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Real Madrid captain Raul has spoken out in defence of the club after Sir Alex Ferguson stated that joining the club would be the worst thing that Cristiano Ronaldo could do for his career.

Los Merengues icon Raul was stunned by the Scotsman's outburst and believes that playing for the Spanish giants would be the pinnacle for any player.

The public tussle over Ronaldo continued with Ferguson's words and Raul felt that he could not let the comments pass without responding.

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"Joining Madrid is the best thing that could happen to anyone," Raul told Marca. "I have been here for 14 years and I would not change anything."

With rumour and counter-rumour a daily occurrence as the media try to be the first to predict whether Ronaldo will stay or leave United, the soundbytes from both camps are increasing.

Ferguson's statement came on the same day that the Premier League giants were given some encouragement by their player that he would stay as he talked about the team improving next term.

Madrid president Ramon Calderon has also continued to keep the saga in the papers with comments, but his optimism has waned of late and the club have now reportedly asked about Kaka.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3852117,00.html
 
ThatOldRedMagic said:
David Beckham as an intellectual? Heinrich Himmler as President of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute?
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He's no genius, but the way he handled publicity and went on about things was far more respectable than the way Ronaldo does it. I mean, you cannot possibly make comments more annoying in a view of your fans than what Ronaldo has said so far.
 
Kelvin said:
Real Madrid captain Raul has spoken out in defence of the club after Sir Alex Ferguson stated that joining the club would be the worst thing that Cristiano Ronaldo could do for his career.

Los Merengues icon Raul was stunned by the Scotsman's outburst and believes that playing for the Spanish giants would be the pinnacle for any player.

The public tussle over Ronaldo continued with Ferguson's words and Raul felt that he could not let the comments pass without responding.

Best thing
"Joining Madrid is the best thing that could happen to anyone," Raul told Marca. "I have been here for 14 years and I would not change anything."

With rumour and counter-rumour a daily occurrence as the media try to be the first to predict whether Ronaldo will stay or leave United, the soundbytes from both camps are increasing.

Ferguson's statement came on the same day that the Premier League giants were given some encouragement by their player that he would stay as he talked about the team improving next term.

Madrid president Ramon Calderon has also continued to keep the saga in the papers with comments, but his optimism has waned of late and the club have now reportedly asked about Kaka.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3852117,00.html
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Yeah, and he's well placed to comment on what it's like to play for a different club, isn't he? :rolleyes:
 
BahamaRed said:
cnuts. Link?
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Todays paper

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Kelvin said:
Real Madrid captain Raul has spoken out in defence of the club after Sir Alex Ferguson stated that joining the club would be the worst thing that Cristiano Ronaldo could do for his career.

Los Merengues icon Raul was stunned by the Scotsman's outburst and believes that playing for the Spanish giants would be the pinnacle for any player.

The public tussle over Ronaldo continued with Ferguson's words and Raul felt that he could not let the comments pass without responding.

Best thing
"Joining Madrid is the best thing that could happen to anyone," Raul told Marca. "I have been here for 14 years and I would not change anything."

With rumour and counter-rumour a daily occurrence as the media try to be the first to predict whether Ronaldo will stay or leave United, the soundbytes from both camps are increasing.

Ferguson's statement came on the same day that the Premier League giants were given some encouragement by their player that he would stay as he talked about the team improving next term.

Madrid president Ramon Calderon has also continued to keep the saga in the papers with comments, but his optimism has waned of late and the club have now reportedly asked about Kaka.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3852117,00.html
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Ah , yes his vast experience of playing for other clubs makes him the right judge of this.
 
ThatOldRedMagic said:
You know, I rather think that some of you guys are so naive as to be deserving of pity. I find it genuinely sad that so many supporters utterly fail to understand that the modern game is very largely played by professionals in every sense - including keeping all their career options open.

For a player to sell his soul to a club, kiss the badge and declare his unwavering, undying loyalty, his absolute refusal to countenance any move away from the club he adores, is not merely very rare, but would be rather silly. This sort of attitude belongs with the fans; it can never be adopted by the players en masse in the context of the modern game. Players are therefore looking out for their own best interests. Some might call them mercenaries. Others still might hurl the abusive term 'whore'. I guess there is some justification for both, but the reality is that as fans we come to love our favourite and best players at our peril, for it must ever remain a case of unrequited love. They cannot reciprocate our love without, at least potentially, compromising their career choices.

So where does this leave the likes of you and your fellow cnut-callers? Well for a start you reveal yourselves as arrogant. Yes, I'm very sorry but you are. You expect each and every player to adhere rigidly to your own code of fidelity and passion for the club. How unrealistic is that?! Second, you reveal yourselves as naive; just because that at United we are lucky enough to have a few of those very rare, totally loyal players, you bitch about the normal ones who never will buy into that mind set. And thirdly you display the conceit to 'demand' that players all fall in with your strictures upon player attitude and conduct, to the extent that you issue your hilarious 'warnings' to players of such quality and stature as Rio Ferdinand, who no doubt quake in their boots on hearing your dire warnings!

Let's for goodness sake keep a sense of proportion here. I'm sure I cannot be the only one to find your attitude to Rio as hilarious as it is objectionable
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well said.
 
Ah, Raul you fool. No one can take that seriously.

Not only have you only played for Real Madrid as an adult, you sold your soul by joining them from their biggest rivals ATLETICO MADRID you classless cnut!
 
Raul, who are European champions? :D . Arrogant tossers
 
Cheap imitation and they stole the name Ronometer.

Took the press ages though. I thought thye'd have used the idea ages ago.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Yeah, and he's well placed to comment on what it's like to play for a different club, isn't he? :rolleyes:
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Seems like he has forgotten how he almost left Real a couple of years ago because everyone turned against him when he played like shit:wenger:
 
INF-AMOS said:
I get the impression that there are private communications between Real, Calderon, Ronaldo, and his Representatives.

It’s all too coincidental that Ronaldo reiterates that his future is still not decided whilst Calderon then also states that Real have not given up hope of signing him.

What a kick in the teeth it would be then for Ronaldo if Real were to instantly drop interest in him and switch to Kaka.

It would be like asking some ones wife to leave her husband for you and then switching your attentions elsewhere after she has told her husband she wants to leave him.

Yes we will have you back Ronny but you are sleeping in the spare room so to speak.:D
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You haven't been keeping up, have you? Ronaldo confirmed that he would be playing in Manchester this season BEFORE this Real-Kaka business came up (from his own mouth, on video).
 
Kelvin said:
Real Madrid captain Raul has spoken out in defence of the club after Sir Alex Ferguson stated that joining the club would be the worst thing that Cristiano Ronaldo could do for his career.

Los Merengues icon Raul was stunned by the Scotsman's outburst and believes that playing for the Spanish giants would be the pinnacle for any player.

The public tussle over Ronaldo continued with Ferguson's words and Raul felt that he could not let the comments pass without responding.

Best thing
"Joining Madrid is the best thing that could happen to anyone," Raul told Marca. "I have been here for 14 years and I would not change anything."

With rumour and counter-rumour a daily occurrence as the media try to be the first to predict whether Ronaldo will stay or leave United, the soundbytes from both camps are increasing.

Ferguson's statement came on the same day that the Premier League giants were given some encouragement by their player that he would stay as he talked about the team improving next term.

Madrid president Ramon Calderon has also continued to keep the saga in the papers with comments, but his optimism has waned of late and the club have now reportedly asked about Kaka.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3852117,00.html
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Gaz would probably say something similar if the situation were reversed.
 
ThatOldRedMagic said:
You know, I rather think that some of you guys are so naive as to be deserving of pity. I find it genuinely sad that so many supporters utterly fail to understand that the modern game is very largely played by professionals in every sense - including keeping all their career options open.

For a player to sell his soul to a club, kiss the badge and declare his unwavering, undying loyalty, his absolute refusal to countenance any move away from the club he adores, is not merely very rare, but would be rather silly. This sort of attitude belongs with the fans; it can never be adopted by the players en masse in the context of the modern game. Players are therefore looking out for their own best interests. Some might call them mercenaries. Others still might hurl the abusive term 'whore'. I guess there is some justification for both, but the reality is that as fans we come to love our favourite and best players at our peril, for it must ever remain a case of unrequited love. They cannot reciprocate our love without, at least potentially, compromising their career choices.

So where does this leave the likes of you and your fellow cnut-callers? Well for a start you reveal yourselves as arrogant. Yes, I'm very sorry but you are. You expect each and every player to adhere rigidly to your own code of fidelity and passion for the club. How unrealistic is that?! Second, you reveal yourselves as naive; just because that at United we are lucky enough to have a few of those very rare, totally loyal players, you bitch about the normal ones who never will buy into that mind set. And thirdly you display the conceit to 'demand' that players all fall in with your strictures upon player attitude and conduct, to the extent that you issue your hilarious 'warnings' to players of such quality and stature as Rio Ferdinand, who no doubt quake in their boots on hearing your dire warnings!

Let's for goodness sake keep a sense of proportion here. I'm sure I cannot be the only one to find your attitude to Rio as hilarious as it is objectionable
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Nah, I don't agree with that. I think you miss the point, there is nothing wrong with Ronaldo wanting away in itself, that's entirely reasonable. What hasn't been reasonable is 1) that he wants so a year after signing a 5 year contract, where he was paid handsomely in return for his long term committment to the club, and 2) the way he's handled himself, let the saga develop, and some of the things he's said

People keep comparing him to the likes of Scholes, Neville and Giggs, saying not everyone is like that and we're lucky. Thing is, we have plenty of players who aren't local, or haven't been with the club for years and years. But I don't question their loyalty. They haven't seen the need to act in this way. I don't think you can describe Ronaldo's behaviour as in any way 'normal'

Lastly, I see your post as one built on passionless logic. Football is all about passion and caring. Ultimately it doesn't matter; at the same time, it really does. I'm sick of arguements like yours that demand we have to accept the 'real world' of todays top players and their attiutudes. No we don't, and we can wear our hearts on our sleeve as we speak out against it. Modern footballers are still bound to their contracts. Their wages are still paid by match going and TV watching supporters. Whilst thats the case, we have every right to complain when we see a player, especially at our own club, treating us with contempt and disdane
 
MiamiSpartan said:
You haven't been keeping up, have you? Ronaldo confirmed that he would be playing in Manchester this season BEFORE this Real-Kaka business came up (from his own mouth, on video).
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Not literally he didn't. He talked about the forthcoming season for United and a desire to win more trophies. Even if I were still angling for a move but being coy about it I'd have answered in the same way. Having said that he may have decided that he's not going to get the move. Either way he didn't specifically confirm where he would be playing. It was only by implication.
 
ThatOldRedMagic said:
You know, I rather think that some of you guys are so naive as to be deserving of pity. I find it genuinely sad that so many supporters utterly fail to understand that the modern game is very largely played by professionals in every sense - including keeping all their career options open.

For a player to sell his soul to a club, kiss the badge and declare his unwavering, undying loyalty, his absolute refusal to countenance any move away from the club he adores, is not merely very rare, but would be rather silly. This sort of attitude belongs with the fans; it can never be adopted by the players en masse in the context of the modern game. Players are therefore looking out for their own best interests. Some might call them mercenaries. Others still might hurl the abusive term 'whore'. I guess there is some justification for both, but the reality is that as fans we come to love our favourite and best players at our peril, for it must ever remain a case of unrequited love. They cannot reciprocate our love without, at least potentially, compromising their career choices.

So where does this leave the likes of you and your fellow cnut-callers? Well for a start you reveal yourselves as arrogant. Yes, I'm very sorry but you are. You expect each and every player to adhere rigidly to your own code of fidelity and passion for the club. How unrealistic is that?! Second, you reveal yourselves as naive; just because that at United we are lucky enough to have a few of those very rare, totally loyal players, you bitch about the normal ones who never will buy into that mind set. And thirdly you display the conceit to 'demand' that players all fall in with your strictures upon player attitude and conduct, to the extent that you issue your hilarious 'warnings' to players of such quality and stature as Rio Ferdinand, who no doubt quake in their boots on hearing your dire warnings!

Let's for goodness sake keep a sense of proportion here. I'm sure I cannot be the only one to find your attitude to Rio as hilarious as it is objectionable
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This isn't just about a player not having undying loyalty to United. I don't think that many people hold much ill will toward other players who have left, with only a few exceptions (such as a certain cnut who wanted to play for Liverpool). So your point about people hating Ronaldo because they are expecting undying loyalty from every player just isn't valid. Maybe a small minority here, but not many at all are that naive.

I agree that players are professionals and we have to be realistic about that. Ronaldo has gone beyond just acting like a professional footballer. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt through the Terra interview and the Balangue interview. Several of those quotes, if true at all, could easily mean different things based on the context, and could mean that he was just after a new contract, which would not lead me to lose any great amount of respect for him. But the Blatter comments on slavery went too far. And no, I don't buy his claim that he was misinterpreted. If you are misinterpreted by every media outlet in the world about about agreeing with one of the most ignorant, racist statements of the year, you don't wait a WEEK to clarify the statement, unless you are waiting to see if your comments had the desired affect.

I accept him back in the team, and I won't "hate" him. But I am apathetic toward him.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
He took his time in negotiating a contract that was a fair reflection of his value to the team. A value he has since lived up to (and more) by his performances on the pitch.

I didn't have a problem with this at the time, just like I didn't have a problem with Keano doing something similar, a few seasons before that. Anyone who starts booing players - for taking their time in negotiating a new contract - is a tool, IMO.
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Seconded
 
ThatOldRedMagic said:
You know, I rather think that some of you guys are so naive as to be deserving of pity. I find it genuinely sad that so many supporters utterly fail to understand that the modern game is very largely played by professionals in every sense - including keeping all their career options open.

For a player to sell his soul to a club, kiss the badge and declare his unwavering, undying loyalty, his absolute refusal to countenance any move away from the club he adores, is not merely very rare, but would be rather silly. This sort of attitude belongs with the fans; it can never be adopted by the players en masse in the context of the modern game. Players are therefore looking out for their own best interests. Some might call them mercenaries. Others still might hurl the abusive term 'whore'. I guess there is some justification for both, but the reality is that as fans we come to love our favourite and best players at our peril, for it must ever remain a case of unrequited love. They cannot reciprocate our love without, at least potentially, compromising their career choices.

So where does this leave the likes of you and your fellow cnut-callers? Well for a start you reveal yourselves as arrogant. Yes, I'm very sorry but you are. You expect each and every player to adhere rigidly to your own code of fidelity and passion for the club. How unrealistic is that?! Second, you reveal yourselves as naive; just because that at United we are lucky enough to have a few of those very rare, totally loyal players, you bitch about the normal ones who never will buy into that mind set. And thirdly you display the conceit to 'demand' that players all fall in with your strictures upon player attitude and conduct, to the extent that you issue your hilarious 'warnings' to players of such quality and stature as Rio Ferdinand, who no doubt quake in their boots on hearing your dire warnings!

Let's for goodness sake keep a sense of proportion here. I'm sure I cannot be the only one to find your attitude to Rio as hilarious as it is objectionable
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Quality post as usual.

Funnilly enough I can relate to everything you say with most footballers/teams - but for reasons I cannot explain my personality changes as soon as "United" come into the equation - all logic, and rational thinking vanishes.

United is about the only time I let myself go completely.
 
Whats funny is that Raul would not change a thing about Real Madrid? So he is fine with the manager changing nearly every season even if he has delivered success. Or the yearly boardroom squabbles with candiates promising things that they cant deliver. The president is also a foolish man who blatantly and shamelessly tries to tap up the best players in the world. They could learn a lot about how to run a football club.
 
RedRichio said:
As I said above he at no point literally confirmed he was staying. He simply spoke about next season and winning trophies at United.
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people Ronaldo is staying......

It's that simple. Stop reading the gutter press for the love of all that is holy. Switch off ssn, don't turn on the radio!! and get mutv.

This is absurd how the mood swings every article we get. Ronaldo has a four year contract, he's not for sale. End of story.
 
afrocentricity said:
FFS :rolleyes:

are you a scouser in disguise?
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Actually the hurt, and anger being shown in his posts are those of a very passionate United fan...

Why do people think you have to love/support every player regardless of their attitude?
 
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