I will not give up convincing you guys that its more of a huge misunderstanding.
ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation
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I will not give up convincing you guys that its more of a huge misunderstanding.
That was said 3 weeks ago. He's still 'ere.
That's what the scousers said about Stevie G while they were burning his shirt.
i agree with much of this.
proper fans follow the team and back a manager which has brought unrivaled success. would a proper fans make our managers job even harder?, which is detrimental to the team.
i back ronaldo while he is a united player, because fergie does.
when he goes to real madrid, thats fine, was good while it lasted, great even.
the fact that he wants to play for the team he has supported since his childhood is only natural in my opinion. I am NOT going to slag off man utd players who want to leave even if iyts not a very nice way of doing it.
i just dont want to play into the hand of real madrids tactics.
i bet calderon and blatter have been sending him carfully selected excerpts of english media, forums and talk shows demonstrating just how hated he is and ungratfull of what he has done for us.. head games galore!
i am not old enough to fully remember george best and what actually happened with him,regarding his contract and failure to sign. but i would think if SAF was in charge the situation would have been completely different.
Becks is class.
no mate ... he is a cnut. Deal with it.
Good post! I think more people need to stop holding a grudge at Ronaldo like their married to him!! If he stays another season it should be a bonus to all us United fans but if he goes then, we just close that chapter and move on! There's too much things to think about in life than to be botheres how much a player loves United!
Where does this talk of Ronaldo's family wanting to go to Spain come from? Why would they? I have been to Madeira several times and it is a beautiful island with a great climate. Not too hot but mild all year and rain in the winter. Madeirans would find the climate in Madrid very harsh.
Last time I was there we took a taxi tour of the island and we were shown Ronaldo's birthplace (a concrete shack in the middle of nowhere) and the mansion he has bought for his mother in Funchal. We also saw the swish boutique he has bought for his sister. So why would they want to move to Spain? They are Madeiran first, Portugese second.
The taxi driver said that Ronaldo rarely visits Madeira now and this is because he has a swanky home in the town of Sintra on the Lisbon coast. And the rest of his family have apartments there so they can go whenever they want. This apparently is THE place to live if you are anybody in Portugal, its where the Moorish rulers and then the Christian kings had their palaces. So again, why would they want to move to a foreign country?
No I think the correct analogy might be that his family and numerous hangers on want Ronaldo to go to Madrid so he can earn even more money and because in their eyes real Madrid is the greatest football club in the world.
Well said yourself
The trouble is mate - he does want to leave - and he himself has been disrespectful to the club and its fans.
I stay.
I don't know the future.
Right now I cannot speak, we will see.
After the Euro's I will speak.
I dream.
It is upto the club what happens now.
No problem, I score a few goals they will sing again.
I dream but right now, my injury.
I agree.
Have we murderised him yet?
Or is he staying or something?
Updates pleaze m8?
Or is he staying or something?
Updates pleaze m8?
The saga continues.....
He's on a contract so he will probably stay.
Plus I don't see Real offering the kind of money it will take to even tempt United.
Right now, we just want Berbatov.....
Plus I don't see Real offering the kind of money it will take to even tempt United.
Right now, we just want Berbatov.....
I totally agree, Real have tried to woo the player, not United with huge offers, in hindsight that is what fecked them over. If they would have came up with 100 million offer before all of this shit, they probably could have got them, that said apparently they don't even have that type of money
Bryan Robson says he's staying.Maybe he supports Ronaldo and not United.
hows the weather
Guess we can lump Hargreaves in together with Ronnie...
Hargreaves to plead for early release as Bayern threaten to call Fifa
* Daniel Taylor
* The Guardian,
* Wednesday August 23, 2006
* Article history
Owen Hargreaves will today attempt to put his case for a move to Manchester United after Bayern Munich threatened to appeal to Fifa to force the Old Trafford club to end their pursuit of the England midfielder. Hargreaves and his advisors have arranged a press briefing in Munich this afternoon at which he is expected to both demand a move and criticise his current employers' persistent refusal to sanction one.
United's progress with the Canada-born player has ground to a halt in recent days with Bayern refusing to even discuss selling him. But Hargreaves, who still has four years left to run on his contract at the Allianz Arena, is now more determined than ever to move to Manchester.
Hargreaves was left out of Bayern's squad for the 2-1 Bundesliga defeat to Bochum on Sunday, officially because of a virus, and was then omitted for a friendly against Barcelona on Monday.
Bayern's determination to involve Fifa has been fuelled by reports of Hargreaves having face-to-face talks with Sir Alex Ferguson at United's training ground the morning after England's friendly against Greece. The saga could also have damaging repercussions for Hargreaves's standing at Bayern if he is forced to stay in Germany, with a notable hardening in the language used by the club's hierarchy.
Senior officials at Bayern say they feel let down by his behaviour and, in particular, his public declaration that he wanted to move to Old Trafford, despite having recently signed a contract extension. They have ordered him not to make any further comments and re-iterated that he will not get his way.
Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, Bayern's president, summed up that anger yesterday by saying United should now cease all interest in the 25-year-old. "Otherwise we will turn to Fifa," he told the Munich-based TZ newspaper. "The rules are that a club may contact a player only when the club holding his contract agrees to it."
United have run into trouble on this front before, most notably when they signed Ruud van Nistelrooy from PSV Eindhoven in April 2000. Of more immediate concern to Ferguson, however, is the fact that Bayern have given no indication to suggest their position might alter before the transfer deadline tomorrow week. Ferguson had been led to believe last week that there had been a breakthrough in the talks but Bayern seem to have decided they cannot afford to sell Hargreaves, even for £17m, in a summer that has already seen them lose Michael Ballack on a free transfer to Chelsea.
"We have told Manchester United that they should stop trying to tempt Hargreaves," said Rummenigge. "We are not Hamburg, who decided to sell Khalid Boulahrouz [to Chelsea] the moment they had an offer for him. We are FC Bayern Munich, and we don't give in to anybody. At this club, it is the employer who decides what happens, not the employee."
Uli Hoeness, Bayern's general manager, was equally vehement. "Bayern Munich will never be taken for a ride and become weak at the knees as soon as a certain level of money is mentioned," he said.
Alan Smith has ruled out the possibility of an early return to action for United. Smith came through his first public workout on Monday since his double leg-break at Liverpool in February, appearing for the first 66 minutes of a 7-2 reserve-team win over Preston North End.
Smith's return prompted discussion over the possibility of him making the bench for Saturday's Premiership match against Watford but the 25-year-old admits he is not yet ready. "Playing for the reserves is a step up from training and hopefully, in a few weeks' time I will have had some more reserve games and then be able to make the step up to the first team," said Smith.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2006/aug/23/newsstory.bayernmunich
Very similar to our situation. I'll admit even at the time I thought Hargreaves should have toned it down but I was bloody excited to be getting him I really didn't care. Plus I don't think he wanted to move here for more money or status, it was more deep-rooted than that. He still behaved like a prick to Munich, a club that did more for him than we did for Ronnie. Though one can say he wasn't really idolized in the way Ronnie is here, so maybe he thought he could leave quietly and there'd be no fuss, which probably would have happened if he had a shit World Cup. But him having a great WC meant Bayern would have looked liked idiots selling one of their star performers, hence the heavy resistance.
One thing that irks me about Ronnie was that when he was in the process of signing his contract, Madrid/Mijatovic were all over the media saying that they wanted to sign him, and instead of waiting to see what happened, he went ahead and signed! A year later he's crying about a move. At least when Hargreaves signed his contract we didn't show any interest, so he had no reason to stall. He probably figured we weren't interested.
Hargreaves to plead for early release as Bayern threaten to call Fifa
* Daniel Taylor
* The Guardian,
* Wednesday August 23, 2006
* Article history
Owen Hargreaves will today attempt to put his case for a move to Manchester United after Bayern Munich threatened to appeal to Fifa to force the Old Trafford club to end their pursuit of the England midfielder. Hargreaves and his advisors have arranged a press briefing in Munich this afternoon at which he is expected to both demand a move and criticise his current employers' persistent refusal to sanction one.
United's progress with the Canada-born player has ground to a halt in recent days with Bayern refusing to even discuss selling him. But Hargreaves, who still has four years left to run on his contract at the Allianz Arena, is now more determined than ever to move to Manchester.
Hargreaves was left out of Bayern's squad for the 2-1 Bundesliga defeat to Bochum on Sunday, officially because of a virus, and was then omitted for a friendly against Barcelona on Monday.
Bayern's determination to involve Fifa has been fuelled by reports of Hargreaves having face-to-face talks with Sir Alex Ferguson at United's training ground the morning after England's friendly against Greece. The saga could also have damaging repercussions for Hargreaves's standing at Bayern if he is forced to stay in Germany, with a notable hardening in the language used by the club's hierarchy.
Senior officials at Bayern say they feel let down by his behaviour and, in particular, his public declaration that he wanted to move to Old Trafford, despite having recently signed a contract extension. They have ordered him not to make any further comments and re-iterated that he will not get his way.
Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, Bayern's president, summed up that anger yesterday by saying United should now cease all interest in the 25-year-old. "Otherwise we will turn to Fifa," he told the Munich-based TZ newspaper. "The rules are that a club may contact a player only when the club holding his contract agrees to it."
United have run into trouble on this front before, most notably when they signed Ruud van Nistelrooy from PSV Eindhoven in April 2000. Of more immediate concern to Ferguson, however, is the fact that Bayern have given no indication to suggest their position might alter before the transfer deadline tomorrow week. Ferguson had been led to believe last week that there had been a breakthrough in the talks but Bayern seem to have decided they cannot afford to sell Hargreaves, even for £17m, in a summer that has already seen them lose Michael Ballack on a free transfer to Chelsea.
"We have told Manchester United that they should stop trying to tempt Hargreaves," said Rummenigge. "We are not Hamburg, who decided to sell Khalid Boulahrouz [to Chelsea] the moment they had an offer for him. We are FC Bayern Munich, and we don't give in to anybody. At this club, it is the employer who decides what happens, not the employee."
Uli Hoeness, Bayern's general manager, was equally vehement. "Bayern Munich will never be taken for a ride and become weak at the knees as soon as a certain level of money is mentioned," he said.
Alan Smith has ruled out the possibility of an early return to action for United. Smith came through his first public workout on Monday since his double leg-break at Liverpool in February, appearing for the first 66 minutes of a 7-2 reserve-team win over Preston North End.
Smith's return prompted discussion over the possibility of him making the bench for Saturday's Premiership match against Watford but the 25-year-old admits he is not yet ready. "Playing for the reserves is a step up from training and hopefully, in a few weeks' time I will have had some more reserve games and then be able to make the step up to the first team," said Smith.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2006/aug/23/newsstory.bayernmunich
Very similar to our situation. I'll admit even at the time I thought Hargreaves should have toned it down but I was bloody excited to be getting him I really didn't care. Plus I don't think he wanted to move here for more money or status, it was more deep-rooted than that. He still behaved like a prick to Munich, a club that did more for him than we did for Ronnie. Though one can say he wasn't really idolized in the way Ronnie is here, so maybe he thought he could leave quietly and there'd be no fuss, which probably would have happened if he had a shit World Cup. But him having a great WC meant Bayern would have looked liked idiots selling one of their star performers, hence the heavy resistance.
One thing that irks me about Ronnie was that when he was in the process of signing his contract, Madrid/Mijatovic were all over the media saying that they wanted to sign him, and instead of waiting to see what happened, he went ahead and signed! A year later he's crying about a move. At least when Hargreaves signed his contract we didn't show any interest, so he had no reason to stall. He probably figured we weren't interested.
Great article. Cuts through all the bullshit, media rubbish and hype and gets down to what has actually happened.
Robbo > Ronaldo
The thing is, it's not that he wants to leave. He wants to join Real Madrid. On the surface they make look the same, but once you dig a little deeper there is quite a difference. If he wanted to leave he'd be trying a lot harder to make it happen, putting in transfer requests and actually talking to the media a lot. Basically, he'd be upset about staying here and could cause trouble in the dressing room. Whereas the situation is actually more than he wants to join Real. That is something he'd like to do. But he also likes and respects Man Utd, and knows he has enjoyed his time here. So he's pretty much ignoring the media except for an odd quote here and there, letting us know that he'd like the move. But if it doesn't happen then he'll be back as soon as he's over the injury and working just as hard as he has the last two seasons. He knows that if it doesn't happen now he's still got a long career ahead of him.
Indeed. This childhood dream of playing for Madrid is what is luring him away, Can't imagine him wanting to leave for any other club than Real. The only solution to this is to blow up the Bernabau.
Indeed. This childhood dream of playing for Madrid is what is luring him away, Can't imagine him wanting to leave for any other club than Real. The only solution to this is to blow up the Bernabau.
If it's such a dream of his to play for madrid..why after the world cup did he mention Barcelona and not state a preference...
The only reason madrid are always mentioned is because they're the only nuts that won't shut up about it. It's annoying more then anything else reading how it was his dream. It weren't
But you know how madrid twist it. The fact is, there is no choice and madrid get all cocky saying it's their reputation. It ain't, it's the fact Barcelona aren't interested at the price and they won't go down the road of madrid because they have more class then that lot
Ronaldo signing that contract puts us in a very strong position, and means we would get a lot more for him if we decided to sell (which we wont). Whereas if he hadn't signed that contract I think he'd only have another two seasons, meaning we wouldn't really have any choice but to sell now before his price drastically dove.
Ronaldo doesn't want to feck us over. If he goes, which he would like to, he wants it to be with our best wishes as we get a massive amount of cash. He would've known when he signed that contract that he would want to move to Spain sometime during it. I'm sure at the time he didn't think it would be so soon, but he would've thought that he'd keep playing here until the end of the 08/09 or 09/10 season and then make the move while we could still get a good fee. That way he would win, Man Utd would win, and Real/Barca (whichever he moved to) would win.
Unfortunately Real made a big play at him now which he somewhat agreed with, and things have snowballed as Real got worse and worse, the media bullshit kept coming, turning the fans against him, which in turn encouraged the media to dig further into the gutter, causing Ronaldo to get a bit surer in thinking that now is the right time, and so on and so on as the cycle keeps going around with everyone turning on each other as the stories keep flying.
It's not Madrid in particular, it's more the La Liga. As such he'd be just as happy with a move to Barca.Indeed. This childhood dream of playing for Madrid is what is luring him away, Can't imagine him wanting to leave for any other club than Real. The only solution to this is to blow up the Bernabau.
He sees the La Liga as a better league than the Premiership. He would have had very little interest in the Premiership as he was growing up, at least compared to the interest in the La Liga and, to a lesser extent, the Serie A. Those leagues are culturely more like his own, and were at the time superior in performance.
Jeeez, the hype from Madrid is so much that even I've got convinced that his dream is to play for them ffs this is madness!
Football players should go to places to play football not for the culture. He is blind to think La Liga is better than the EPL. Have to agreee it would suit his diving crybaby ways much better than England would. Shame for him he's staying
Jeeez, the hype from Madrid is so much that even I've got convinced that his dream is to play for them ffs this is madness!
Football players should go to places to play football not for the culture. He is blind to think La Liga is better than the EPL. Have to agreee it would suit his diving crybaby ways much better than England would. Shame for him he's staying
it's cool. It just drives me up the wall. Paddy asked him and he said Benfica. No mention of Madrid. I just hate the way the media, and even madrid twist it. Ohhh he wants to play for us!!! Well no, again your the only feckers that use this tactics so there is no choice in this case
Indeed. This childhood dream of playing for Madrid is what is luring him away, Can't imagine him wanting to leave for any other club than Real. The only solution to this is to blow up the Bernabau.
be careful fella, or you may end up missing for 42 days with reason
Dont understand the thinking of that statement
Worry not, you're not the only one.
ther seems to me to be a lot of sense about this post, to me anyway.
Dont understand the thinking of that statement
allow me to possibly misguide you..
people who have embraced the thought of ronaldo staying have been accused by some posters of supporting ronaldo over man utd.
(i think)
be careful fella, or you may end up missing for 42 days with reason
I'm sure I'd have David Davis fighting my corner...
(I'm doomed)
That's about right. I got accused of having my head up Ronaldo's arse a week or two back because I 'defended' him. Either that or it was up my own arse. Wasn't completely sure.
its a mad world. and fans are a fickle bunch of morons. Its amazing
Alex Ferguson will not win another Champions League for this club.
LOL, read my post before you quote me out of context you moron!!
Normally agree with you gus, but not on this one. Most of the fans supported him through the Rooney saga and even this transfer saga until he opened his mouth a couple of days ago.
But lets assume he doesnt want to leave whats the crime in that??
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