certainly not a bad enough thing to turn on him...not like he'd be going to liverpool!!
ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation
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I just seconded your feelings with your tagline which is fitting.
But, he's agreed with bladder who said united should not treat footballers like slaves. Nobody would turn on him if he simply put a transfer request and calmly moved to madrid.
As many have already mentioned, if CNUT hadn't opened his mouth and said he agreed with that stupid Blatter statement, that he was treated like a slave, I would have had no problem with him wanting to leave us and go to Madrid.
I would have been dissapointed, but that's all.
I would have been dissapointed, but that's all.
there is another thread jason,
https://www.redcafe.net/f6/retaliation-against-fifa-210597/
it would be nice if you could construct a letter for people to copy and paste regarding syph bladder, with some no holds barred legal damming of the currupt cnut.
with spelling and grammar and everything.
Teenage love, doncha know?
Ronaldo lay-off confirmed
Portuguese winger facing three months on sidelines
Last updated: 13th July 2008
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Ronaldo: Three months of frustration
Cristiano Ronaldo is facing at least three months on the sidelines, according to the Portuguese national team physiotherapist.
The Manchester United wide man has endured a difficult summer as he has found himself in the centre of a transfer tug-of-war with Spanish suitors Real Madrid and his Old Trafford employers.
Ronaldo underwent surgery on his right ankle last Monday and now Portugal physiotherapist Antonio Gaspar has now confirmed the playmaker will not return to action before October.
"We are going to use everything that is possible to us and that will help him recover as quickly as possible," Gaspar told Spanish sports daily AS.
"But Cristiano Ronaldo will not be in an optimum state for the competition until 12 weeks are up.
Lengthy lay-off
"He is working very well and he is optimistic.
"These first four weeks he will do the rehabilitation work in my clinic. After the first month, the Manchester United doctors will carry out another exam."
Gaspar added: "I want it to be made very clear that I am only involved with Ronaldo's recuperation and that I am in permanent contact with the medical department at Manchester United, with the Dutchman Niek van Dijk [the specialist who performed the operation] and with [Portugal team doctor] Henrique Jones.
"Any other information or the medical aspect about his injury are only and exclusively the concerns of Manchester United."
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Portuguese winger facing three months on sidelines
Last updated: 13th July 2008
Re-live United's Champions League and Premier League Winning Season on this Superb DVD
Ronaldo: Three months of frustration
Cristiano Ronaldo is facing at least three months on the sidelines, according to the Portuguese national team physiotherapist.
The Manchester United wide man has endured a difficult summer as he has found himself in the centre of a transfer tug-of-war with Spanish suitors Real Madrid and his Old Trafford employers.
Ronaldo underwent surgery on his right ankle last Monday and now Portugal physiotherapist Antonio Gaspar has now confirmed the playmaker will not return to action before October.
"We are going to use everything that is possible to us and that will help him recover as quickly as possible," Gaspar told Spanish sports daily AS.
"But Cristiano Ronaldo will not be in an optimum state for the competition until 12 weeks are up.
Lengthy lay-off
"He is working very well and he is optimistic.
"These first four weeks he will do the rehabilitation work in my clinic. After the first month, the Manchester United doctors will carry out another exam."
Gaspar added: "I want it to be made very clear that I am only involved with Ronaldo's recuperation and that I am in permanent contact with the medical department at Manchester United, with the Dutchman Niek van Dijk [the specialist who performed the operation] and with [Portugal team doctor] Henrique Jones.
"Any other information or the medical aspect about his injury are only and exclusively the concerns of Manchester United."
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This thread was rampant with Ronaldo bashing long before, Ronaldo agreed with Batter
PWND!
Gus (our resident League Two footballer) is never going to live that one down.
Until the boy comes out and says utd treat him like a slave i think we should give him the benefit of the media twisting doubt. How does it feel to be manipulated so easily by shite rags.
PWND!
Gus (our resident League Two footballer) is never going to live that one down.
JAse our resident special needs poster. good to see you are well.
He's going nowhere
Its been obvious for a while....people forget how stubborn fergie is.
Even as a matter of principle the boy is going nowhere short of a 100milion pound deal or something crazy
The context being that a 12 year old kid who pretends to be a footballer on an internet forum knows more about football tactics (by virtue of FM experience, natch) than the most decorated manager in the history of the English game, who at the time of your post led us to a semi final and lost out due to season-stalling injuries to the eventual winners - and who a year later led us to that unattainable European Cup?
Excellent substantive response.
I can see you've been practicing.
How goes the rehab? Any chance the move to Rushden & Diamonds will go through after all? It was all over Sky Sports this morning.
This is correct.
This is also the most significant injury he has ever had.
The idea of being injured is of course horrible, but perhaps it will put his brain back in the right place a bit.
I still think getting alone with Fergie and then back with his team mates will get him thinking again.
And I agree with the columnist who points out that any footballer would side with Blatter in trying to maneuver for more 'player power'.
We take such affront to the comments because of their context within this saga, the source of the initial 'slavery' remark, and the amounts of money that are being discussed. There is a degree of class envy that some feel towards the modern footballer.
Its worth reading this article from the Observer again, two weeks after it was written.
Ronaldo devised own exit strategy
* Duncan Castles
* The Observer,
* Sunday June 29, 2008
Cristiano Ronaldo believes Manchester United owe him a 'dream' transfer to Real Madrid as reward for his record-breaking efforts during the club's Premier and Champions League winning season - a move the Portugal international decided to pursue in December.
On a weekend when Arsene Wenger said that Sir Alex Ferguson would appear 'weak' if he allowed Ronaldo to leave for the Bernabeu, Observer Sport can detail how the player has planned his departure. Contrary to reports that Ronaldo's representative, Jorge Mendes, has manufactured a situation in which he would profit from a transfer and contract worth a potential €200m (£158m), the agent has persistently asked his client to reconsider his actions and remain at Old Trafford.
According to sources close to the player, Ronaldo told Mendes that he intended to join Madrid seven months ago, saying he was prepared to go to United's board to explain that his dream was to play for the Spanish club. Though Mendes persuaded him not to do so, arguing that he would be crazy to leave them at this stage in his career, Ronaldo insisted he would depart at the end of the season.
'He told Jorge that United were going to win everything and then it would be easy for him to leave,' said a source close to the agent. 'Ronaldo thought that if he played a great season, United would be grateful enough to let him go.'
In April, as United closed in on the Premier League-Champions League double, Mendes again had to persuade Ronaldo not to inform Ferguson and assistant manager Carlos Queiroz of his desire to sign for Madrid, eventually convincing him that it might jeopardise United's pursuit of the two titles. After winning medals in both competitions, both England's Player of the Year awards, and scoring 42 goals, Ronaldo believed he had done enough to earn United's grace.
In an interview with the Brazilian website Terra ahead of Portugal's Euro 2008 campaign, Ronaldo stated that he wanted to join Madrid 'if it is true they are eager to pay me and Manchester United what they have been saying they will'. After his nation's quarter-final exit he went further, speaking extensively about the move and adding 'everyone has a dream to chase and I'm going to chase mine'.
Ronaldo said so much to the press in Basle that Madrid are understood to have been unhappy with his comments. Though the Spanish champions have mandated Mendes to negotiate a deal with United, club president Ramon Calderon has subsequently attempted to distance Madrid from the transfer. 'It is something between the player and Manchester United,' said Calderon last week. 'If he continues to insist that he wants to come and if United consider letting him go, then we will ask.'
Mendes is attempting to tread the fine line between pursuing the wishes of his most important client, while hoping to persuade Ronaldo to stay at United for another season. Improving the terms of the five-season contract they agreed last year may provide an escape route for agent and club.
Wenger has offered support for United's public refusal to countenance a sale. While discussing football's unstable transfer system, the Arsenal manager said that he thought Ronaldo would remain at Old Trafford, and that Ferguson would appear weak if the sale went through. Whether Wenger actually believes the winger will stay, or is merely trying to irritate his great rival is open to debate.
Of Real Madrid's actions, Wenger said, 'It is not right. Someone should make a stand against them. Man United have come on strongly at the moment and said "No". I think Ronaldo will stay, because I cannot see Man United making the kind of statement they have made if they have no assurance from Ronaldo that he will stay. Once you say he stays, he stays and if he doesn't stay you are weak.
'If a club of that stature says he will stay, he will stay.'
The European Championship finals look certain to be expanded from 16 to 24 teams in 2016 after the proposal yesterday won universal support from Uefa's 53 member countries. A final decision will be taken by Uefa's executive committee in September, but there was no opposition to the plan when it was raised at a meeting of association presidents and general secretaries in Vienna.
Ronaldo devised own exit strategy
* Duncan Castles
* The Observer,
* Sunday June 29, 2008
Cristiano Ronaldo believes Manchester United owe him a 'dream' transfer to Real Madrid as reward for his record-breaking efforts during the club's Premier and Champions League winning season - a move the Portugal international decided to pursue in December.
On a weekend when Arsene Wenger said that Sir Alex Ferguson would appear 'weak' if he allowed Ronaldo to leave for the Bernabeu, Observer Sport can detail how the player has planned his departure. Contrary to reports that Ronaldo's representative, Jorge Mendes, has manufactured a situation in which he would profit from a transfer and contract worth a potential €200m (£158m), the agent has persistently asked his client to reconsider his actions and remain at Old Trafford.
According to sources close to the player, Ronaldo told Mendes that he intended to join Madrid seven months ago, saying he was prepared to go to United's board to explain that his dream was to play for the Spanish club. Though Mendes persuaded him not to do so, arguing that he would be crazy to leave them at this stage in his career, Ronaldo insisted he would depart at the end of the season.
'He told Jorge that United were going to win everything and then it would be easy for him to leave,' said a source close to the agent. 'Ronaldo thought that if he played a great season, United would be grateful enough to let him go.'
In April, as United closed in on the Premier League-Champions League double, Mendes again had to persuade Ronaldo not to inform Ferguson and assistant manager Carlos Queiroz of his desire to sign for Madrid, eventually convincing him that it might jeopardise United's pursuit of the two titles. After winning medals in both competitions, both England's Player of the Year awards, and scoring 42 goals, Ronaldo believed he had done enough to earn United's grace.
In an interview with the Brazilian website Terra ahead of Portugal's Euro 2008 campaign, Ronaldo stated that he wanted to join Madrid 'if it is true they are eager to pay me and Manchester United what they have been saying they will'. After his nation's quarter-final exit he went further, speaking extensively about the move and adding 'everyone has a dream to chase and I'm going to chase mine'.
Ronaldo said so much to the press in Basle that Madrid are understood to have been unhappy with his comments. Though the Spanish champions have mandated Mendes to negotiate a deal with United, club president Ramon Calderon has subsequently attempted to distance Madrid from the transfer. 'It is something between the player and Manchester United,' said Calderon last week. 'If he continues to insist that he wants to come and if United consider letting him go, then we will ask.'
Mendes is attempting to tread the fine line between pursuing the wishes of his most important client, while hoping to persuade Ronaldo to stay at United for another season. Improving the terms of the five-season contract they agreed last year may provide an escape route for agent and club.
Wenger has offered support for United's public refusal to countenance a sale. While discussing football's unstable transfer system, the Arsenal manager said that he thought Ronaldo would remain at Old Trafford, and that Ferguson would appear weak if the sale went through. Whether Wenger actually believes the winger will stay, or is merely trying to irritate his great rival is open to debate.
Of Real Madrid's actions, Wenger said, 'It is not right. Someone should make a stand against them. Man United have come on strongly at the moment and said "No". I think Ronaldo will stay, because I cannot see Man United making the kind of statement they have made if they have no assurance from Ronaldo that he will stay. Once you say he stays, he stays and if he doesn't stay you are weak.
'If a club of that stature says he will stay, he will stay.'
The European Championship finals look certain to be expanded from 16 to 24 teams in 2016 after the proposal yesterday won universal support from Uefa's 53 member countries. A final decision will be taken by Uefa's executive committee in September, but there was no opposition to the plan when it was raised at a meeting of association presidents and general secretaries in Vienna.
That's good to know. Great. I can rest easy then.
Is correct.
How is it that we are seeing virtually completely eye to eye on this whole thing?
Has the world ended, have I joined the BNP, have you become a bit PC, or are you/I not as much of a git as you/I thought you/me were?
He may not be quite the same player once he returns, its just a hunch but......
Odd.
A few weeks ago we were told he made up his mind after the season when his attempts at a 30k pay rise were rejected.
Then it was between Wigan and Moscow.
Now it is December.
Soon he will have been planning this ever since the Ardennes.
Would he have been even if he had gotten "1 Luv 1 Utd 4 Evra" tattooed on his forehead?
42 goals in a single season for a winger is unlikely to happen again.
I saw a video on Utube of him casting doubts on his future after the Players Footballer of the Year Award Dinner, which was in April I think. Then there was that mysterious meeting with the coach from RM in Rome in January.
We will have to wait for his book to come out to find out what has really been going on. And Fergie's last chapter in his autobiography.
May
Well its gonna be pretty damn hard to maintain the standards he's set himself...should he have even a relatively poor season then the muppets (jason's of this world) will be out in force saying his heart isnt it it.
no matter Ronaldo stays or goes...SAF will be planning his strategy for the coming season preparing for the worst.....
Brian Robson THINKS he's staying - big difference I would say.
Well its gonna be pretty damn hard to maintain the standards he's set himself...should he have even a relatively poor season then the muppets (jason's of this world) will be out in force saying his heart isnt it it.
BrYan Robson or God to me. Sorry on the piss and got nothing better to do than correcting people
Well its gonna be pretty damn hard to maintain the standards he's set himself...should he have even a relatively poor season then the muppets (jason's of this world) will be out in force saying his heart isnt it it.
The last two years have made it abundantly clear that Ronaldo is unstoppable, he scores for Portugal often, scores in nearly every league game, and ever since he broke his duck v. Roma in 2007 has been the top scorer in the CL since. The man is on the best club in the world, even if he has a poor season he'll still get 20 goals and 20 assists(if others finish and a striker a la Berbs is purchased) gives the word poor new meaning. I don't think he'll get 42 goals this year as he will be coming back from injury, that said if he stays at United for a few more years I could certainly see it happening
Sir Alex cancels peace mission.
By Oliver Kay
July 13, 2008
Sir Alex Ferguson once famously rode pillion on a motorcycle journey across Paris to persuade Eric Cantona not to retire, but it seems that there will be no mercy dash to try to talk some sense into Cristiano Ronaldo. Ferguson had planned to fly to Lisbon today in an attempt to clear the air with the Portugal forward, but instead the Manchester United manager will stay at home to focus on his attempt to sign Dimitar Berbatov from Tottenham Hotspur, raising further doubts about Ronaldo’s future at Old Trafford.
Ferguson and Ronaldo have not seen each other since a celebratory party at Old Trafford on May 22, the night after their Champions League triumph over Chelsea in Moscow, and it is understood that there has been little, if any, telephone contact between the men, with their relationship strained by the player’s repeated statement that he wishes to move to Real Madrid.
Ferguson, having initially tried to ignore the furore over Ronaldo, appeared ready to spring into action by flying to Portugal this morning to try to end the unedifying stand-off, but that trip has been cancelled, seemingly because the United manager has other priorities.
It is not clear whether the two had, directly or otherwise, spoken to discuss a meeting today or whether Ferguson planned simply to arrive on Ronaldo’s doorstep. Ferguson, unsurprisingly, has been incensed by Ronaldo’s behaviour in recent weeks – from the initial flirting with Real to the crass suggestion last week that he felt like a “slave” at United – while the player and his entourage have encouraged the perception, accurate or otherwise, that he has been hurt by his manager’s “rot in the stands” comment five weeks ago and by a lack of direct contact with regard to an ankle operation that could keep him out of action until early October.
Visiting Ronaldo would have been a significant gesture from Ferguson – an act that was encouraged by Carlos Queiroz, who left his role as United assistant manager on Friday to take charge of Portugal. Two summers ago, when Ronaldo was again making eyes at Real while fearing the fallout from his involvement in Wayne Rooney’s red card for England against Portugal in the World Cup quarter-final, Ferguson succeeded in persuading him to return to Old Trafford, but there will be no such meeting this time unless the Scot can somehow find time to fly to Lisbon tomorrow before departing for South Africa the following day for the start of United’s preseason tour.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/manchester_united/article4327469.ece
By Oliver Kay
July 13, 2008
Sir Alex Ferguson once famously rode pillion on a motorcycle journey across Paris to persuade Eric Cantona not to retire, but it seems that there will be no mercy dash to try to talk some sense into Cristiano Ronaldo. Ferguson had planned to fly to Lisbon today in an attempt to clear the air with the Portugal forward, but instead the Manchester United manager will stay at home to focus on his attempt to sign Dimitar Berbatov from Tottenham Hotspur, raising further doubts about Ronaldo’s future at Old Trafford.
Ferguson and Ronaldo have not seen each other since a celebratory party at Old Trafford on May 22, the night after their Champions League triumph over Chelsea in Moscow, and it is understood that there has been little, if any, telephone contact between the men, with their relationship strained by the player’s repeated statement that he wishes to move to Real Madrid.
Ferguson, having initially tried to ignore the furore over Ronaldo, appeared ready to spring into action by flying to Portugal this morning to try to end the unedifying stand-off, but that trip has been cancelled, seemingly because the United manager has other priorities.
It is not clear whether the two had, directly or otherwise, spoken to discuss a meeting today or whether Ferguson planned simply to arrive on Ronaldo’s doorstep. Ferguson, unsurprisingly, has been incensed by Ronaldo’s behaviour in recent weeks – from the initial flirting with Real to the crass suggestion last week that he felt like a “slave” at United – while the player and his entourage have encouraged the perception, accurate or otherwise, that he has been hurt by his manager’s “rot in the stands” comment five weeks ago and by a lack of direct contact with regard to an ankle operation that could keep him out of action until early October.
Visiting Ronaldo would have been a significant gesture from Ferguson – an act that was encouraged by Carlos Queiroz, who left his role as United assistant manager on Friday to take charge of Portugal. Two summers ago, when Ronaldo was again making eyes at Real while fearing the fallout from his involvement in Wayne Rooney’s red card for England against Portugal in the World Cup quarter-final, Ferguson succeeded in persuading him to return to Old Trafford, but there will be no such meeting this time unless the Scot can somehow find time to fly to Lisbon tomorrow before departing for South Africa the following day for the start of United’s preseason tour.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/manchester_united/article4327469.ece
He doesn';t need to persuade him, Ronaldo might be treated like a slave in any way, but let's face it United contractually own him at the moment. It's not like he can just show up in Madrid and play for Real, despite what Septic Bladder says
Don't like that story as it's using bullshit to try and make out it's proof of his departure. All rubbish and they should know that Gill etc don't need Sir Alex to help in negotiations for berbatov..that's crap.
This thread has just resorted to people leaving comments for people to bite on now. BahamaRed should turn the t'internets off for a while.
the times have just copied that article from another paper which had that story yesterday.
No evidence in that article
No evidence in that article
It's been like that since the beginning
Cristiano Ronaldo is facing at least three months on the sidelines, according to the Portuguese national team physiotherapist.
The Manchester United wide man has endured a difficult summer as he has found himself in the centre of a transfer tug-of-war with Spanish suitors Real Madrid and his Old Trafford employers.
Ronaldo underwent surgery on his right ankle last Monday and now Portugal physiotherapist Antonio Gaspar has now confirmed the playmaker will not return to action before October.
"We are going to use everything that is possible to us and that will help him recover as quickly as possible," Gaspar told Spanish sports daily AS.
"But Cristiano Ronaldo will not be in an optimum state for the competition until 12 weeks are up.
Lengthy lay-off
"He is working very well and he is optimistic.
"These first four weeks he will do the rehabilitation work in my clinic. After the first month, the Manchester United doctors will carry out another exam."
Gaspar added: "I want it to be made very clear that I am only involved with Ronaldo's recuperation and that I am in permanent contact with the medical department at Manchester United, with the Dutchman Niek van Dijk [the specialist who performed the operation] and with [Portugal team doctor] Henrique Jones.
"Any other information or the medical aspect about his injury are only and exclusively the concerns of Manchester United."
The Manchester United wide man has endured a difficult summer as he has found himself in the centre of a transfer tug-of-war with Spanish suitors Real Madrid and his Old Trafford employers.
Ronaldo underwent surgery on his right ankle last Monday and now Portugal physiotherapist Antonio Gaspar has now confirmed the playmaker will not return to action before October.
"We are going to use everything that is possible to us and that will help him recover as quickly as possible," Gaspar told Spanish sports daily AS.
"But Cristiano Ronaldo will not be in an optimum state for the competition until 12 weeks are up.
Lengthy lay-off
"He is working very well and he is optimistic.
"These first four weeks he will do the rehabilitation work in my clinic. After the first month, the Manchester United doctors will carry out another exam."
Gaspar added: "I want it to be made very clear that I am only involved with Ronaldo's recuperation and that I am in permanent contact with the medical department at Manchester United, with the Dutchman Niek van Dijk [the specialist who performed the operation] and with [Portugal team doctor] Henrique Jones.
"Any other information or the medical aspect about his injury are only and exclusively the concerns of Manchester United."
Ronaldo's lengthy recovery time from injury will help to ensure that he stays here. We are in charge of his rehabilitation and there is no room for Real Madrid to get their hands on him now. What he needs is some guidance right now because in the summer he becomes too easily distracted. Real Madrid certainly know how to seduce him towards Spain.
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