We've discussed this right through here Nick....that's what has fuelled all of this...why do we need a statement? And why from you?
ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation
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I take this Ronaldo thing seriously Gaz, very seriouslyYou take this forum thing very seriously, I see.
Carry on!
But I love you.
I take this Ronaldo thing seriously Gaz, very seriously
But I love you.
Enough of this Bahamadrama along the Gazza strip, can't we all just get along?
Successful - yes, but I wouldn't use the word 'good'. In fact it's rather cnutish.
Enough of this Bahamadrama along the Gazza strip, can't we all just get along?
I'll pass the message on to Fergie and CQ. They seem to be getting a little worked up too. "Real can go to Hell", "Glazers' got balls", "Nationalize Ronaldo" and "Franco's association with Real". "We'll sit him in the stands, no doubt about that"..heavy, unheard of stuff from our maestros.That might just be getting us a "little" stirred up right now.
It's all P R .
The reason no one should worry is that, whatever happens, United hold all the cards in this one. And Fergie's on our side. I am calm.
The reason no one should worry is that, whatever happens, United hold all the cards in this one. And Fergie's on our side. I am calm.
We have the cards, yes Gaz, but would we want a player playing for us that didn't want to be here.? And how would the fans treat him if he said he was leaving at the end of the year....that would be fun to see. I can just see the Stretford End supporting him!! Viva Ronaldo will turn into feckOff Ronaldo, I assure you.
He´s seriously pissing me off with his behaviour - if he wants to leave i hope we don´t give in to Real and sell him to someone else.
No worries, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Nothing we as fans can do at this point.
So will he be making an anouncement tomorrow, then?
I fecking hope so.
I fecking hope so.
I can't see it, but hey it's Ronaldo who knows????
Custis + The Sun = bullshit
fecking hell so next season we have to live through another thread like this
I'd take that for the next 5-6 years.
The only concern is the health and mental state of BahamaRed. He won't make it I fear.
How are we going to be blind sided? Ronaldo can leave only if we say so at a price we agree to. Whether he stays or not we still need a forward so his situation has nothing to do with it. As for getting a replacement for him, well how do you replace the best player in the world?
Frankly if he is going this or next summer I rather it would be now. No one was as appreciated by United fans as he was this season (yes he earned it) and next season that may not be the case if he comes out and says something stupid like "Ok I'll stay for one more season."
If that will be the case he can feck off now. I love Ronaldo to bits, he is brilliant, but if he does not want to play for United then he can go and feck himself. If he wants to stay then fine, great in fact, stay, come out and say you're here for the long term.
I don't think the Guardian are much more "professional" than the Sun.
Nearly everything that Daniel Taylor, for one, writes is utter tripe. A shadow of it's former self that rag. Rarely does anything regarding United hav a positive spin and this will be no different. They'll delight in fuelling this shite whether credible or not. Bunch of cnuts.
Still, I'm not contesting your right to discuss the content of it - just saying that it's usually Sun/Mirror standard. For me, despite it's political leanings, the Telegraph is the most credible in it's integrity.
Nearly everything that Daniel Taylor, for one, writes is utter tripe. A shadow of it's former self that rag. Rarely does anything regarding United hav a positive spin and this will be no different. They'll delight in fuelling this shite whether credible or not. Bunch of cnuts.
Still, I'm not contesting your right to discuss the content of it - just saying that it's usually Sun/Mirror standard. For me, despite it's political leanings, the Telegraph is the most credible in it's integrity.
Fear not. More than anyone I know United will continue without him. But I fear we've lost our BPITW.Agree
Not going to believe anything until actual quotes from Ronaldo are out.
That's for sure. I just fear now that whatever he comes out with it's not going to be enough. If he says he leaves now, there'll be a war at OT. If he says he leaves in one year, the fans will tear him apart next year. Oh, the chants those United fans can make.....The only way he can redeem himself is if he says he is going to see out his contract and I really can't see that happening now. Add in the Fergie factor and you've got a cauldron of situation about to arise.
It's not the dog that is supposed to be sleeping. This is way past your bedtime, gramps.
Behave, children.
Ronaldo is going nowhere this summer even if he wants to. Madrid pissed us off far too much, and he'll still be worth a bucketload a year from now anyway.
If he stomps his feet next summer then he might be off.
As of right now there is no actual evidence he is stomping his feet. It seems to me he's angling for a pay rise and has miscalculated our reaction a bit.
Right after the CL final he said he would "definitely" stay next year. It is the long term future he keeps making an arse of himself about.
Ronaldo is going nowhere this summer even if he wants to. Madrid pissed us off far too much, and he'll still be worth a bucketload a year from now anyway.
If he stomps his feet next summer then he might be off.
As of right now there is no actual evidence he is stomping his feet. It seems to me he's angling for a pay rise and has miscalculated our reaction a bit.
Right after the CL final he said he would "definitely" stay next year. It is the long term future he keeps making an arse of himself about.
what's your sig other think about this whole situation...isn't she an ardent madrista? or supports atletico? i remember you saying it was some la liga team.
Madrid.
She thinks Calderon is an utter cuntface and is long-since tired of them embarrassing the club. His Galactico shit set the club back years, and she's afraid he's just doing it again. He'll turn the club into a circus just as they are starting to get their shit together. She doesn't really go for the superstar type.
She also thinks if he comes, without our strong family atmosphere and people to look after him that Ronaldo will go off the rails Lee Sharpe style.
Her mum really wants him to come, but I think that's due to her long-term hatred of United which has only gotten worse since Moscow.
Mind you, I'm no longer permitted to walk up behind Julissa and say "we're the Champions of Europe". We called a truce after she woke me up at 6AM a week ago singing "We won it nine times, without getting relegated". The bitch.
That's all well and good jason but what about these.....
Guardian
Cristiano Ronaldo appears to have made up his mind to leave Manchester United and fulfil his "dream" of joining Real Madrid. The Portugal international has informed his agent, Jorge Mendes, that he wants to play in Spain and his decision has already been outlined to Madrid, encouraging them to step up their attempts to prise him from Old Trafford.
Ronaldo is being offered a salary in the region of £150,000 a week after tax and has told his closest associates that the financial rewards, as well as the opportunity to play for a club of Madrid's prestige, are too good to turn down.
The double footballer of the year had stated on Saturday night that he would announce his decision "in two or three days" but journalists arriving at Portugal's Euro 2008 training base yesterday were informed that he would not speak to the media until Friday at the earliest. Instead, one of his associates briefed the Portuguese journalists that Ronaldo, as suspected, was hoping United would relent on their refusal to entertain the idea of negotiating a world-record transfer.
Relations between the two clubs have been severely strained and the latest developments will cause intense dismay to Sir Alex Ferguson, who has been increasingly vocal in his criticism of Madrid. There is also a growing sense of foreboding about Ronaldo's motives, specifically the manner in which he has repeatedly adapted his line in a string of media interviews.
Ferguson had wanted the player to hold a press conference, or, at the very least, put out a statement, committing himself to the club, but Ronaldo has made it clear he plans to do nothing of the kind."
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Independent
The much-awaited "decision" Cristiano Ronaldo has promised on his Manchester United future is now unlikely to come before Friday – two days later than promised – but there was an increasing sense within the Portuguese national squad's training camp in Switzerland last night that he might be ready to declare a desire to leave Old Trafford for Real Madrid.
Ronaldo's current propensity for speaking only to Spanish journalists in Switzerland has been a growing source of resentment for the press entourage from his own country, now based 80 miles from Geneva, and his repeated failure to pledge his future to United has also been accompanied by some bizarre behaviour where Real are concerned.
When a Spanish journalist upstaged a press conference last week at the squad's base at Viseu, northern Portugal, by presenting the player with a Real team poster and telling him: "I am here to say one thing: 'We want you with us,'" an employee of the Portuguese Football Federation tried to intervene. Ronaldo waved away the official's protestations and insisted on receiving the poster. "It's a present for me. I want it," he said.
Ronaldo's pattern of behaviour is becoming more and more predictable: first he makes the right noises about United; then, when only Spanish reporters are listening, he hints that he is ready to be courted by Real. The winger's suggestion at the weekend that he would decide on his future in the the next "two to three days" was the firmest indication yet that there was actually something on which to make up his mind. "
These papers usually have their fingers on the plot and have sure wound me up. As I said in another post I'm not sure there's any way out of this for Ronnie other than staying out his contract. Anything else is going to be trouble.
Calderon wasn't president back in the Galaticos days.
ronnie will never match sharpie when it comes to celebrations...legend.
and just call her a fascist and KHITC....you win.
weird that her mum has a deep rooted hatred of united. i am not aware of major issues between united and madrid from the olden days. I mean was there hatred stemming out of them beating us in the semis in 57? Most madrid supporters i know don't really have an issue with united one way or the other. I just can't stand them for their support and franco-subsidized ways. disgusting club IMO. as i noted in other posts prevoiusly, funny how there seems to be a lot of united supporters on here who favour madrid. never understood that and none of my united supporting friends in person like madrid. glad that finally many are seeing madrid for what they are.
true. perez was the galactico starter. god he had a face that you could just smash with a rusty mace. and sacking del bosque. what a nutter.
That's the one. She hated both of 'em.
Bahama, please show me a quote as opposed to the same old crap rehashed?
We do this every summer with him.
ronnie will never match sharpie when it comes to celebrations...legend.
and just call her a fascist and KHITC....you win.
weird that her mum has a deep rooted hatred of united. i am not aware of major issues between united and madrid from the olden days. I mean was there hatred stemming out of them beating us in the semis in 57? Most madrid supporters i know don't really have an issue with united one way or the other. I just can't stand them for their support and franco-subsidized ways. disgusting club IMO. as i noted in other posts prevoiusly, funny how there seems to be a lot of united supporters on here who favour madrid. never understood that and none of my united supporting friends in person like madrid. glad that finally many are seeing madrid for what they are.
Her mum didn't like us exclipsing them in popularity in the 1990s, and resents other teams claiming the mantle of "greatest" or anything like that.
She liked the 1950s team. Her husband saw the semi in 1957, and then moved to Glasgow in the 1960s and followed us from afar. He really likes us. She went to the semi in 1968 as her first big European game, and I don't think she was best pleased.
I have a poster of the 1967-8 team on the back wall here in the living room, and when she first saw it she rolled her eyes and said "god damned Bill Foulkes".
its a small world. can't wait for the day we (well hopefully it is us), but more realistically it'll be milan, surpass their european cup haul. I think the spanish government/madrid council will disintegrate on that day.
i was beginning to dislike barcelona (mind you i've always kept an eye on them in la liga as a 2nd team of sorts), though not because of them, but because newage fans don't stop raving about barca this barca that as if football wasn't invented before ronaldinho came along. i love to ask them why i couldn't find any of yous when van gaal was the gaffer and cocu/overmars were in midfield, reiziger in the back, kluivert up top, etc. they just get confused.
anyways, this whole saga had just reminded me that madrid are the evil ones.
That might just be getting us a "little" stirred up right now.
Bahama you're either a fcuking WUM or a drama queen... either way you're shites staring to make me get a bit itchy at this whole affair (when in reality we hold all the cards and I've seen no quotes from Ronnie himself)...
Go and smoke a spliff or summat...
I also hope all the shit stirring ABUs end up getting ass raped by filthy vagrants... I write this in the hope of it actually happening.
Bahama you're either a fcuking WUM or a drama queen... either way you're shites staring to make me get a bit itchy at this whole affair (when in reality we hold all the cards and I've seen no quotes from Ronnie himself)...
Go and smoke a spliff or summat...
He's just a truely passionate United supporter who cares deeply about the club in all its aspects, including the way our representatives conduct themselves
I believe similar concern has moved Ferguson and Quieroz to make the statements they have, and their strong stance has given Ronaldo no room for manouvre. If he's a clever lad, even if he does want to go to Madrid right now, he'll shut it and get on with playing for United. He's going nowhere. I'm interested to see how he conducts himself over the remains of the summer, hopefully much better than the last week or so
Next summer, with three years left on his contract, he'll still fetch an absolute fortune. In fact, assuming form and fitness, his value will drop relatively little. It's only once you get into two / one year left the value you can fetch plummits
Yeah I know, can't wait until this is over no matter how it ends.
United (supposedly) in turmoil sells papers so we should be used to it by now...
Bahama you're either a fcuking WUM or a drama queen... either way you're shites staring to make me get a bit itchy at this whole affair (when in reality we hold all the cards and I've seen no quotes from Ronnie himself)...
Go and smoke a spliff or summat...
Take a bath.
so fergie said theres no way he goes this summer , calderon gives up .. ronaldo doesnt talk to anyone and the media start making shit up for next season ...
what a shocker
what a shocker
so fergie said theres no way he goes this summer , calderon gives up .. ronaldo doesnt talk to anyone and the media start making shit up for next season ...
what a shocker
It does sell papers
Whatever actually happens, I think he wants to go.
Can't agree with Jason's theory that all this shit has gone off just so he can get a pay rise, which he'll get anyway in a year or two. Madrid have clearly been onto his agent and fed the Spanish media to bring us to where we are now with all this hysteria. It's got him in a dither and although we thought we'd keep him until 2012, it looks like he'll be off at least a couple of years before that. Hope you're right Jase but don't think so.
Still, I cannot see Fergie letting him go this year, at least.
Can't agree with Jason's theory that all this shit has gone off just so he can get a pay rise, which he'll get anyway in a year or two. Madrid have clearly been onto his agent and fed the Spanish media to bring us to where we are now with all this hysteria. It's got him in a dither and although we thought we'd keep him until 2012, it looks like he'll be off at least a couple of years before that. Hope you're right Jase but don't think so.
Still, I cannot see Fergie letting him go this year, at least.
from nowhere?
One thing is to be voted best player in his first season but he was still unknown in Europe. And yes i said from nowhere cause nobody knew there was a boy named Ronaldo and that he had the potential to become the best in the world. ffs he came as a unknown lad with no experience at all and raw as hell. We developed him until he became the player he is today.
Ditto. And he's unlikely to stay here forever like Giggs. Even if he remains here for another season, we should be prepared to look for possible decent replacement...he's more or less creating a big media circus like Beckham's. What did Real Madrid have that we didn't have?!
United has even more positive football environment. If he does declare that he wants to go to Real, we should sell him to Barca or Milan to piss Real off.- Status