ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

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RedPhil1957 said:
Of course he has an option, he could ask for transfer and made a big fuss about being kept against his will etc etc which is exactly what Madrid have been pushing him to do. The media would have loved it and if he had no respect for the club like some on here say that is exactly what he would do.
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Erm, did you miss the co-ordinated slavery comments from Blatter and Ronaldo?

Fergie nipped it in the bud by finally speaking out, and meeting Ronaldo face to face. You can bet he told Ronaldo in no uncertain terms what was going to happen, he was staying here next season. Yes he could make a greater fuss and 'demand' a transfer, but he isn't going to get one. I'm sure the lad is smart enough to realise what he needs to try and do now to get his colleagues and supporters onside again

Don't for a second think we'd have heard this interview from Ronaldo now had Fergie not acted when he did
 
All hail the BBC for printing the quotes in some sort of context:



Ferguson warns Ronaldo over Real

Ronaldo is currently recovering from ankle surgery
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has warned Cristiano Ronaldo that moving to Real Madrid would be the "worst thing" for his career.

Ferguson, who met the injured winger in Lisbon last week, said a switch from Old Trafford would be a big mistake.

He said: "If you were asked for advice by your son, you would give him the best advice and the worst thing Ronaldo could do is to go to Real Madrid.

"He is at the right club and a fantastic football club."

Ronaldo, who scored 42 goals for United last season and whose contract runs until 2012, refused to rule out a move to the Spanish champions over the weekend.

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Give your reaction to Ferguson's comments

The 23-year-old is currently recuperating after ankle surgery, which ruled him out of United's trip to South Africa.

But Ferguson, who was speaking in Durban ahead of United's pre-season friendly clash with Orlando Pirates on Tuesday has reiterated his belief that Ronaldo will be staying at Old Trafford.

"In the modern-day, young lads can be twisted by the talk of money, but if you saw Ronaldo after the Champions League final, he was the happiest boy in the world," he said.

"I genuinely believe that I know what the best club in the world is for him and that is Manchester United.

"When you have young players, you want the best for them and you want to do the best for them."
 
RedRichio said:
“The future is that he signed a five year contract with the team last year and he has four years left. That’s definite, I’ve seen his signature,” said the Scot.

“After the Champions League final Ronaldo was the happiest boy in the world. I think he knows where the best club is to be, and that is Manchester United.

“I honestly believe that going to Real Madrid would be the worst thing he could do. He’s 23 years old and is at a fantastic club.”

Jesus Christ. That article is the biggest load of bollocks ever. How does Fergie saying those things mean he is worried that Ronaldo might leave?
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So I'll go my own personal tabloid spin and say that SAF watched the rest of the ESPN Deportes inteview on SSN this morning and has decided that it's time to start telling people that playing for United isn't a punishment.

It's a shame though. Just when I thought there was a general feeling that the pitchforks and burning torches could be returned, at least temporarily, to the barn, we get another call to the barricades :devil:
 
Spoonov said:
Fergie's clearly the reason why Ronaldo's still at United.
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To be honest if it weren't for Fergie he'd have gone after the world cup two years ago.

I can see why he could argue Real is not a good place to go but I'd say that is unfair and somewhat tainted by self interest. I would argue that Real is not the place to go right now but it's hard to argue against him ever joining them, particularly when he is more mature.
 
RedRichio said:
To be honest if it weren't for Fergie he'd have gone after the world cup two years ago.
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Possibly. But I don't think any other manager could've kept him, this summer. Fergie was adamant that Ronaldo was going nowhere, from the beginning. Real didn't make a bid, but I doubt he'd still have been at Old Trafford if Madrid did actually make a huge offer and it was accepted by the Glazers. He's unsackable. . .so, what he says carries a lot of clout. Next summer should be interesting, though. Although, it wouldn't surprise me if he's here until Fergie's reign's over.
 
Brad said:
Erm, did you miss the co-ordinated slavery comments from Blatter and Ronaldo?

Fergie nipped it in the bud by finally speaking out, and meeting Ronaldo face to face. You can bet he told Ronaldo in no uncertain terms what was going to happen, he was staying here next season. Yes he could make a greater fuss and 'demand' a transfer, but he isn't going to get one. I'm sure the lad is smart enough to realise what he needs to try and do now to get his colleagues and supporters onside again

Don't for a second think we'd have heard this interview from Ronaldo now had Fergie not acted when he did
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Actually we almost didn't. Read into that what you will, but it scarcely lends itself as a 'Ronaldo hastily searching for bridge-repairing materials' scenario..
 
Spoonov said:
Possibly. But I don't think any other manager could've kept him, this summer. Fergie was adamant that Ronaldo was going nowhere, from the beginning. Real didn't make a bid, but I doubt he'd still have been at Old Trafford if Madrid did actually make a huge offer and it was accepted by the Glazers. He's unsackable. . .so, what he says carries a lot of clout. Next summer should be interesting, though. Although, it wouldn't surprise me if he's here until Fergie's reign's over.
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I've always wondered if Fergie's comment about leaving in 3 years had an impact on Ronaldo. Ronaldo has seen Fergie as a father figure during his time at Old Trafford, and I wonder if knowing that in 3 years he won't be there anymore he figured maybe it's best to move on now when he's at his most valuable, price wise, in an attempt to give the club as much money as possible.
 
Spoonov said:
Possibly. But I don't think any other manager could've kept him, this summer. Fergie was adamant that Ronaldo was going nowhere, from the beginning. Real didn't make a bid, but I doubt he'd still have been at Old Trafford if Madrid did actually make a huge offer and it was accepted by the Glazers. He's unsackable. . .so, what he says carries a lot of clout. Next summer should be interesting, though. Although, it wouldn't surprise me if he's here until Fergie's reign's over.
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I would say it's a certainty he's off next summer.

As I said waaaaaaaaaaay back on about page 10 of this thread, we've basically found ourselves in the same situation that Bayern did with Hargreaves, the season before last.

We've got a player, on a long-term contract, who is agitating for a move but we don't want to sell.

We can play hard-ball for now but he will only be convinced to stay, on the condition that we don't block his departure the following summer.

Actually, come to think of it, this is the same scenario that Spurs faced with Berbatov last summer. Which should mean it's only a matter of time before Spurs roll over. But that's a theory for a different (massive) thread.
 
Spoonov said:
Possibly. But I don't think any other manager could've kept him, this summer. Fergie was adamant that Ronaldo was going nowhere, from the beginning. Real didn't make a bid, but I doubt he'd still have been at Old Trafford if Madrid did actually make a huge offer and it was accepted by the Glazers. He's unsackable. . .so, what he says carries a lot of clout. Next summer should be interesting, though. Although, it wouldn't surprise me if he's here until Fergie's reign's over.
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O great and wise one, in truth you have spoken soothly.

(So why persist with the Lenin thingy? I preferred the right-wing dictator job with el cigaro grande.)
 
olesmyhero said:
I've always wondered if Fergie's comment about leaving in 3 years had an impact on Ronaldo. Ronaldo has seen Fergie as a father figure during his time at Old Trafford, and I wonder if knowing that in 3 years he won't be there anymore he figured maybe it's best to move on now when he's at his most valuable, price wise, in an attempt to give the club as much money as possible.
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As opposed to joining a club with (I quote Henry Winter) 'a revolving-door approach to managers?
 
olesmyhero said:
I've always wondered if Fergie's comment about leaving in 3 years had an impact on Ronaldo. Ronaldo has seen Fergie as a father figure during his time at Old Trafford, and I wonder if knowing that in 3 years he won't be there anymore he figured maybe it's best to move on now when he's at his most valuable, price wise, in an attempt to give the club as much money as possible.
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I'm not sure if it had any impact. Mainly because Ronaldo was with his national side, away from anyone connected with United(bar Nani, of course). So, the likes of Scolari must've swayed his mind. One only wonders what Fergie actually said to him. . . but I bet he used the them against us, routine. Fergie's got a great side, one that will get better this/next season. . .there was no way, he'd have wanted to break it up, especially since his retirement's on the horizon.
 
ThatOldRedMagic said:
O great and wise one, in truth you have spoken soothly.

(So why persist with the Lenin thingy? I preferred the right-wing dictator job with el cigaro grande.)
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Moscow! European Champions! Lenin! Spoonov!

Next season:

Rome! European Champions, again! Caligula! Spoonelli!
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I would say it's a certainty he's off next summer.

As I said waaaaaaaaaaay back on about page 10 of this thread, we've basically found ourselves in the same situation that Bayern did with Hargreaves, the season before last.

We've got a player, on a long-term contract, who is agitating for a move but we don't want to sell.

We can play hard-ball for now but he will only be convinced to stay, on the condition that we don't block his departure the following summer.

Actually, come to think of it, this is the same scenario that Spurs faced with Berbatov last summer. Which should mean it's only a matter of time before Spurs roll over. But that's a theory for a different (massive) thread.
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So los Meringues fail to get Ronnie, very possibly lose Robinho, fail to prepare for sensible signings this summer, (having indulged themselves exclusively in an orgy of Ronanism, which as any fule *** makes you blind), thus fail to qualify for the CL and he wants to exchange a place in the most exciting young team in the world for a spell in the UEFA cup? Well I suppose that would at least be something new to him.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I would say it's a certainty he's off next summer.

As I said waaaaaaaaaaay back on about page 10 of this thread, we've basically found ourselves in the same situation that Bayern did with Hargreaves, the season before last.

We've got a player, on a long-term contract, who is agitating for a move but we don't want to sell.

We can play hard-ball for now but he will only be convinced to stay, on the condition that we don't block his departure the following summer.

Actually, come to think of it, this is the same scenario that Spurs faced with Berbatov last summer. Which should mean it's only a matter of time before Spurs roll over. But that's a theory for a different (massive) thread.
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I'm not sure about that. I think we could have easily pointed out we're european champions, anywhere else is down and we have a good a chance as any of retaining the trophy

It's still speculation but clearly even if we did agree to sell him the season after, the price would be huge....would madrid pay what we want?

There are a few things and I think Sir Alex was right about madrid. I don't think it's a healthy dressing room. Players talking about being jealous if he's on higher wages - really isn't about winning medals etc.
 
ThatOldRedMagic said:
So los Meringues fail to get Ronnie, very possibly lose Robinho, fail to prepare for sensible signings this summer, (having indulged themselves exclusively in an orgy of Ronanism, which as any fule *** makes you blind), thus fail to qualify for the CL and he wants to exchange a place in the most exciting young team in the world for a spell in the UEFA cup? Well I suppose that would at least be something new to him.
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That's a mighty significant (and unlikely) clause, buried right there in the middle of that scenario.

Nah, he's off in summer '09, come what may. Which is fine by me. If we plan his departure well in advance we can line up some seriously tasty players to sign with the proceeds from his eventual sale. Much better than being bullied into selling him, against our will.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I would say it's a certainty he's off next summer.

As I said waaaaaaaaaaay back on about page 10 of this thread, we've basically found ourselves in the same situation that Bayern did with Hargreaves, the season before last.

We've got a player, on a long-term contract, who is agitating for a move but we don't want to sell.

We can play hard-ball for now but he will only be convinced to stay, on the condition that we don't block his departure the following summer.

Actually, come to think of it, this is the same scenario that Spurs faced with Berbatov last summer. Which should mean it's only a matter of time before Spurs roll over. But that's a theory for a different (massive) thread.
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Well, the difference is that Spurs don't have a manager like Fergie and can't offer CL football to their best players. Ronaldo's got everything at United. Only an idiot would throw it all way, at such a young age. But who knows? he could be off next summer, giving Fergie enough time to find a suitable replacement, or he could be here until Fergie calls it a day.
 
Striker10 said:
There are a few things and I think Sir Alex was right about madrid. I don't think it's a healthy dressing room. Players talking about being jealous if he's on higher wages - really isn't about winning medals etc.
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Sounds like Ronaldo should be right at home. One thing's for sure, all the bullshit this summer hasn't been about his desire to win medals.
 
Spoonov said:
Moscow! European Champions! Lenin! Spoonov!

Next season:

Rome! European Champions, again! Caligula! Spoonelli!
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Awesome! I can't wait; 'I am announcing that I shall be appointing my trusty Ford Mondeo as Pro-consul.'

Caligula! Remember that Suetonius informs us in 'The Twelve Caesars' that one of Gaius' first acts (Caligula was just his nickname, meaning ;little boots;) on becoming Emperor was to drive the spintriae (male prostitutes) out of the city.

The potential is vast...
 
Pogue Mahone said:
That's a mighty significant (and unlikely) clause, buried right there in the middle of that scenario.

Nah, he's off in summer '09, come what may. Which is fine by me. If we plan his departure well in advance we can line up some seriously tasty players to sign with the proceeds from his eventual sale. Much better than being bullied into selling him, against our will.
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I am not so sure. I really think for as long as SAF is here or for as long as SAF is here and wants Ronaldo here, he will be here. The man is a genius at keeping players, even when they want out. I think it also depends on how we do next season. If Ronaldo has an average season, failing to win any individual awards and we don't win any major trophies, Ronaldo might want to stay another season to go out on a better note. Also, don't forget Calderon might not be RM president then and the new president might not be so keen on buying Ronaldo.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Sounds like Ronaldo should be right at home. One thing's for sure, all the bullshit this summer hasn't been about his desire to win medals.
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well it's a desire to play in spain not earn more :) I wouldn't be suprised now if the cnuts in the media don't try and make out we'll sell him next season lol

We should put a positive slant on it. We don't know the future and certainly speculation from everyone only helps people with unimaginative minds and spaces to fill in their rags
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Sounds like Ronaldo should be right at home. One thing's for sure, all the bullshit this summer hasn't been about his desire to win medals.
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United's one big family, thanks to Fergie. If Ronaldo expects it to be the same at Real, then he's gravely mistaken. Not to mention the pressure he'd be under to perform, thanks to his transfer fee. He's got a great thing going on at United. . .like the other Ronaldo, a move could change everything. Recall Bobby Robson saying the same to the other Ronaldo. Basically, he said you've got everything at your feet, the fans love you and you're playing for a huge club. Why risk it all?
 
RedPhil1957 said:
you sound like one of the tabloids
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eh? Ronaldo has said or done nothing so far to warrant my love again other than being forced to stay at united. He simply had no other option(thanks to Fergie and Gill). He would've had some of my respect if he acted like a man and stayed on his word instead of being an opportunistic cnut.
 
ThatOldRedMagic said:
Awesome! I can't wait; 'I am announcing that I shall be appointing my trusty Ford Mondeo as Pro-consul.'

Caligula! Remember that Suetonius informs us in 'The Twelve Caesars' that one of Gaius' first acts (Caligula was just his nickname, meaning ;little boots;) on becoming Emperor was to drive the spintriae (male prostitutes) out of the city.

The potential is vast...
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I like the fact that he *cough* loved his sisters.

Incest? what's wrong with that?
 
Dippersripper said:
eh? Ronaldo has said or done nothing so far to warrant my love again other than being forced to stay at united. He simply had no other option(thanks to Fergie). He would've had some of my respect if he acted like a man and stayed on his word instead of being an opportunistic cnut.
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reddev07 said:
I am not so sure. I really think for as long as SAF is here or for as long as SAF is here and wants Ronaldo here, he will be here. The man is a genius at keeping players, even when they want out. I think it also depends on how we do next season. If Ronaldo has an average season, failing to win any individual awards and we don't win any major trophies, Ronaldo might want to stay another season to go out on a better note. Also, don't forget Calderon might not be RM president then and the new president might not be so keen on buying Ronaldo.
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...good point about SAF....have never seen any player get the better of the great man....its not a coincidence SAF is the greatest manager of All Time....
 
ThatOldRedMagic said:
So los Meringues fail to get Ronnie, very possibly lose Robinho, fail to prepare for sensible signings this summer, (having indulged themselves exclusively in an orgy of Ronanism, which as any fule *** makes you blind), thus fail to qualify for the CL and he wants to exchange a place in the most exciting young team in the world for a spell in the UEFA cup? Well I suppose that would at least be something new to him.
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OK mods - I'm quoting myself here to ask why my attempt to quote Molesworth in Back in the Jug Agane, Whiz for Atoms etc will not suksedd (sorry, couldn't resist), and when I typed his characteristic phrase 'as any fule k-n-o' the second word gets asterisked out? I mean every four letter bit of good old Anglo Saxon gets through, but not Nigel Molesworth'd harmless phrase from a series of children's books. What's going on? Is it a murderous incantation in Hindi or something?
 
The hating and "cnut" calling apart, I really don't want any player forced to be at the club.

I he does want to go so badly, we must cash in. Its obvious that a player who desperately wants out is detrimental to the team.

However, Fergie is probably the best judge of the situation, so if he
is ready to keep him, then the situation might not be as bad as the press want us to believe.
 
RapidRed said:
The hating and "cnut" calling apart, I really don't want any player forced to be at the club.

I he does want to go so badly, we must cash in. Its obvious that a player who desperately wants out is detrimental to the team.

However, Fergie is probably the best judge of the situation, so if he
is ready to keep him, then the situation might not be as bad as the press want us to believe.
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Good evening Miss Pollard...
 
RapidRed said:
Its obvious that a player who desperately wants out is detrimental to the team.
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obvious, eh? how detrimental was he to the team when he wanted to leave 2 years ago to make his dream move to spain and we ended up winning a EC cup and two league titles. :confused:
 
ThatOldRedMagic said:
OK mods - I'm quoting myself here to ask why my attempt to quote Molesworth in Back in the Jug Agane, Whiz for Atoms etc will not suksedd (sorry, couldn't resist), and when I typed his characteristic phrase 'as any fule k-n-o' the second word gets asterisked out? I mean every four letter bit of good old Anglo Saxon gets through, but not Nigel Molesworth'd harmless phrase from a series of children's books. What's going on? Is it a murderous incantation in Hindi or something?
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Text-speak abbrev. Blotted out.
 
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