I just can't understand why any of this could leave any negativity towards Ronaldo. The poor lad has done feck-all.
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Good point. But it always irritates me when posters are attacked rather than their posts. Many posters pop into a thread, give out a one liner attacking the poster, then fk off. Par for the course I guess.
Some open poll on Ronaldo's staying or going might be in order. So that after the "announcement of his decision" we could all have a big name-throwing parade..from "told you so CNUT" to "see what happened after all, you feckin cockbiscuit"
you said in a previous post you were tired of repeating yourself and that's fine but you must bear in mind it's your opinion pogue not fact and therefore what you, me or what anyone says won't account for much.
If we end up selling Ronaldo, i don't think we have to be scared. We have an extensive network. We have funds. We're european champions, league winners. We'll appeal to most players
We lived before ronaldo and when he sods off we'll continue. How we repleaced keano, cantona, becks is typical of this club.
All i am saying is if tomorrow he comes out and says he's off you be gutted fine, but alot of people are not as rational..and who can blame them?
You tell me someone that says' he's staying but tells the world media something different - there isn't anything rational in taking the piss not just out of madrid but the fans that know no better.
Even if things are being twisted, Ronaldo is the one in power. All he has to do is pick up a phone, call united and release a joint statement
Ronaldo, honestly needs a fecking kick in the nuts. He is dead cert to win the world or european player of the year. If you want to renegotiate a contract, how about on that basis rather then all this drama
The ironic thing is carlos said that what madrid are doing is trying to destabalize him before the euros, Ronaldo is doing that to portugal too. He's a wum, he'll stay i'm sure......but if i was fergie i'd be raging at his behaviour.
He's 66, he really doesn't need this shite from this little cnut.
Exactly, he's a fecking scumbag and I'm glad Helguera came out and exposed him for the classless cnut that he is.
You mean if he'd have said he was staying Live on television immediately after our last game of the season? That sort of thing?
He might just be announcing a new hair style. That was worth it's own thread once.
You and me both, mate. And if I'm honest, I'm guilty of this meself, from time to time.
I'm getting better at it though, the older I get. With age comes wisdom an all that (along with a tendency to pee sitting down).
Can't really expect the young whipper snappers to be quite so restrained.
Amen.
We can't control what he does, where he goes, or when it happens. We can decide whether or not his methods are good or not. In this case they are wank, regardless of what he is trying to achieve.
What did Helguera do?
Melodramatic rubbish! Fergie said himself in his press conference that you had to work harder to hold on to really top players. Fergie has seen it all at this point. If we sell Ronaldo it will be on our terms and Fergie will take the money and do good things with it. Fergie is as happy as he as ever been. He's seen players come and go over 3 decades of management and won't lose any sleep over this one.
Its just my opinion that with the likely outcomes to the situation, i will be slightly agitated by all of them. Whether people agree with that or not.
Worst case he states he wants to go to Madrid, which i obviously wont like.
Secondly, he comes out and says he is staying with the club at on the same conditions in which the whole "2-3" days thing and saying he is unsure of his future in the lead up to the CL final was unnecessary. I know people are going to indicate he had interviews where he said he was staying but im afraid there are just as many with him giving open ended answers. His tone etc often differed when talking to spanish or english press.
Thirdly, he signs a new contract. I will obviously be happy especially if it is longer but the public nature of it and using Madrid is something i dont like. People dismiss this by bringing up talk of Keane or Ferdinand but many things are different about this situation and it should be treated seperately. He should not have agreed to the contract one year ago if he wanted more, him having a fantastic season does not mean it should be improved, im my mind that is what he is paid 120,000 pounds a week to do.
A statemement saying he definitely won't leave United - no matter what - and has no interest whatsoever in signing for Real Madrid?
Then he hangs up the phone, to take a call from his agent:
"oh yeah... the new contract... um... sorry about that... Jorge? Jorge?!? "
You do have to work hard to keep your players, let me ask you something. Does that include having them in the stands or playing them in the reserves?
United should have a clear outline of what we need in the summer. Until Ronaldo makes it clear, we have to work harder because you need a plan b.
We cannot buy and exclude the fact that Ronaldo is in the stands...
This is the first time in my life i've ever heard Sir Alex say we might lose someone at 25/26. You might call it being 'melodramatic', but you talk about fergies experience.
You name me one player we didn't want to sell that we sold. You name me one player that fergies come out and said, we would find it hard to retain him...
hows this for a theory? Ronaldo always says one day I would like to play in Spain. Whats if its not Real, but Barca?!
Calderón And Pedja Not Fit To Run Madrid - Helguera
Iván Helguera has hit out at the Real Madrid hierarchy and stated that Ramón Calderón and Predrag Mijatovic are not fit to run such a grand club and should go.
The Valencia defender was ousted from the Bernabéu last summer by the pair and he has looked on in astonishment as they have gone about there business at the club.
After having his squad number taken away and being told that he would never play for the team again, Helguera still holds resentment against the pair and is pleased to see them struggling.
"Neither Calderón nor Pedja are big enough for Real Madrid, they are not cut out to be the president and the sporting director of such a grand club," he stated.
Helguera believes that the running of the club has fallen apart with the current regime completely failing to continue where Florentino Pérez left off.
"There is a world of difference between the two presidents. With Florentino, despite not winning anything for three years, people were still happy with him because he did so much for the club," he continued.
"Calderón won the elections in the way that he did and although the team has won two titles, things are not right.
"With Florentino the club evolved while under Calderón they have not. At the assembly he was whistled and jeered and proved that he does not have the support of the fans."
Mijatovic was next to incur the wrath of Helguera with the defender stating that his man management skills make the director totally unsuitable for his current role.
"He is not a sporting director because he does not know how to deal with people. My brother did not like him when they played together at Fiorentina and I know that was a common thing," he added.
"His treatment of me, when he took away my squad number and wanted me to leave, showed that he is not cut out for it. Valdano was the right man for the job."
lol.
You talk about new contract and there have been rumors but where is it? Don't get me wrong i would love that, but where is this magical contract?...
Let me tell you something. Unless you heard it from an official source, there is a good hance no contract is being offered yet. There it's possible Ronaldo wants one but no certainties he'd get it especially if he didn't want to extend the length of it.
Who really knows?
We're on a heading that Beckham once took it seems, whether it be this summer or next that the straw breaks camel's back.
Look at us and the club right now, counting off the days, at the mercy of a player and or his agent in this manner.
Can you imagine if he has given this 2-3 days answer to either Sir Alex or Carlos? I'm sure they're well satisfied with matters.
Are we expected to give him a new contract [bribe/tribute] at the end of every season? Could well be.
Though every club has its mercenaries though i guess. Some were seen as natives however then turned into such, some came from abroad with that possibility but proved it false and showed integrity, and others simply always were.
I still reckon he will stay for at least another season, but in so doing will have lost some respect [perhaps within the squad and managerial staff most of all] and must win it anew.
Look at us and the club right now, counting off the days, at the mercy of a player and or his agent in this manner.
Can you imagine if he has given this 2-3 days answer to either Sir Alex or Carlos? I'm sure they're well satisfied with matters.
Are we expected to give him a new contract [bribe/tribute] at the end of every season? Could well be.
Though every club has its mercenaries though i guess. Some were seen as natives however then turned into such, some came from abroad with that possibility but proved it false and showed integrity, and others simply always were.
I still reckon he will stay for at least another season, but in so doing will have lost some respect [perhaps within the squad and managerial staff most of all] and must win it anew.
Excellent point.
Tell you one thing, all this stress about Ronaldo is almost worth it because there'd be feck all for us to discuss one here without him!
No idea.
But didn't Ronalo mention some sort of "announcement" in the near future?
You don't suppose... I mean maybe... You know...
Good point on Agbonlahor and that could be argued to be the case with Ronaldo. I would say that is not something we have done in the past though and in my opinion that contract reflected his new status after last years performance and him being the best player in the world. Although Kaka was awarded that title. Fair point though.
No idea.
But didn't Ronalo mention some sort of "announcement" in the near future?
You don't suppose... I mean maybe... You know...
I would love it to be "Real madrid feck off"...
But I don't believe it's a new contract. I have to say that. If it is it would be nice but reverse psychology means you gotta expect the worst so that if a good thing happens, it's better to be not expecting it. He's as good as gone
If I was a betting man (which I am) my money would be going on Ronaldo staying until Ferguson retires. Probably another three seasons.
This will get worse every summer, the better the player gets. If this thread is anything to go by, most fans will be relieved to see the back of him, like the Arsenal fans were with Vieira.
Regarding his contract, we most likely will need to renegotiate every summer. In a way that suits the club as well, since if we constantly have a three or four year lock on him, we know we will get top dollar if/when he eventually does go.
That is almost exactly what the tabloid editors are saying this summer, I'd wager.
I don't deny that having a question mark over your start player is disruptive to your summer planning, but you said about Fergie: "He's 66, he really doesn't need this shite from this little cnut."
That makes it sound you're worried the stress of this is going to cause Fergie to keel over with a heart attack due to his age.
I would say that this is an annoyance for Fergie, but not something he is going to get so stressed by. Fergie has been "let down" by loads of players over the years. Read his autobiography and he talks about Gordon Strachan making a transfer deal with Lens behind his back, even though he had known him since his Aberdeen days. Fergie has seen it all.
By the same logic people could interpret what Fergie's said about the Glazer's balls and that he'd rather leave Ronaldo on the stands instead of selling him as Fergie's getting the wind of Ronaldo's desire to leave for Madrid.
I'm not saying he's leaving, nor that he's staying for sure.
People who are acting all high and mighty, and patronizing all the other posters who dare and worry about Ronaldo's leaving because, bar a couple of times, everytime he gets asked about his future he says that he's staying only to follow it with "only god knows the future" should get off their self-righteous high horse.
People tend to forget that Ronaldo has always made it clear that "one day" he would like to move to Spain. Hence, it's only logical that whenever ambiguity surrounds his future, especially when it's fuelled by him saying he'd have "news" over his future, people are going to get wound up quite easily.
For all the talk of giving Ronaldo the benefit of the doubt, the chance of him leaving is virtually equal to that of him staying. I say equal because the I don't completely but this "Ronaldo is holding out for a better deal" argument, because after the season Ronaldo had just had, he doesn't need to resort to such tactics to get a new deal. In fact, I can see Ferguson offering him whatever Madrid are prepared to offer, and then a bit more right now. He's supposed to be there talking to him face-to-face isn't he?
Anyway this will all be clear when Ronaldo makes his "announcement" in a day or two. I believe the outcome will be one out of these two:
- Ronaldo stays at United and becomes deservedly the best paid player in the world.
- Ronaldo decalres his desire to move to Real Marid and all hell breaks loose between us and them.
You read into what I said. It's logical, when your older you can live without these things. I believe Sir Alex deserves better from his player.
I think he's earnt the right to have abit more respect shown to him because ultimately Sir Alex and various people from the club have had to get involved when he should be relaxing on holiday after a hard season
I'm sure the club know who we want and i'm sure he's having a good time and he's earnt the holiday but the older you get, and with what we've achieved...Ronaldo playing silly buggers ain't good.
I know you think it's melodramatic but watch for the day he retires. You will never see so many grown men crying in your life lol sadly it's true
I guess at this point he's just waiting for Real to put in an official bid. He can't ask for an transfer if they don't even put in an offer can he?
Otherwise the 2-3 days thing doesn't make any sense since he's not waiting for any news from United nor are we offering him another contract.
Otherwise the 2-3 days thing doesn't make any sense since he's not waiting for any news from United nor are we offering him another contract.
Amen to that! It'll be a sad day, but I don't think Ronaldo playing silly buggers will hasten that day. If we sold Ronaldo for huge money then Fergie would be keen to spend it on some top players and prove that selling him ultimately made the team stronger.
What exactly has Ronaldo done then? Where is the disrespect?
The villains of the piece are Real Madrid. No-one else.
The first thing Ronaldo should have done is called Sir Alex and had a chat. Forget fat phil and the like. The person you go to is the people who have been instrumental in making you the player you are
Fergie then could have then just said. I've had a word with the player and we talked about the future and that is the end of the matter
To answer charley, if we lost Ronaldo I believe like you we'd see a fighting fit Sir alex as always. it will annoy him sure but not distroy anything
But I think if Ronaldo has anything to think about, he should include Sir Alex or Carlos. These people have given him good advice in the past and even Sir Alex was honest enough to admit it will be tough to keep the boy past 25/26.
If Sir Alex thought it was the end of the road, Ronaldo would be sold but the amount of faith he's shown in the boy, giving him the number, talking him up, giving him confidence.
If there is anything to discuss it's with our people not those idiots who think turning madrid down is a disaster. the maniacs.
We know madrid are a dirty, snide club but if your a player one way to stop the bs is to absolute in what you say. Yes the future is the future but stating the bleeding obvious only leads to more speculation. Fergie won't enjoy it but Ronaldo seems too
Fergie then could have then just said. I've had a word with the player and we talked about the future and that is the end of the matter
To answer charley, if we lost Ronaldo I believe like you we'd see a fighting fit Sir alex as always. it will annoy him sure but not distroy anything
But I think if Ronaldo has anything to think about, he should include Sir Alex or Carlos. These people have given him good advice in the past and even Sir Alex was honest enough to admit it will be tough to keep the boy past 25/26.
If Sir Alex thought it was the end of the road, Ronaldo would be sold but the amount of faith he's shown in the boy, giving him the number, talking him up, giving him confidence.
If there is anything to discuss it's with our people not those idiots who think turning madrid down is a disaster. the maniacs.
We know madrid are a dirty, snide club but if your a player one way to stop the bs is to absolute in what you say. Yes the future is the future but stating the bleeding obvious only leads to more speculation. Fergie won't enjoy it but Ronaldo seems too
Ronnie is the villain of the peace here, no-one else.
I know you don't like being called silly but come on, that's just... silly...
Not really, the caftards will find something.
We might be talking about Tevez to spain or Rooney's metatarsal.
We'll always have something. That's why the mods get all that money from the advertisements on the caf. Ronaldo not only makes united money from selling shirts, he also makes the mods richer.
He's one of them, yes. He's totally taking the piss, and playing the club, and it's fans, for fools.
I am actually stunned that so many are still defending him. My respect for him, as a person, is very low.
And then Fergie could phone up Gill and tell him "the lad's not going anywhere, postpone that new contract proposal until next summer" Ronaldo's agent would be well chuffed wouldn't he?
We're going in circles on this fecking thread. Why do so many people keep ignoring what other people keep pointing out?
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