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Found this an amusing thought.....

What will be the first thing Ronaldo’s Manchester United team-mates say to him if he rejoins the club in SIX WORDS!

As Mr Comfort always says: Long-winded people are boring, and writing full sentences is for chumps. Instead of writing us a novel, tell us what C-Ron’s team-mates will say to the winger if he returns to Man United next season after a summer of turmoil. You have just SIX words to make your argument to the COS commentariat. Sound easy? Give it a go.

Real Madrid midfielder Wesley Sneijder has made it clear that the Spanish champions do not need Cristiano Ronaldo as he will “disrupt” the squad next season. Better yet, he said a potential move for C-Ron and his big wages could cause a dressing room revolt! Wow, who wouldn’t pay to see that? With that in mind, it got us wondering how exactly Man United players feel about the whole transfer saga. Will Sir Alex and his team-mates accept the winger back 110%? Or will the bad blood be there from the start?
Let us know what you think Ronaldo’s team-mates would say to him if he showed up at practice later this summer after almost burning the club for Madrid? Be concise and let us know in SIX words!


{ 20 comments… read them below or add one }
1 Malcolm 07.17.08 at 3:42 pm Enjoy warming the bench Mr Ronaldo!

2 Stuart 07.17.08 at 3:44 pm Get ready for Sir Alex’s Hairdryer!

3 don 07.17.08 at 4:02 pm Im not passing to you, twat!

4 SupaCrazy 07.17.08 at 4:06 pm How many own goals *** year

5 L.F.C 07.17.08 at 4:16 pm What the feck was that about?

6 rotimi 07.17.08 at 4:18 pm now we wont tolerate your mistakes

7 Bob Carolgees 07.17.08 at 4:23 pm Get your head outta Ramons Arse

8 DG 07.17.08 at 4:24 pm Go and F*** off you c***

9 daniel07.17.08 at 4:57 pm we will forgive him cos forgiveness is the major thing in life been some one love in heart he is young he has nobody to advice so we forgive him pls manutd fan forgive him he is still young

10 BEN07.17.08 at 5:03 pm ALL RATS DESERT A SINKING SHIP

11 Meh 07.17.08 at 5:04 pm You best do good or DIE!

12 MANURE 07.17.08 at 5:08 pm ** Welcome… We forgive u…

13 MANURE 07.17.08 at 5:08 pm ** t true son of MANwhores…

14 MANURE 07.17.08 at 5:10 pm We Love twats like u…

15 Red Devil - J 07.17.08 at 5:42 pm Im Gunna Take Him Out In Training Gaffa, The C***…. Says “Wayne Rooney”
Go Ahead Wayne
Already Forgave The Mug Once….. Maybe Twice Now Only If He Comes Out And Make An Public Apology….Knob

16 MG 07.17.08 at 5:51 pm To be or not to be?

17 Jay 07.17.08 at 5:54 pm F*ck-off you stupid Portuguese c*nt

18 Kenneth 07.17.08 at 7:24 pm Welcome back, now dive some more.

19 william johansson 07.17.08 at 8:03 pm make yourself at home cristiano ronaldo

20 Roge "CQ" 07.17.08 at 8:20 pm Did you hear Quaresma is coming?


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News?!

The Spanish/Portuguese press are reporting that SAF met Ronaldo this week (Monday) in Lisbon.

No news?!

"Nothing was ruled out" say the Spanish press, not even the option of a December move.

:lol::lol::lol:

1000 pages?
3000000 views?
 
why should he be allowed to leave?

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Because we're against slavery?

Seriously, that's a ridiculous thing to say. He's still got four years left on his contract. . .and is the focal point of an excellent team, which is why Fergie doesn't want to sell.(obviously). Keano's still bitter, which is plain to see. I was totally against the way he slated the team in public. That stuff's for behind close doors. I don't think it was a coincidence that we improved when he left. If anything Fergie was too loyal to Keano, by starting him every week, even when it was clear his knees were gone.
 
Found this an amusing thought.....

What will be the first thing Ronaldo’s Manchester United team-mates say to him if he rejoins the club in SIX WORDS!


9 daniel07.17.08 at 4:57 pm we will forgive him cos forgiveness is the major thing in life been some one love in heart he is young he has nobody to advice so we forgive him pls manutd fan forgive him he is still young

This man is an idiot.
 
cnuts, stop bashing Roy Keane.....

:eek: all it takes is one slant from the media and years of service is forgotten. Keane bashers you are scum.

Roy Keane has warned his Premier League counterparts that loyalty works both ways amid the rumbling row over Real Madrid's pursuit of Cristiano Ronaldo.

The Manchester United midfielder's future has been the subject of fevered speculation all summer, with the Old Trafford club's furious response to Real's interest sparking FIFA president Sepp Blatter's slavery comments last week.

However, while Sunderland boss Keane has some sympathy with clubs whose players are being targeted by predators, he insists they are themselves sometimes guilty of treating players like 'pieces of meat'.

He said: 'I don't really know what is going on at United with Ronaldo and I wouldn't like to comment on it, but there have been other cases and other situations.
'I do believe, generally speaking, it works both ways. Players have been accused of being under contract and asking to leave - there have been cases over the last few years where players have refused to play.

'There was a player who went on strike a few years ago at Forest - did Mr (Pierre) van Hooijdonk go on strike?

'Maybe that's a bit to the extreme, don't get me wrong, but you talk about contracts - what does a contract mean?

'If a player wants to leave, all he has to do is come in every day, not train with the right attitude and I guarantee you that would p*** any manager off, so there are ways of doing it.

'But on the other hand, if the club want to get rid of you and you have got a two-year contract, they will get rid of you.

'I know some top players who have been forced to train with the reserves and do this and do that, so it works both ways.

'Clubs have got to be very careful when they start questioning players' loyalty because when clubs want to get rid of you, they get rid of you.

'I am 50-50. I am the manager of a football club now, but it only seems like yesterday I was playing.

'But loyalty - that word is used in football far too often. Some people talk about it, but they actually don't practice it.

'I don't think there's much loyalty left in football, unfortunately, from my own experiences.'

Keane diplomatically declined the opportunity to elaborate, although he has spoken in the past about his disappointment at the way his departure from Old Trafford was handled initially.

But he admitted he would not stand in the way of a player who wanted to leave his club, provided the deal was right for his employers.

He said: 'If a player wants to move and go on to better things - I am talking about any player - then I would say, 'Go for it' because when a club are finished with you, they get rid of you.

'Forget about 'this club's being loyal to players' and all this carry on, it works both ways.

'If a player came to see me and said, 'look, I have got a better opportunity' and we got a good deal, I would say 'good luck'.

'Clubs buy and sell players. Clubs sell players sometimes like a piece of meat, so if a player want so to go and better himself, good luck to him.

'When clubs are finished with you, it can happen very, very quickly.

'This word 'loyalty' is thrown about far too easily and some people haven't got a clue what the word means.'
 
Keano is fecking spot on as always. Ronaldo should be and will be allowed to leave, but only if Real meets our asking price.

Not sure thats what he said to be honest. It works both ways was the gist....i.e. dont slaughter ronaldo just cos he wants to leave because the club is just as likely to ditch him when he is no longer producing...its 50-50....see ronaldinho's fall from grace as an example
 
Keane is absolutely spot on.

Clubs are as disloyal to players as players are to clubs.

Look at how Ruud was treated for his little spat, ironically with Ronaldo.

If a players contract can be deemed worthless by the clubs then the same has to apply the other way around.

Clubs cannot ask for loyalty from players when it suits then offload them at the drop of a hat.

And btw, anyone who slags Keane off is a prize A1 pillock.

Alongside Cantona, theres not many players I wouldnt have a bad word said against them. Keane happens to be one of them..
 
Keane is absolutely spot on.

Clubs are as disloyal to players as players are to clubs.

Look at how Ruud was treated for his little spat, ironically with Ronaldo.

If a players contract can be deemed worthless by the clubs then the same has to apply the other way around.

Clubs cannot ask for loyalty from players when it suits then offload them at the drop of a hat.

And btw, anyone who slags Keane off is a prize A1 pillock.

Alongside Cantona, theres not many players I wouldnt have a bad word said against them. Keane happens to be one of them..

very well said....i'd have used stam as the ultimate example...great service...then bam...fergie thinks he's dropped a level (wrongly) and he's out the door before he knows it,.

I remember keano coming out at the time saying it was shocking and players where treated like meat. I think that incident shocked him. Stam was a great player for us and in the blink of an eye he was gone.

Keano's own departure is another case in point. You'd have to be out your mind to think that he'd have been turfed out for that rant were he still in his prime. The club decided he wasnt a valuable enough asset anymore so let him go. Sad end for one of our greatest servants so of course he's got a bloody point!!

Anyone slagging keane needs their heads tested..how can you be calling him a wanker and such like?? Crazy. Everyone always carps on about no one being bigger than the club and they are right in a sense but its the people who make the club!! Characters like keano who have helped make the club what it is ffs.

it was very telling in one interview when he left and he was asked if he felt he'd done wrong and he said

"all i did was what ive done for my whole manchester utd career except this time it wasnt deemed acceptable"

...for the simple reason the club no longer valued him on the pitch, so feel free to carry on keano. :devil::devil::devil: L-E-G-E-N-D
 
very well said....i'd have used stam as the ultimate example...great service...then bam...fergie thinks he's dropped a level (wrongly) and he's out the door before he knows it,.

I remember keano coming out at the time saying it was shocking and players where treated like meat. I think that incident shocked him. Stam was a great player for us and in the blink of an eye he was gone.

Keano's own departure is another case in point. You'd have to be out your mind to think that he'd have been turfed out for that rant were he still in his prime. The club decided he wasnt a valuable enough asset anymore so let him go. Sad end for one of our greatest servants so of course he's got a bloody point!!

Anyone slagging keane needs their heads tested..how can you be calling him a wanker and such like?? Crazy. Everyone always carps on about no one being bigger than the club and they are right in a sense but its the people who make the club!! Characters like keano who have helped make the club what it is ffs.

it was very telling in one interview when he left and he was asked if he felt he'd done wrong and he said

"all i did was what ive done for my whole manchester utd career except this time it wasnt deemed acceptable"

...for the simple reason the club no longer valued him on the pitch, so feel free to carry on keano. :devil::devil::devil: L-E-G-E-N-D


anyone who berates keane for yet again talking sense should be ashamed.

it it the same people who keane referred as the Prawn sandwich brigade.

I'd take Roy Keane back in an instant instead of a team of Ronaldos.

The guys is a red legend.

If Cantona was the king, Keano is a god!
 
The Times July 18, 2008

Ferguson ‘made date in Lisbon’ to persuade Ronaldo where future lies

Oliver Kay, James Ducker

At times this summer Sir Alex Ferguson has been accused of fiddling while his outstanding player burns his bridges at Manchester United, but last night came reports of a dash to Lisbon to persuade Cristiano Ronaldo to drop his ambition to join Real Madrid.

Unconfirmed reports from Portugal emerged while Ferguson was on a flight to South Africa for United’s pre-season tour, but what is certain is that the manager remains convinced that Ronaldo will stay at Old Trafford for at least another season.

According to RTP, the Portuguese television station, Ferguson met Ronaldo in Lisbon on Monday. That was known to have been the Scot’s intention, but at the weekend he encouraged the belief that a busy schedule had forced him to abandon that plan. Having long insisted that the debate over Ronaldo’s future was an irrelevance, Ferguson now appears to have risen to the challenge of battling to persuade him that his future lies in Manchester, rather than Madrid.

He may well succeed in doing so in the short term, but the likelihood remains that the Portugal forward will get his wish to join Real in the not-too-distant future.

An ankle injury, which required surgery 11 days ago, ruled Ronaldo out of the tour to South Africa — and potentially out of the opening two months of the new season — but it has not stopped the 23-year-old flying to Los Angeles this week to attend a sports awards ceremony.

While there, he is understood to be taking advice from Hollywood agents on how best to exploit his image, which he and his representatives believe can be best achieved by playing in the white shirt of Real, where Zinédine Zidane, David Beckham and others have raised their global profile.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/manchester_united/article4353920.ece
 
Not sure thats what he said to be honest. It works both ways was the gist....i.e. dont slaughter ronaldo just cos he wants to leave because the club is just as likely to ditch him when he is no longer producing...its 50-50....see ronaldinho's fall from grace as an example

I don't have any problem with Ronaldo leaving tbh, but he shouldldn't have agreed with blatter

Keane is absolutely spot on.

Clubs are as disloyal to players as players are to clubs.

Look at how Ruud was treated for his little spat, ironically with Ronaldo.

If a players contract can be deemed worthless by the clubs then the same has to apply the other way around.

Clubs cannot ask for loyalty from players when it suits then offload them at the drop of a hat.

And btw, anyone who slags Keane off is a prize A1 pillock.

Alongside Cantona, theres not many players I wouldnt have a bad word said against them. Keane happens to be one of them..

Well said fred. Keane is not the kind of person who will bend over and accept changes. He's always spot on.
 
While there, he is understood to be taking advice from Hollywood agents on how best to exploit his image, which he and his representatives believe can be best achieved by playing in the white shirt of Real, where Zinédine Zidane, David Beckham and others have raised their global profile.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/manchester_united/article4353920.ece
FFS, it was not Madrid that raised Beckham's profile, at least not in the U.S. He was well known in the football world, just as Ronaldo is now. Beckham became somewhat of a household name due to the movie "Bend It Like Beckham". That became a huge hit, mostly among non-football fans. And before anyone saw it, the question was naturally, "Who's Beckham?" And then the movie answered that.

Ronaldo is world renowned now. If he wants to follow Beckham's lead (the marketing, modeling, the A-list celebrity lifestyle), then he needs to raise his profile in the U.S. If he wants to raise his profile and exploit his image in the U.S., he needs to stay at United (moving to the MLS might still be a bit extreme unless that lifestyle is ALL he wanted). Being on a Spanish team that gets very little coverage on English-language sports networks is not going to raise his profile in this country. He needs United, he needs Nike's association with United. Otherwise, he will be one of the most well known soccer players everywhere in the world EXCEPT in the one country that has all the glitz and glamour that he craves to transition from athlete to super celeb.
 
FFS, it was not Madrid that raised Beckham's profile, at least not in the U.S. He was well known in the football world, just as Ronaldo is now. Beckham became somewhat of a household name due to the movie "Bend It Like Beckham". That became a huge hit, mostly among non-football fans. And before anyone saw it, the question was naturally, "Who's Beckham?" And then the movie answered that.

Ronaldo is world renowned now. If he wants to follow Beckham's lead (the marketing, modeling, the A-list celebrity lifestyle), then he needs to raise his profile in the U.S. If he wants to raise his profile and exploit his image in the U.S., he needs to stay at United (moving to the MLS might still be a bit extreme unless that lifestyle is ALL he wanted). Being on a Spanish team that gets very little coverage on English-language sports networks is not going to raise his profile in this country. He needs United, he needs Nike's association with United. Otherwise, he will be one of the most well known soccer players everywhere in the world EXCEPT in the one country that has all the glitz and glamour that he craves to transition from athlete to super celeb.

I agree with the first bit,

However, whats up with footballers wanting to become celebrities all of a sudden? I still don't understand it. Yes it increases your earning potential, but Beckham has turned into sort of a joke. Compare his career at United and his career after. All for the search of celebrity.

Isn't it pathetic that after winning the Champions League, Ronnie wants to move to a clearly inferior team all for the sake of raising his profile? I guess the football's out the window. In fact I find eerie that he's basically trying to copy Beckham's moves. That whole fashion, modelling, tabloid lifestyle...its almost as if he's trying too hard to be Beckham Mark II. Personally, I don't think he'll succeed for a number of reasons:
1) Whereas Becks stumbled across the celebrity lifestyle, Ronnie's dying for the attention. Almost as if he wants that recognition.
2) Ronnie lacks a proper grasp of the English language, which prevents his personality from shining through in interviews.
3) Class. Sorry, the boy lacks it. He's not humble, and sleeping with prostitutes really isn't the way to go if you want respect in households across the world. The major appeal of Becks is that he's a family man.
4) Arrogance. Cantona has it, but its more natural from him, almost like a supreme self-confidence. Becks dosn't come across as arrogant, despite his fame. Ronnie's arrogance is forced.

One question. Who was the last superstar Madrid developed? Casillas? They've tried it with Robinho, Higuain, Gago. Signing the best young S. Americans in hope they get the next Maradona/Pele, and dumping them for the next hot prospect.

Call it blind love, but I've always thought we're bigger than them. I remember earlier this decade, they were talking about copying our business plan and basically licking our arses. Its a strange obsession they have with us.
 
FFS, it was not Madrid that raised Beckham's profile, at least not in the U.S. He was well known in the football world, just as Ronaldo is now. Beckham became somewhat of a household name due to the movie "Bend It Like Beckham". That became a huge hit, mostly among non-football fans. And before anyone saw it, the question was naturally, "Who's Beckham?" And then the movie answered that.

Ronaldo is world renowned now. If he wants to follow Beckham's lead (the marketing, modeling, the A-list celebrity lifestyle), then he needs to raise his profile in the U.S. If he wants to raise his profile and exploit his image in the U.S., he needs to stay at United (moving to the MLS might still be a bit extreme unless that lifestyle is ALL he wanted). Being on a Spanish team that gets very little coverage on English-language sports networks is not going to raise his profile in this country. He needs United, he needs Nike's association with United. Otherwise, he will be one of the most well known soccer players everywhere in the world EXCEPT in the one country that has all the glitz and glamour that he craves to transition from athlete to super celeb.

The British media hasn't let facts that their readers should have a basic grasp of stand in the way of a 'good' twist to this story, so no need for them to let facts about the US market get in the way of a 'good' twist.
 
Keane is absolutely spot on.

Clubs are as disloyal to players as players are to clubs.

Look at how Ruud was treated for his little spat, ironically with Ronaldo.

If a players contract can be deemed worthless by the clubs then the same has to apply the other way around.

Clubs cannot ask for loyalty from players when it suits then offload them at the drop of a hat.

And btw, anyone who slags Keane off is a prize A1 pillock.

Alongside Cantona, theres not many players I wouldnt have a bad word said against them. Keane happens to be one of them..

As I said earlier Fred, a club is bound to keep a player even if they're performing well under standard, unless they either release them, or the player agrees terms with a club they'd like to sell too. No-one is saying its a one way street. People have a problem with the way Ronaldo has acted throughout this saga, its been unclassy and extremely disrespectful to the club, its employees, and its fans.

Its not a question of loyalty. United were never going to sell unless a ridiculous bid was made for Ronaldo, and even then only after Ronaldo had nigh made his position untenable. Now he's faced with the prospect of no club bidding enough for him, but having burnt his bridges at Old Trafford. I think Ronaldo will be here next season, but he'll had lost the supporters. Does your little arguement about it working both way justify his actions this summer? No. He's acted like a petulant, arrogant little shit, and he'll have to suffer the consequences

p.s Ruud asked for three transfer requests before he was eventually sold according to Fergie. He was also sold at a time of his choosing; not when Ruud initially wanted to go
 
Ferguson and Ronaldo meet as United aim to buy time

By Sam Wallace


The battle to keep Cristiano Ronaldo at Old Trafford may yet be won by Manchester United when it emerged last night that the Portuguese winger had a meeting with Sir Alex Ferguson in Lisbon at the start of last week. Sources in Portugal have indicated that Ronaldo, currently recovering from an ankle operation, met with the United manager to discuss his future.

It was widely denied that Ferguson had been to Portugal last week; in fact, the Scot was understood to have postponed a trip. However, it emerged that he did meet Ronaldo, although details of their conversation are not in the public domain. However, it would seem that the player's crass claim that he was a "slave" to his contract - made to a television crew last Thursday – came after the meeting with Ferguson. For that reason it would be too early to assume that Ferguson was able to obtain any promises from his star player that he would not continue agitating for a move to Real Madrid in the immediate future.
A more realistic view would be that Ferguson was prepared to sanction a transfer in one year's time. Either way, that the meeting took place would demonstrate that relations between Ferguson and his self-regarding prodigy are not quite as bad as had been thought.
It is understood that United officials were dubious about just how vital it was for Ronaldo to undergo ankle surgery this summer. Some assessments said that the player could have delayed for up to 12 months without any major detrimental effect on his performance.
Nevertheless, the United manager was in good spirits yesterday when he departed - without the injured Ronaldo - for the club's pre-season tour of South Africa and Nigeria. The assumption had been that Ferguson had not seen the player face-to-face since he departed to join up with Portugal's Euro 2008 squad in late May. Now at least it seems there has been contact which will give Ferguson some cause for relief as he heads off for the trip, which lasts until 28 July.
Ronaldo himself has been in Los Angeles over the last few days, a place he evidently believes suitable for his new profile. In the meantime United's long-term pursuit of Dimitar Berbatov is understood to be snagged on the problem that the European champions have offered Tottenham Hotspur a deal comprising cash plus a player that they value in total at around £25m. Tottenham have rejected the deal and told United that they want to be paid in cash for their star striker and that they value him at closer to £30m.
Ferguson raised the stakes yesterday in his attempts to sign the 27-year-old when he said that United had "made a bid for one player who would enhance us a great deal". He did not name Berbatov but he did not have to; United have identified the Bulgarian international as the man to fulfil the role of an out-and-out centre-forward. Roque Santa Cruz is regarded as a back-up target behind Berbatov.
United's approach of offering a combination of a player and money demonstrates a more parsimonious attitude to transfers than they have entertained in the recent past when they laid out big cash fees on signings such as Rio Ferdinand, Juan Sebastian Veron, Ruud Van Nistelrooy and Wayne Rooney. Tottenham are also trying the same approach and were understoodto have made a bid for David Bentley last night. Blackburn have said they would like Aaron Lennon plus cash for Bentley, but Lennon has told Spurs he is not interested in moving to Ewood Park.
It would seem that Spurs will have to offer cash for Bentley, which will make them just as determined to be paid in cash for Berbatov. The future of Robbie Keane remains unresolved with his deal to Liverpool still uncertain, but Spurs are confident of concluding deals to sell Younes Kaboul and Pascal Chimbonda.
There was no Owen Hargreaves on the United trip, he has suffered a recurrence of the knee problem tendinitis he suffered from last season. Having missed most of last September and October with the same problem, Hargreaves will stay in England for treatment. "It was apparent as soon as he came back to training," Ferguson said. "It is the same as last year. Some people get these things. Maybe restarting training on the firmish grounds brings it on, maybe it is just an inherent problem.
"We are trying to sort it out now with injections. That is what we did last November and it worked. Hopefully, these work and by the time we come back from South Africa he should be OK. Owen is not written off for the start of the season at all."
Ferguson said he regarded the Northern Ireland defender Jonny Evans as a straight replacement for Gerard Pique, sold back to Barcelona this summer. "We are back to the same numbers," he said. "If we got one more it would strengthen us further."
United play Kaizer Chiefs in Cape Town tomorrow and there is a reserve tam game at Oxford on 26 July for those left behind. Louis Saha, not thought to be the man offered as the makeweight in the Berbatov deal, is having treatment for an injury in France. "

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Seems to be more than just idle speculation on the trip, but there's lots of speculation about it's outcome.
 
As I said earlier Fred, a club is bound to keep a player even if they're performing well under standard, unless they either release them, or the player agrees terms with a club they'd like to sell too. No-one is saying its a one way street. People have a problem with the way Ronaldo has acted throughout this saga, its been unclassy and extremely disrespectful to the club, its employees, and its fans.

Its not a question of loyalty. United were never going to sell unless a ridiculous bid was made for Ronaldo, and even then only after Ronaldo had nigh made his position untenable. Now he's faced with the prospect of no club bidding enough for him, but having burnt his bridges at Old Trafford. I think Ronaldo will be here next season, but he'll had lost the supporters. Does your little arguement about it working both way justify his actions this summer? No. He's acted like a petulant, arrogant little shit, and he'll have to suffer the consequences

p.s Ruud asked for three transfer requests before he was eventually sold according to Fergie. He was also sold at a time of his choosing; not when Ruud initially wanted to go

The sad thing is how dramatically different many supporters have been in their attitudes towards Ronaldo compared to their attitudes towards Ruud in spite of the fact that Ruud was clearly affecting the team on the pitch itself.

Amazing what a little wink will do, and how fast the knives will fly out.

Has anyone else noticed that said little shit said about the Galaxy that "in the future, you never know"? Is this a part of his fiendish greasy plot to leave for Los Angeles, or the sign of an ego machine and a media whore?
 
However, it would seem that the player's crass claim that he was a "slave" to his contract - made to a television crew last Thursday – came after the meeting with Ferguson. For that reason it would be too early to assume that Ferguson was able to obtain any promises from his star player that he would not continue agitating for a move to Real Madrid in the immediate future.


I thought Ferguson was supposed to have met him this Monday according to the other papers. The slave comments were last week sometime.
 
However, it would seem that the player's crass claim that he was a "slave" to his contract - made to a television crew last Thursday – came after the meeting with Ferguson. For that reason it would be too early to assume that Ferguson was able to obtain any promises from his star player that he would not continue agitating for a move to Real Madrid in the immediate future.


I thought Ferguson was supposed to have met him this Monday according to the other papers. The slave comments were last week sometime.

That's what it looked like to me. The slave comments were late last week and then Ferguson arranged the meeting for this Monday, perhaps as a result of Ronaldo's comments.

The paper got the time line wrong so their assumptions about the lack of promises if based on the slave comments are also wrong.
 
Got it wrong is being generous.

The story would have no "twist" if the slave comments came before.

And even when you really take a closer look at the whole of the Blatter remarks, they are not what the media is having you believe that they are.
 
Just when did Ronaldo travel to the US then? Tuesday? Giving him about a full 24 hours rest before the ESPY show on Wednesday night.

As if.

Surprisingly, Mr Ronaldo did not discuss his travel plans with me :D
- nor indeed with the press who know about as much about what's really going on with him as anybody with a team of people with telephoto lenses.

However!

He went out for dinner with "men in suits" in LA on Tuesday night and then onto a club. He did the Awards bash on Wednesday afternoon and went out afterwards. He flew out from LA (to a destination that the telephoto lenses didn't capture) on Thursday. Personally I'd have done the Monday overnight flight as my oubound - and slept on the plane - I'm sure he can afford a decent seat.

And SAF didn't fly to SA until Thursday.

As for the Times article saying it was last week. I was reading the Spanish and Portuguese newspaper reports which all seemed to be triggered by a Portuguese TV report so the timing is suspect, but they all say that it was this Monday (after the Blatter remarks) or at the weekend (according to AS - which also said that Ronaldo had told SAF that he still wants to leave)
That was in AS:
http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/f...son-quiero-ir/dasftb/20080718dasdaiftb_39/Tes
I'll translate that one separately as it's an interesting (but sad) article.
 
The AS article I mentioned - translated/summarised (I hope fairly) by me - which appears to have the same basic story as that rumour that Mendes had been told that Ron could go anywhere except Madrid:

Cristiano to Ferguson: "I want to go to Madrid"
Face to face. There were accusations by both. But two things are clear. Cristiano wants to move to Madrid and Ferguson has told him that he can have a transfer to any club except Madrid. The two are at war and the Portuguese will not return to Manchester.

Ferguson and Cristiano Ronaldo have already met and the United coach knows that he wants to go. They have spoken and have said everything to face to face. The event was last weekend. In Sintra (near Lisbon), in a secret location to avoid the media (in fact the British press has published throughout the whole week that Ferguson had planned a trip to Lisbon, but it had been suspended).

At that meeting, Cristiano confirmed what everyone expected, that he wants to leave Manchester and that his dream now is to play in Madrid. He also recalled that he promised that he could leave United if they won titles. With the Champions and Premier Cristiano told him that he wanted to make the move.

Reproach. The player confessed that he only wants to return to Manchester to make the move, but that does not want to return to the discipline of the team. In addition, he said that all statements he has made have been because they had believed and hoped that the United would not make life impossible on the road to Madrid. Finally he complained about the threats that Ferguson made through the media ( "Rather than sell, we'd put him in the stands," according Glazer, the club owners).

Ferguson heard all the criticisms of his player and then showed a different side to what had been seen in Manchester. He said he was willing to sell him to any club except Madrid. After the conversation, Cristiano maintains that he doesn't want to go back to Manchester as they've nothing more to say.

They will have to return to speak when the team returns from South Africa because time is pressing and Cristiano wants to leave now. In Madrid, aware of everything, are more optimistic than ever and are now awaiting the Portuguese star.

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True/false?

Who knows - it's AS so the odds are on false/distorted.

Meanwhile someone on another board reckons he heard a radio interview with Ron in the US in which he said in response to a Madrid/Manchester question that, he'd be happy at either and that he was just keen to play football again.
 
The AS article I mentioned - translated/summarised (I hope fairly) by me - which appears to have the same basic story as that rumour that Mendes had been told that Ron could go anywhere except Madrid:

Cristiano to Ferguson: "I want to go to Madrid"
Face to face. There were accusations by both. But two things are clear. Cristiano wants to move to Madrid and Ferguson has told him that he can have a transfer to any club except Madrid. The two are at war and the Portuguese will not return to Manchester.

Ferguson and Cristiano Ronaldo have already met and the United coach knows that he wants to go. They have spoken and have said everything to face to face. The event was last weekend. In Sintra (near Lisbon), in a secret location to avoid the media (in fact the British press has published throughout the whole week that Ferguson had planned a trip to Lisbon, but it had been suspended).

At that meeting, Cristiano confirmed what everyone expected, that he wants to leave Manchester and that his dream now is to play in Madrid. He also recalled that he promised that he could leave United if they won titles. With the Champions and Premier Cristiano told him that he wanted to make the move.

Reproach. The player confessed that he only wants to return to Manchester to make the move, but that does not want to return to the discipline of the team. In addition, he said that all statements he has made have been because they had believed and hoped that the United would not make life impossible on the road to Madrid. Finally he complained about the threats that Ferguson made through the media ( "Rather than sell, we'd put him in the stands," according Glazer, the club owners).

Ferguson heard all the criticisms of his player and then showed a different side to what had been seen in Manchester. He said he was willing to sell him to any club except Madrid. After the conversation, Cristiano maintains that he doesn't want to go back to Manchester as they've nothing more to say.

They will have to return to speak when the team returns from South Africa because time is pressing and Cristiano wants to leave now. In Madrid, aware of everything, are more optimistic than ever and are now awaiting the Portuguese star.

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True/false?

Who knows - it's AS so the odds are on false/distorted.

Meanwhile someone on another board reckons he heard a radio interview with Ron in the US in which he said in response to a Madrid/Manchester question that, he'd be happy at either and that he was just keen to play football again.




I have always believed that to be the case. He would like to play in spain one day and if Madrid made an offer that United accepted he would happily go if not he will happily stay and that is why there has been no request to leave.
 
Calderon is a desperate man and will take desperate measures.Expect more revelations from Marca in the coming days.
 
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I have always believed that to be the case. He would like to play in spain one day and if Madrid made an offer that United accepted he would happily go if not he will happily stay and that is why there has been no request to leave.



Would like to believe that also.
 
Meanwhile someone on another board reckons he heard a radio interview with Ron in the US in which he said in response to a Madrid/Manchester question that, he'd be happy at either and that he was just keen to play football again.

If you look at the video at skysports' website, that part is clearly edited out! the video only gives you the part where he is keen to play football again, and after that its clearly cut and edited. Because if he did say that, its almost the end of the whole story.

http://www.skysports.com/video/0,20285,12606_3830237,00.html
 
It as been confirmed there was a meeting on Monday.Looks like he's staying which i said on page 2 all those years ago.
 
It seems Madrid wont admit they are chasing fireflies until the end.

The truth is they are still trying to fool their fans about the possibility of a deal that wont happen.
 
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