inferred between United and Ron or United and Mendes before this kicked off. Did somebody, for istance, tell Mendes that the "club can't deal, the fans would never stand for it" and the Ron/RM/press campaign kicked off in the certain knowledge that the fans would react badly to the flirting. Did Ron tell SAF that he wanted out and get ignored, because at the time he said it Ron still had a big, silly post-CL grin on his face.

We don't know the whole story. United are too secretive. Madrid blab so much that you're trying to find the picture in a fog of dross. Ron says he handled it wrong and I don't think anyone will disagree with him.
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Correct. And to dismiss the reports of the 'Publico' interview in the Guardian and The Independent as mere pre-packaged sound-bites is to adopt a stance of believing the gutter press (upon who's diatribes all the cnut-calling was based on), and then seeking to dismiss more serious journalism in an attempt to justify this initial belief. (And we'r talking about 'The Sun' and 'Marca' here!)

A little odd, as logic goes?
 
Feedingseagulls said:
As, indeed, most of what we've seen this summer have been orchestrated by the media including the Spanish press and RM to create the hysteria, stoke the transfer story (increasing page count), and to increase motivation for a move.

Throughout all that Ronaldo didn't insist on a move, he didn't ask for a transfer, he didn't say he was unhappy at Utd - instead he indicated he'd be happy to play for RM if the clubs agreed a fee (and it seems he thought RM were making an offer) and that he'd like to play for them sometime.

BIG f*cking DEAL - I don't see where all the hatred/betrayal comes from.
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Really? I agree with pretty much everything you say there but I can certainly see why people feel betrayed.

If any player ever comes out and says he would like a move, the fans of his current club are bound to feel betrayed and hurt. At least, if they don't, they are very cold fish indeed.
 
Eto'odinho said:
Read that Guardian interview, it is just tripe. Apparenttly he has been taking lessons off Alastair Campbell on how to hit around the bush.

Disgraceful!, talking about how much he "appreciates and remains grateful" to United and then take an entire summer and the gloss off what was a wonderful season just for the whole world to look at him.

He lost my heart and "affections (bloody gayer)", ages and they ain't gonna come back.

So yeah, it suits you right you mercenary.

Milk us,milk you
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Whereas the shitaganda machine which gave you the version of the saga you prefer to believe (via un-named sources, leaked communications etc.) provided the gospel truth did it?
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Really? I agree with pretty much everything you say there but I can certainly see why people feel betrayed.

If any player ever comes out and says he would like a move, the fans of his current club are bound to feel betrayed and hurt. At least, if they don't, they are very cold fish indeed.
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Speaking of fish, are you planning a trip?
 
wolfshead said:
fergie won his battle with madrid
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He sure did. He's also potentially cost the club £30m+ by keeping a player who doesn't want to be at the club, and who many fans no longer want, for another nine months (two of which he'll be injured for) in the process.
 
You guys are like a bunch of women.. You over analyze everything, think about it a little, and then what ever you come up with you'll act on as fact
 
Judge Red said:
He sure did. He's also potentially cost the club £30m+ by keeping a player who doesn't want to be at the club, and who many fans no longer want, for another nine months (two of which he'll be injured for) in the process.
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Yeah, he's such a fool. If only he had you to advise him.

But then I'm no judge..
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Really? I agree with pretty much everything you say there but I can certainly see why people feel betrayed.

If any player ever comes out and says he would like a move, the fans of his current club are bound to feel betrayed and hurt. At least, if they don't, they are very cold fish indeed.
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Hurt and upset - yes. I've defended him throughout this entire struggle but that doesn't mean I'm not upset with him. He would prefer to be playing somewhere else other than my beloved red devils. Anyone who isn't a bit upset with him is very hard to move.

But anyone feeling betrayed has only themselves to blame. Ronaldo never lied to us (except for things in the heat of the moment like 'I stay'). Right from day 1 he has said he wants to play in Spain one day. So feeling betrayed about it would be like feeling betrayed if Tevez wants to move back to Argentina in four years. He's always said he'd like to do it, so why the surprise when he feels it's time? You do your best to postpone it and hope that in the meantime he loses that dream, but when it comes right down to it then the player has been honest and upfront about what he wants. It would be more of a betrayal if they just suddenly out of nowhere wanted a transfer (Ruud springs to mind).
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Really? I agree with pretty much everything you say there but I can certainly see why people feel betrayed.

If any player ever comes out and says he would like a move, the fans of his current club are bound to feel betrayed and hurt. At least, if they don't, they are very cold fish indeed.
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Except, apart from an article in Terra of which everyone was suspicious, CR never said he wanted to play for Madrid next season - he said he'd like to play for them sometime - he said that his future would be decided by agreement or not between the clubs, not by his desire. Any footballer knows that his status is partly in the hands of his club and their decisions.

It's clear, I think, that he expected RM to make a big, big offer to Utd and if we agreed to sell he'd have been happy - but it was always our decision whether to allow him to achieve his dream now or not.

I think I'm a bit disappointed rather than 'betrayed' - and I certainly don't feel any 'hatred' (though that seems to be mostly shown by people who didn't like him much before either.)

In the recent interview he indicates that his interest in moving this year existed 'for a time' during the summer - wonder when it started and finished? I think he'd certainly become ambivalent by the time of the Ballague interview when he talked about being forgiven after scoring goals - he'd begun to suspect that RM weren't going to make that 'almost unrefusable offer' he'd been told about.
 
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