ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

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Brad said:
I'm confused now. Is this the same interview where it was translated that only God knew where he'd be next season and all that? Because some of the comments here don't sound all that compatible with some of the comments from that :confused:

I'm glad he's saying these kind of things you talk about there Sults. Maybe the lad isn't thick as pig shit after all. The long squirm back to Manchester begins...
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Yes, but the press cherry picked the controversial, non commital bits and didn't report anything that suggests he's going to be at United.
 
ronnie's motiviation on the pitch is never in question. he was always going to come back 100% behind the cause if he was forced to stay.

its clear that he does want to leave, and will do so sometime in the future.

i think this whole situation was blown out of proportion by many people because it was a simple situation that ronnie wants to go, but he's ok with staying if united are willing to keep him and him running his contract down.

i've always maintained that after teh 2010 world cup, he'll part ways.

i would be upset if a player wanted to leave and then proceeded to sulk or say 'i'll put in own goals' or something to that extent. it's always been clear that ronnie is too driven to have that happen, so no harm done, from my point of view.
 
VoetbalWizard said:
ronnie's motiviation on the pitch is never in question. he was always going to come back 100% behind the cause if he was forced to stay.

its clear that he does want to leave, and will do so sometime in the future.

i think this whole situation was blown out of proportion by many people because it was a simple situation that ronnie wants to go, but he's ok with staying if united are willing to keep him and him running his contract down.

i've always maintained that after teh 2010 world cup, he'll part ways.

i would be upset if a player wanted to leave and then proceeded to sulk or say 'i'll put in own goals' or something to that extent. it's always been clear that ronnie is too driven to have that happen, so no harm done, from my point of view.
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I want him to win the big awards to show the world we have the best here and it'd be great for United. I'm not sure about 2010 but clearly by then he'd have to have signed a new contract extension - so it's a possibility
 
VoetbalWizard said:
ronnie's motiviation on the pitch is never in question. he was always going to come back 100% behind the cause if he was forced to stay.

its clear that he does want to leave, and will do so sometime in the future.

i think this whole situation was blown out of proportion by many people because it was a simple situation that ronnie wants to go, but he's ok with staying if united are willing to keep him and him running his contract down.

i've always maintained that after teh 2010 world cup, he'll part ways.

i would be upset if a player wanted to leave and then proceeded to sulk or say 'i'll put in own goals' or something to that extent. it's always been clear that ronnie is too driven to have that happen, so no harm done, from my point of view.
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I think as well Real have put serious pressure on him and suggested that it's now or never and he's not clevere enough to realise that's nads.
 
Sultan said:
Here's what I have just heard from SSN.

"I am always motivated regardless of what team I play for"

'Wants more trophies with United'

"We had a great season last year, but can always better last seasons achievements."

"Alex is a formidable man"

"Blatters slave remarks were misinterpreted."

Not exact words. Typing whilst listening.
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Feck me. These are probably the most the directly relevent and unambigious quotes from Ronaldo over the whole summer.

I know that us United fans are always far too quick to cry "ABU" but can someone please explain why even the (allegedly) reputable broad-sheets have completely ignored this stuff? :confused:
 
Sultan said:
Here's what I have just heard from SSN.

"I am always motivated regardless of what team I play for"

'Wants more trophies with United'

"We had a great season last year, but can always better last seasons achievements."

"Alex is a formidable man"

"Blatters slave remarks were misinterpreted."

Not exact words. Typing whilst listening.
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nice one Sultan,

the media taking things out of context to sell more paper and get the desired reaction from the fans, no wonder the rest of his interview pops up after the bullshit slave and blatter stories were sold and reacted to. fecking typical.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Feck me. These are probably the most the directly relevent and unambigious quotes from Ronaldo over the whole summer.

I know that us United fans are always far too quick to cry "ABU" but can someone please explain why even the (allegedly) reputable broad-sheets have completely ignored this stuff? :confused:
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My guess is that they hadn't seen the full clip. As we all know this forum is now famous, so the journos looking for a bit of news logged on to here, saw the translation that was posted a few pages back and copied that. They obviously didn't realise it wasn't the full clip but then to be fair nobody really did. Each paper then copied each other. I have a bad feeling they will just ignore all the new stuff which we found out from SSN today :rolleyes:
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Feck me. These are probably the most the directly relevent and unambigious quotes from Ronaldo over the whole summer.

I know that us United fans are always far too quick to cry "ABU" but can someone please explain why even the (allegedly) reputable broad-sheets have completely ignored this stuff? :confused:
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my guess would be sensationalism tactics and their #1 goal of selling news, the more controversial and bullshit the better as long as it sells well and gets the attention. It's also easy to print the rest of the interview later and try to act objective by not entirely leaving everthing out. and there's always the ABU factor present, especially when you consider he was the hate-figure in England and the 'winker responsible for England's demise in 06'.
 
reddev07 said:
My guess is that they hadn't seen the full clip. As we all know this forum is now famous, so the journos looking for a bit of news logged on to here, saw the translation that was posted a few pages back and copied that. They obviously didn't realise it wasn't the full clip but then to be fair nobody really did. Each paper then copied each other. I have a bad feeling they will just ignore all the new stuff which we found out from SSN today :rolleyes:
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It's fecking diabolical journalism isn't it.
 
Brad said:
I'm confused now. Is this the same interview where it was translated that only God knew where he'd be next season and all that? Because some of the comments here don't sound all that compatible with some of the comments from that :confused:

I'm glad he's saying these kind of things you talk about there Sults. Maybe the lad isn't thick as pig shit after all. The long squirm back to Manchester begins...
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It's the same interview with ESPN Deportes. The only bit we've seen previously is the final couple of minutes which they were using as a trailer to the full interview. Presumably they only sold to Sky after they'd aired the full interview themselves. Given the channel and its market they used the bits they thought would attract viewers (and mess with our heads) as the trailer.

As to why the press have only seen the trailer. I guess either they didn't bother to phone ESPN Deportes and ask for the rest of it or they wouldn't pay for the rest of it. In any case it's in their interests to drag stories out one sentence at a time.
 
Sultan said:
Here's what I have just heard from SSN.

"I am always motivated regardless of what team I play for"

'Wants more trophies with United'

"We had a great season last year, but can always better last seasons achievements."

"Alex is a formidable man"

"Blatters slave remarks were misinterpreted."

Not exact words. Typing whilst listening.
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Damn right.
 
Typical back tracking.

Id have been a lot happier with these comments had they been said before SAF's meeting. It's clear after United flatly refusing to sell him, he has very few options but to try and win back some dignity.
 
Brad said:
I believe it was actually you that just tried to play that card. But no matter

Gabriel Heinze did quite a lot for us. He helped us win the league title. Do you still love and respect him the same way you do Ronaldo?

People aren't responding to the bullshit spouted in the media in here. They are naturally hyper critical of anything in the press, given the normal amount of shit written about United. What they're responding too is Ronaldos own observable actions and silences. He's likened this club to being his slavemasters, despite Ferguson stating uncategorically yesterday he would be staying at United, he STILL gives an interview which has been posted in this thread, filmed and translated, where he makes it abundantly clear he'd be happy playing for Madrid this season. The only reason to say such a thing now, when everything had been settled, is because he's pushing for the move

Now when people constantly tell me Ronaldo has done no wrong, we should appreciate all that he's done for us, damn right I don't respect their opinion. I question their loyalties. I question what United means to them, and why they're 'supporting' the club

I have an ongoing problem with the guy because he continues to do things which I think are quite disgraceful. And don't for a second believe I'm in the minority. It's you thats out of step mate
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Probably the best post on here. Well said, Brad.
 
Sultan said:
Typical back tracking.

Id have been a lot happier with these comments had they been said before SAF's meeting. It's clear after United flatly refusing to sell him, he has very few options but to try win back some dignity.
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I think Calderon and co's tactics in trying to get Ronaldo to force a move coupled with his own desire to play in Spain were the reason for him staying ambiguous for so long. I think he genuinely believed Real would table a massive bid for him which United would consider, and so he was being led on as those fascist fecks never even made a formal offer, just did their best to make Ronnie's acts and relationship reach a point where it'd be very easy for them to get him.
 
reddevilcanada said:
I think Calderon and co's tactics in trying to get Ronaldo to force a move coupled with his own desire to play in Spain were the reason for him staying ambiguous for so long. I think he genuinely believed Real would table a massive bid for him which United would consider, and so he was being led on as those fascist fecks never even made a formal offer, just did their best to make Ronnie's acts and relationship reach a point where it'd be very easy for them to get him.
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He should then simply sack his advisers for spoiling a wonderful relationship with the United fans.
 
Sultan said:
He should then simply sack his advisers for spoiling a wonderful relationship with the United fans.
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that and hopefully realize what kind of hypocrites those bastards at the Bernabeu are. I bet Mendes is pretty gutted that he won't be making a shit load of money from a Ronaldo transfer any time soon, Real on the other hand will keep their propaganda machines, marca and AS working as always.
 
reddevilcanada said:
I think Bahama will be very relieved when he next logs in. where is he btw?
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In bed I imagine


Derek Brown said:
Probably the best post on here. Well said, Brad.
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Too late chum - Brad has finally seen the light

reddevilcanada said:
that and hopefully realize what kind of hypocrites those bastards at the Bernabeu are. I bet Mendes is pretty gutted that he won't be making a shit load of money from a Ronaldo transfer any time soon, Real on the other hand will keep their propaganda machines, marca and AS working as always.
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Mendes, as I've pointed out before, is the key to much of this
 
I think Real would have made a deal of their own with Mendes if he could engineer a move away, but the fact that Ronaldo still has 4 years left on his contract made it very difficult for that to happen.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
By all accounts, Mendes wanted him to stay put. Apparently, the way the deal with United was structured, he stood to earn more money, if Ronaldo didn't go to Real Madrid.
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Mendes was allegedly worried that it would be his last big payday out of Ronaldo if Ron moved - because Ron might meet a new agent with bigger, better contracts and a friendlier ride with the media. He was also allegedly worried that if he screwed with United over Ron, then he wouldn't be making any more money out of United.

The flipside was that it is a potentially awfully big payday, and it might even raise his status in the agent game.

No idea if any of that's true, but whatever the outcome I doubt we'll be seeing him struggling to find cash for his next Armani.
 
Sultan said:
Here's what I have just heard from SSN.

"I am always motivated regardless of what team I play for"

'Wants more trophies with United'

"We had a great season last year, but can always better last seasons achievements."

"Alex is a formidable man"

"Blatters slave remarks were misinterpreted."

Not exact words. Typing whilst listening.
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See guys, after all these statments in the interview and yet the headlines in the papers were :


BahamaRed said:
Ronaldo remains coy on United future but denies money is a factor
The Guardian

Ron won't commit to Man Utd
The Sun

Cristiano Ronaldo saga continues as he refuses to confirm Alex Ferguson's comments
By Tim Rich and Jeremy Wilson
Telegraph


United chief Gill calls for show of loyalty from Christiano
The Star

Evasive Ronaldo refuses to commit future to United
Irish Examiner

Stroppy Ronaldo rebuffs Fergie and refuses to commit his future to Man United
By Sportsmail Reporter Last updated at 6:05 PM on 20th July 2008
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See how negative the media are? This is exactly what I meant when I said we know too little to be turning on Ronaldo. You're reacting exactly how the media want you to.
 
VII said:
See guys, after all these statments in the interview and yet the headlines in the papers were :





See how negative the media are? This is exactly what I meant when I said we know too little to be turning on Ronaldo. You're reacting exactly how the media want you to.
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You're probably doing the same right now. He said Blatter's comments are taken out of context, not his.
 
VII said:
See guys, after all these statments in the interview and yet the headlines in the papers were :





See how negative the media are? This is exactly what I meant when I said we know too little to be turning on Ronaldo. You're reacting exactly how the media want you to.
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Yup.

Baaahhh....
 
ThatOldRedMagic said:
At this rate you'll be the last muppet to remain in denial. Congratulations...
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I'm not the muppet here, its people who did not believe in the original Ronaldo interview until they saw it themselves licking his arse again without even reading his current one properly or considering the circumstances in which he changed his stance.
 
Reading between the lines Ronaldo did genuinely want to go to Madrid - he just never realised SAF was just as determined for him to remain.

Here's what SAF said:

"The meeting went well - I think we both put across our points of view - where we stand and where the player stands.

"I can say he'll be a Manchester United player next season. That's our stance - he won't be sold."

Asked why he had not commented on the matter until now, Ferguson replied: "It's not a difficult position. I was on my holiday and I was not going to interrupt my holiday, believe me.
"I wasn't panicked because the player is under contract so the strength and the rights are with Manchester United.
 
I don't think there's a doubt Ronaldo wanted to move at some point, didn't he reportedly say that if the figures about Madrid's 100 mil offer and his own wages were true and that if United were OK and considered the offer, that he'd be OK as well? That marca story of course turned out to be BS again as Real never made an offer, but it clearly showed Ronaldo believed Real were prepared to go to those lengths to get him, and that's only one instance of the BS that's been printed by marca in order to persuade Ronnie to stay ambiguous.
 
“I haven’t spoken to Cristiano in a few days but we’re friends and have been in touch,” said Queiroz. “Do I expect him to stay? As far as I know, I don’t expect things to change but that’s a question that needs to be addressed to the club. Would I advise him to stay for one more season? When I talk to players my advice is between me and them. I will not express my opinion in a public way.”

http://therepublikofmancunia.com/portugal-boss-sways-ronnie-in-right-directionfor-one-season/
 
ThatOldRedMagic said:
Yup.

Baaahhh....
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So one interview being horribly twisted and getting everyone here riled up and angry with him again, then being shown to actually be a positive interview for us, doesn't remotely make you wonder how many of the other comments he has made in the press were equally twisted?

Like the Blatter interview. I asked this question way back and don't think I got an answer. So far in this entire thread I've seen a grand total of one person say that they saw Blatter's interview themselves and understood it. And guess what? They said the media somewhat twisted that as well, as he was first talking about the slavery and it wasn't until later, after he was specifically asked about Ronaldo, said that Man Utd and Madrid should sit down and work it out themselves. He also said they should work it out so that Ronaldo could move if he wanted to, but never said anything about Ronaldo being a slave. Now if anyone else actualy saw and understood the inverview themselves, please give your take on it. Because if that is how it happene, then obviously Blatter's comments were taken out of context, which obviously then took Ronaldo's 'I agree with Blatter' comment also out of context. He was either talking about slavery in football in general, or the comment about Man Utd and Real Madrid should work it out. Either way, hardly saying that he felt like a slave.

Obviously, he would quite like to move. But whenever asked about his future, he'd say things like he didn't know the future, or that it was up to Man Utd and Real Madrid to work it out. He constantly tried to keep himself out of it, as he didn't want to burn his bridges with us when he would probably be staying here, but didn't want to piss Real Madrid off and put a future move in jeopardy. Unfortunately, that stance of saying very little also allowed the media to make up literally thousands of stories and report his few comments in many different ways.
 
bbest said:
“I haven’t spoken to Cristiano in a few days but we’re friends and have been in touch,” said Queiroz. “Do I expect him to stay? As far as I know, I don’t expect things to change but that’s a question that needs to be addressed to the club. Would I advise him to stay for one more season? When I talk to players my advice is between me and them. I will not express my opinion in a public way.”

http://therepublikofmancunia.com/portugal-boss-sways-ronnie-in-right-directionfor-one-season/
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The crux of the interview.

Seems in line with the recent revelations from the rest of the ESPN Deportes interview (not to mention the most relevant and important parts as well) from SSN posted by Sults.
 
reddevilcanada said:
I don't think there's a doubt Ronaldo wanted to move at some point, didn't he reportedly say that if the figures about Madrid's 100 mil offer and his own wages were true and that if United were OK and considered the offer, that he'd be OK as well? That marca story of course turned out to be BS again as Real never made an offer, but it clearly showed Ronaldo believed Real were prepared to go to those lengths to get him, and that's only one instance of the BS that's been printed by marca in order to persuade Ronnie to stay ambiguous.
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I don't think he needed to be told to stay ambiguous. He has been since the Euros. His position hasn't changed. Come up with the goodies i.e. large amounts that everone's happy with and I'll be off. If not, feck off.
It started to look a wind up the day after the Euros finished, when people - Calderon, Scolari - started to back track and delay. No bid and no transfer request, in spite of the bullshit press that had most fools on 'ere believing them. I've been consistent for 6 weeks. It's all bollocks. Madrid aint got the money and have been reliant on Ronnie putting in a request which he was never going to do. But instead of thinking things through, it's all, 'He' a cnut, sell 'im!' Pathetic.
 
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