Can anyone see what's wrong with this picture?
they misspelled "THEATER" ?
ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation
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they misspelled "THEATER" ?
They misspelled "DREEMS"
He has a lot of making up to do,overshadowed what should have been a summer of great reflection on last season
Can anyone see what's wrong with this picture?
No PIG
Stepping up and taking the blame is a big start. How many on here thought he would?
I was wondering how you would end itHehehe....the end.
...and it did'nt quite make it to 20,000
That's it, we didn't come this far to lose, break out the boobies for the next few hundred posts then let it die, we can hit 20k!
SAF = God
The fans are now in control of the situation, strange as it may seem after being in the wilderness for 3 months.
How we treat Ronnie after all this could determine whether he stays longer than the year.
A year of football is a looooong time. Who knows what curveball awaits any of us in the coming 9 months. For sure by next May this last three months will seem like another era.
How we treat Ronnie after all this could determine whether he stays longer than the year.
A year of football is a looooong time. Who knows what curveball awaits any of us in the coming 9 months. For sure by next May this last three months will seem like another era.
The full interview, for those who are interested in.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/aug/07/manchesterunited.ronaldo1
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/aug/07/manchesterunited.ronaldo1
Yes, a year is a long time in football. Many things can happen. Maybe another double/treble will change his mind. Maybe another football hero is on the horizon. But the fans will always be here.
O.K., B.R., the Berba meter is not working, we need you over there. Thank you.
O.K., B.R., the Berba meter is not working, we need you over there. Thank you.
pretty good answers. i am glad he came out and said this instead of papering the cracks with lies. not surprised about this, i think everyone in their heart of hearts knew that this is the situation but didn't want to accept that ronnie had a wish to play for madrid.
maybe i am being soft on the lad because i am in a similar situation at work, alibeit at a much smaller scale, but it doesn't affect my professionalism because when i do my work i want to be top notch at it.
if anything, ronnie is a superb professional and once he is in training and on the pitch, he'll be committed 100% to winning because he knows that the more united win, the more he wins personally and that is the fuel for his fire.
i don't care about his motives, he has goals just like we all do. the end result is that he is at united and he'll give it his all. i don't think he'll move next year either. summer of 2010. that'll be the right time i think.
That Guardian Interview needs to be in here............
In his own words: Ronaldo reveals all about Ferguson, his football dreams and his future
After a summer of intense speculation, Manchester United's forward has decided to speak out. Here the Guardian publishes the interview in full
Sir Alex Ferguson said this week that it was "the end of the matter" and that Cristiano Ronaldo will be playing at Manchester United next season. Is this true?
Yes. My coach was kind enough to come and see me in Lisbon a few days ago, which I think is common knowledge. It was a very honest conversation between two people that respect one other and that I'm sure share a mutual affection and friendship.
What we said to each other will remain private. Sir Alex listened to me, I listened to him and we established that the best for both sides would be for me to continue at Old Trafford. So, I can confirm that I'll be playing for Manchester United next season. And before there are any rumours and speculation about me staying against my will, I want to make one thing clear: whoever says or writes anything to that effect is lying. I'll be playing at Manchester United with my heart and soul. I will fight and honour the shirt with the same desire and dedication as I always have.
And how do you think the people at Real Madrid will feel hearing you say that you're staying at Manchester United?
I want to say that I was the one that was responsible for all this controversy. It wasn't their fault because it was me that said publicly that I wanted to move to Real Madrid. It was also me, although wholly unintentionally, that caused the friction between the two clubs.
Your statements after the Champions League final and during and after the European Championship demonstrated your enormous desire to leave Manchester United and move to Real Madrid. What did you actually want?
I knew that Real Madrid were interested in signing me and that they had, allegedly, made a very substantial offer to Manchester United. For a while, I wanted Manchester to accept the offer and for me to move to Madrid. If I denied it I would be deceiving everyone, including myself. Anyone who knows me knows that it would have to be something very important for me to admit such a thing. If there's one thing I've never been - nor do I ever want to be - it is ungrateful.
Manchester United - from the Glazer family, the directors, namely David Gill, to the coaches, team-mates and backroom staff - is a club that will always be dear to my heart. Whatever happens in the future, that will never change. I'm very aware of what this club has done for me and I'll be eternally grateful, come what may. But it was because of this, because I knew this club was different and extraordinarily human, that I hoped that my wishes and my reasons would be understood.
And what were the reasons that made you want to leave?
After we'd won the Champions League, I felt that in five years I had helped win everything there was to win. We'd won the Premier League twice and I'd won a host of individual awards, including the best goalscorer in the Premier League, Champions League and in Europe. So I felt that maybe I needed a new challenge. I never hid the fact that I wanted to play in Spain, at Real Madrid in particular, and I thought this could be the right moment.
Manchester United and Real are probably the two biggest clubs in the world and it would never be an easy decision to make. Apart from the challenge, everyone realises that Spanish and Portuguese culture and lifestyle are more similar. Those were the reasons that made me consider the change.
Nothing else? The attraction of an even more generous wage that Real Madrid are said to be willing to pay, for example?
I'm aware that, whatever the circumstances, there will always be speculation about me. I knew that there would always be someone who'd say that my main concern was making more money. Others would insist that my vanity couldn't resist being linked to the biggest transfer fee of all time at the age of 23. Of course I am proud to see my work recognised, but none of this had any major effect on what I wanted. In fact, if it was just a question of money, I would never leave Manchester United.
Apart from the reasons I've just given, I also have to recognise that my family would welcome the change. The chance of being an hour's flight from my mother and the rest of my family was very attractive, even more so playing for a club like Real Madrid. I know I have to deal with these circumstances, even though it's difficult sometimes, but it's harder to ask the same of the people I love the most.
The best proof of what I've just said is the fact that I've just made a major investment in a house in Manchester, even though I didn't have to. I did it not just for my own comfort but also for those closest to me. The people at Manchester United, particularly the manager, understood my reasons. But we all eventually concluded that I should continue to wear that No7 United shirt. It's no sacrifice for me, it's a great honour. I have important things to win in England. I will give everything I have to Manchester United. I want to defend the European title and help United become world champion, not forgetting the Premier League and other competitions.
Are you afraid of the reception you'll get from the Manchester United fans?
No, to be honest. It's possible but I hope it doesn't happen. I know I'm a good professional, I know that no one's harder on me than myself and that's never going to change, under any circumstances. The high point of my career was winning the Champions League. No one will ever erase that from my memory, in the same way that no one will ever erase the fact that I did it in a Manchester United shirt.
What I said publicly, which was maybe a little naive, I take total responsibility for. People have to understand one thing: at the age of 18 I arrived at a dream club like Manchester United. It was a dream come true. But, even at that moment, I was thinking about playing in England for some years and then going to play in Spain. Even at that time I was thinking that way, and I always gave 100% everything. Why lie? I'm not going to be a hypocrite and say the opposite of what I think, like some others do. I said exactly what I thought: I have a dream of playing at Real and I thought it was time to move on. People can't be upset about me fulfilling a childhood dream.
In his own words: Ronaldo reveals all about Ferguson, his football dreams and his future
After a summer of intense speculation, Manchester United's forward has decided to speak out. Here the Guardian publishes the interview in full
Sir Alex Ferguson said this week that it was "the end of the matter" and that Cristiano Ronaldo will be playing at Manchester United next season. Is this true?
Yes. My coach was kind enough to come and see me in Lisbon a few days ago, which I think is common knowledge. It was a very honest conversation between two people that respect one other and that I'm sure share a mutual affection and friendship.
What we said to each other will remain private. Sir Alex listened to me, I listened to him and we established that the best for both sides would be for me to continue at Old Trafford. So, I can confirm that I'll be playing for Manchester United next season. And before there are any rumours and speculation about me staying against my will, I want to make one thing clear: whoever says or writes anything to that effect is lying. I'll be playing at Manchester United with my heart and soul. I will fight and honour the shirt with the same desire and dedication as I always have.
And how do you think the people at Real Madrid will feel hearing you say that you're staying at Manchester United?
I want to say that I was the one that was responsible for all this controversy. It wasn't their fault because it was me that said publicly that I wanted to move to Real Madrid. It was also me, although wholly unintentionally, that caused the friction between the two clubs.
Your statements after the Champions League final and during and after the European Championship demonstrated your enormous desire to leave Manchester United and move to Real Madrid. What did you actually want?
I knew that Real Madrid were interested in signing me and that they had, allegedly, made a very substantial offer to Manchester United. For a while, I wanted Manchester to accept the offer and for me to move to Madrid. If I denied it I would be deceiving everyone, including myself. Anyone who knows me knows that it would have to be something very important for me to admit such a thing. If there's one thing I've never been - nor do I ever want to be - it is ungrateful.
Manchester United - from the Glazer family, the directors, namely David Gill, to the coaches, team-mates and backroom staff - is a club that will always be dear to my heart. Whatever happens in the future, that will never change. I'm very aware of what this club has done for me and I'll be eternally grateful, come what may. But it was because of this, because I knew this club was different and extraordinarily human, that I hoped that my wishes and my reasons would be understood.
And what were the reasons that made you want to leave?
After we'd won the Champions League, I felt that in five years I had helped win everything there was to win. We'd won the Premier League twice and I'd won a host of individual awards, including the best goalscorer in the Premier League, Champions League and in Europe. So I felt that maybe I needed a new challenge. I never hid the fact that I wanted to play in Spain, at Real Madrid in particular, and I thought this could be the right moment.
Manchester United and Real are probably the two biggest clubs in the world and it would never be an easy decision to make. Apart from the challenge, everyone realises that Spanish and Portuguese culture and lifestyle are more similar. Those were the reasons that made me consider the change.
Nothing else? The attraction of an even more generous wage that Real Madrid are said to be willing to pay, for example?
I'm aware that, whatever the circumstances, there will always be speculation about me. I knew that there would always be someone who'd say that my main concern was making more money. Others would insist that my vanity couldn't resist being linked to the biggest transfer fee of all time at the age of 23. Of course I am proud to see my work recognised, but none of this had any major effect on what I wanted. In fact, if it was just a question of money, I would never leave Manchester United.
Apart from the reasons I've just given, I also have to recognise that my family would welcome the change. The chance of being an hour's flight from my mother and the rest of my family was very attractive, even more so playing for a club like Real Madrid. I know I have to deal with these circumstances, even though it's difficult sometimes, but it's harder to ask the same of the people I love the most.
The best proof of what I've just said is the fact that I've just made a major investment in a house in Manchester, even though I didn't have to. I did it not just for my own comfort but also for those closest to me. The people at Manchester United, particularly the manager, understood my reasons. But we all eventually concluded that I should continue to wear that No7 United shirt. It's no sacrifice for me, it's a great honour. I have important things to win in England. I will give everything I have to Manchester United. I want to defend the European title and help United become world champion, not forgetting the Premier League and other competitions.
Are you afraid of the reception you'll get from the Manchester United fans?
No, to be honest. It's possible but I hope it doesn't happen. I know I'm a good professional, I know that no one's harder on me than myself and that's never going to change, under any circumstances. The high point of my career was winning the Champions League. No one will ever erase that from my memory, in the same way that no one will ever erase the fact that I did it in a Manchester United shirt.
What I said publicly, which was maybe a little naive, I take total responsibility for. People have to understand one thing: at the age of 18 I arrived at a dream club like Manchester United. It was a dream come true. But, even at that moment, I was thinking about playing in England for some years and then going to play in Spain. Even at that time I was thinking that way, and I always gave 100% everything. Why lie? I'm not going to be a hypocrite and say the opposite of what I think, like some others do. I said exactly what I thought: I have a dream of playing at Real and I thought it was time to move on. People can't be upset about me fulfilling a childhood dream.
Part 2
But would it be fair for Manchester United to lose you while you are still under contract?
I'm very aware of what this club has done for me. I'll be forever grateful. Manchester United and its fans can be sure that I'll never forget them, no matter what happens. They're special and they'll always have a place here [puts hand on heart]. In fact, I confess that one of the reasons I had the courage to say what I did was the fact that Manchester United would be fairly compensated.
The figure mentioned, which would be a world record, would serve as some compensation for the debt of gratitude that I owe the club, as least in material terms. I'm going to say something here that I've never told anybody: if we hadn't been European champions I probably wouldn't have even thought about going to Madrid. And there is something else that should be mentioned: I never wanted to leave against United's will. When they turned down the offer, the people at United made it very clear how much they wanted me. I didn't fully understand it at the time, but now I can really appreciate it.
But you agreed with Sepp Blatter when the president of Fifa said that long-term contracts between players and clubs were a form of "modern slavery"?
That makes no sense, nor do I believe that's what he meant, as he himself has already stated. My comment was about something else. I was saying that players should be where they feel happy. Nothing more.
Sir Alex Ferguson was always intransigent and denied any possibility of a transfer ...
Believe me, it makes me proud to know how much he thinks of me. And he knows I feel exactly the same way about him. He has been one of the most important people in my playing career. Not only because of what I've learnt and continue to learn from him in sporting terms but also in human ones as well. I love the passion he has for football. If it were humanly possible I would like to have him always by my side. Of course it's not possible but it shows how much affection, admiration and respect I have for him.
He has always been like a second father to me at Manchester United. I'll never forget that it was him that explained the significance of the No7 United shirt, which will always be my shirt. When I was at Sporting I had a number of offers, some of them very lucrative. One of them offered eight million Euros just as a signing on fee and meant that I would play for Sporting for one more year and then leave as a free agent. But money isn't everything. Barcelona, Real Madrid, Inter, Milan, Juventus, Valencia and practically all the big clubs were also interested.
At the time, Jorge Mendes explained that Manchester United also wanted me and that Sir Alex Ferguson had told him that he would be very careful with my playing career. So I would play at least 50% of the games in the first season, which is what happened. This shows that I also chose Manchester United and that money wasn't the deciding factor. Alongside my agent [Mendes], Sir Alex Ferguson has been the most important person I've ever known in my career. Because of this, because of the special relationship that exists between us, I know that he'll understand that there are times when a father has to worry only about what's best for his child.
The Spanish press continues to say that your future is at Real Madrid
There's no point in making predictions. It's not worth speculating because nothing is set in stone and things change all the time in football. Today there are opportunities that no one knows if they will come round again in the future. There are only two certainties: I'll be playing at Manchester United, a club I'm proud to represent; Real Madrid will continue to be a great club without me and I will continue to admire the Spanish club, as I have done since I was a boy.
I'm saying what I think and I hope that all the speculation will stop. The press has written some terrible things about me and about this whole thing. They've invented a thousand and one things and that's one of the reasons why I decided to talk about this now. And people can be sure of one thing: everything I've said comes from the bottom of my heart and is the only truth.
Which means you don't exclude the possibility the dream of playing for Madrid?
I'm 100% professional and I've always given my heart and soul to this club. I even played a major part of the season injured, which was verified by my operation. I played in excruciating pain while taking anti-inflammatory medication every day. And I'd do it again if necessary. This club deserves it because the United staff and the fans are fantastic, not forgetting the affection and respect I have for Sir Alex Ferguson. If one day I leave the club, I want to do it knowing that I did everything I could to help the club win as much as possible. If that happens, I'll leave with the feeling of having done my duty to the maximum."
Well then. There's a thing. Maybe, just maybe, our cnut is not a cnut.
But would it be fair for Manchester United to lose you while you are still under contract?
I'm very aware of what this club has done for me. I'll be forever grateful. Manchester United and its fans can be sure that I'll never forget them, no matter what happens. They're special and they'll always have a place here [puts hand on heart]. In fact, I confess that one of the reasons I had the courage to say what I did was the fact that Manchester United would be fairly compensated.
The figure mentioned, which would be a world record, would serve as some compensation for the debt of gratitude that I owe the club, as least in material terms. I'm going to say something here that I've never told anybody: if we hadn't been European champions I probably wouldn't have even thought about going to Madrid. And there is something else that should be mentioned: I never wanted to leave against United's will. When they turned down the offer, the people at United made it very clear how much they wanted me. I didn't fully understand it at the time, but now I can really appreciate it.
But you agreed with Sepp Blatter when the president of Fifa said that long-term contracts between players and clubs were a form of "modern slavery"?
That makes no sense, nor do I believe that's what he meant, as he himself has already stated. My comment was about something else. I was saying that players should be where they feel happy. Nothing more.
Sir Alex Ferguson was always intransigent and denied any possibility of a transfer ...
Believe me, it makes me proud to know how much he thinks of me. And he knows I feel exactly the same way about him. He has been one of the most important people in my playing career. Not only because of what I've learnt and continue to learn from him in sporting terms but also in human ones as well. I love the passion he has for football. If it were humanly possible I would like to have him always by my side. Of course it's not possible but it shows how much affection, admiration and respect I have for him.
He has always been like a second father to me at Manchester United. I'll never forget that it was him that explained the significance of the No7 United shirt, which will always be my shirt. When I was at Sporting I had a number of offers, some of them very lucrative. One of them offered eight million Euros just as a signing on fee and meant that I would play for Sporting for one more year and then leave as a free agent. But money isn't everything. Barcelona, Real Madrid, Inter, Milan, Juventus, Valencia and practically all the big clubs were also interested.
At the time, Jorge Mendes explained that Manchester United also wanted me and that Sir Alex Ferguson had told him that he would be very careful with my playing career. So I would play at least 50% of the games in the first season, which is what happened. This shows that I also chose Manchester United and that money wasn't the deciding factor. Alongside my agent [Mendes], Sir Alex Ferguson has been the most important person I've ever known in my career. Because of this, because of the special relationship that exists between us, I know that he'll understand that there are times when a father has to worry only about what's best for his child.
The Spanish press continues to say that your future is at Real Madrid
There's no point in making predictions. It's not worth speculating because nothing is set in stone and things change all the time in football. Today there are opportunities that no one knows if they will come round again in the future. There are only two certainties: I'll be playing at Manchester United, a club I'm proud to represent; Real Madrid will continue to be a great club without me and I will continue to admire the Spanish club, as I have done since I was a boy.
I'm saying what I think and I hope that all the speculation will stop. The press has written some terrible things about me and about this whole thing. They've invented a thousand and one things and that's one of the reasons why I decided to talk about this now. And people can be sure of one thing: everything I've said comes from the bottom of my heart and is the only truth.
Which means you don't exclude the possibility the dream of playing for Madrid?
I'm 100% professional and I've always given my heart and soul to this club. I even played a major part of the season injured, which was verified by my operation. I played in excruciating pain while taking anti-inflammatory medication every day. And I'd do it again if necessary. This club deserves it because the United staff and the fans are fantastic, not forgetting the affection and respect I have for Sir Alex Ferguson. If one day I leave the club, I want to do it knowing that I did everything I could to help the club win as much as possible. If that happens, I'll leave with the feeling of having done my duty to the maximum."
Well then. There's a thing. Maybe, just maybe, our cnut is not a cnut.
Intriguing interview
feck off... thats gotta be bollocks.
I've have not jumped on the hate Ronaldo bandwagon throughout this, but I've always maintained that the lad is thick as fecking pig shit. Theres no way that interview is true... uh oh its time for the bullshitometer again, Bahama.
I've have not jumped on the hate Ronaldo bandwagon throughout this, but I've always maintained that the lad is thick as fecking pig shit. Theres no way that interview is true... uh oh its time for the bullshitometer again, Bahama.
I appreciate his honesty, because he has mentioned about playing in Spain since his arrival in 2004, and now his confession on agitating and agreeing the move. He can simply brush this off by keeping silence, or pretending he hasn't said all this. I also appreciate he understands he is a key member of the team and S.A.F. needs time to find a replacement. We know he is a true professional who gives his all for United in training and actual games. What will happen at the end of the season, we'll just wait and see.
Wonder which link will the fans opt. for in regards to Ronaldo's saga?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5eEa5a2Rio&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh9cNYlmXEY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmS41_JdVLg
Too late, it imploded.
Happy!
Unofficial poll:
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Hard for us to say we're sorry; we just want you to stay - (0)
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My eyes welled up so bad when i saw that interview.
1luv1ronaldo man utd ruleeeeez!
1luv1ronaldo man utd ruleeeeez!
damn, another week of uncertainty would've have guaranteed 20k
but, as far as i am concerned, i'm extremely happy he's staying
but, as far as i am concerned, i'm extremely happy he's staying
Is this the "one player" that Fergie said he was going to sign?
The most significant two posts in this thread, Bahama. Fascinating stuff.
Does anyone know how the interview was conducted? Was it staged, as in were the questions already known and Ronaldo was simply responding with pre-prepared statements or was it carried out live on TV. He's cost himself a few bob in future book sales by revealing what he has.
Still, it does seem that he'll be moving on next year. Gives us time to seek out potential replacements.
Does anyone know how the interview was conducted? Was it staged, as in were the questions already known and Ronaldo was simply responding with pre-prepared statements or was it carried out live on TV. He's cost himself a few bob in future book sales by revealing what he has.
Still, it does seem that he'll be moving on next year. Gives us time to seek out potential replacements.
12 months in football is a long time, i think he'll be around for much longer
I reckon Fergie's made a deal with him for him to play one more year and then we'll let him go.
We shall see
do u remember the David Frost interview, in which SAF stated that, "Ronaldo will have to make a decision in 2 or 3 years"
quite frankly, after reading the Ronaldo interview, I feel that his career at OT is tied to SAF's tenure.
I reckon that, this was his 1 chance to get out, it didn't happen.
I get the feeling that a deal has been made rather than Fergie's iron fist slamming down on the desk... like Alex says, we'll see.
I agree with your point about him and SAF being tied together. If it's two more years and it becomes a magnificent 7 for Ronaldo, in today's modern game we can have no complaints, because very few players last at a club that long these, especially foreign ones
Am I the only one left with a bad taste in their mouth especially with the at least another year comment? But I suppose as Alex says, in today's age expecting loyalty from a player, much less a foreign player, is naivete.
A year is a long time. A lot will depend on the fans over time. That's us.
Would you have preferred no more than a year?
Great to hear he is staying. Although I don't agree with how he went about the whole ordeal, who knows the real story as we get all our information through the media.
Just glad to know that I'll be able to witness another full season of him, as he is a tremendous footballer and always exciting to watch.
Just glad to know that I'll be able to witness another full season of him, as he is a tremendous footballer and always exciting to watch.
Ok then.... SHUTTERS!
So he's cleared everything up then...he'd rather play for Madrid than us, but has accepted he will have to stay here till SAF says otherwise...well that makes me feel better
agreed and I wish he was leaving too. Will forever be referred to as The cnut, by me anyway.
I have never ever gone against SAF my whole life .... and I guess even now, I will have to find a way to accept his verdict .... but that does not stop our incumbet No 7 being a complete and utter classless piece of shite.
Talented beyond belief, yes, but all the joy from watching his development and contribution to our team has gone.
Fascinating to read the full interview
Ronaldo was always going to have to start crawling back to the fans at some point, that much was obvious. Have to say, its quite an impressive crawl though! Certainly makes those who claimed nothing was going on, and that it was all media hype and hysteria look the fools we all knew they were. He's admitted his role in the saga, he's said he was naive, and he's issued his regret about certain things
My gut feeling is that Ferguson has promised him a move next season if someone matches our valuation, and perhaps dependent on him guiding us to silverware again. I think its pretty clear unless something dramatic happens, Ronaldo has signed his last contract with this club. At some point we have to cash in before his value depreciates as his contract runs to its end
Ronaldo was always going to have to start crawling back to the fans at some point, that much was obvious. Have to say, its quite an impressive crawl though! Certainly makes those who claimed nothing was going on, and that it was all media hype and hysteria look the fools we all knew they were. He's admitted his role in the saga, he's said he was naive, and he's issued his regret about certain things
My gut feeling is that Ferguson has promised him a move next season if someone matches our valuation, and perhaps dependent on him guiding us to silverware again. I think its pretty clear unless something dramatic happens, Ronaldo has signed his last contract with this club. At some point we have to cash in before his value depreciates as his contract runs to its end
get over it, if the caf existed during the Cantona years, u would've dismissed as well!
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