ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

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marcus agrippa said:
tbh, i reckon he made up his mind a while ago. this is just him being a drama queen and attention whore all rolled up in one. very, very annoying, unnecessary and rather disrespectful. and the press are lapping it up, with the Caftards shitting bricks and making fools of themselves.

i agree with the team atmosphere bit. if he's getting to the point where he thinks he is as big as the club, or is the club, then we'd be wise to move him on. but not until next season's over. ;)
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He hasn't actually done anything though. The only thing Ronaldo can do is come out and say thats he's staying, or he's going, and even that wouldn't end the constant speculation.

The boy is with his national team, focusing on the Euros, which no doubt he is desperate to make a big impression on. Why should he entertain these distractions, considering that he has already said a number of times that he will stay at United?
 
Bilbo said:
He hasn't actually done anything though. The only thing Ronaldo can do is come out and say thats he's staying, or he's going, and even that wouldn't end the constant speculation.
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Which he has said, on camera, twice. And still people are getting their knickers in a knot.

Funnily enough, whatever ambiguous comments he has made, not one of them has been caught on tape or to the English media. All of them come via the continental print media.

Go figure.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Which he has said, on camera, twice. And still people are getting their knickers in a knot.

Funnily enough, whatever ambiguous comments he has made, not one of them has been caught on tape or to the English media. All of them come via the continental print media.

Go figure.
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Exactly. But that is the way people are on here.

If the papers were to say were signing Berbatov, Lahm etc...no-one would believe it and they will say its rubbish.

But when the papers say Ronaldo is going to Real everyone believes it even though twice (as you pointed out) he has said "I STAY".
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Which he has said, on camera, twice. And still people are getting their knickers in a knot.

Funnily enough, whatever ambiguous comments he has made, not one of them has been caught on tape or to the English media. All of them come via the continental print media.

Go figure.
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But he doesn't leave it at that though does he. He tends to leave it open so that you never know what he's going to say. Its always "I want to stay but in 2 to 3 weeks I'll make a decision/announcement" And he said that in 2 different interviews I think I've seen. One in English and one in Spanish which SSN was translating.

I'll be glad when he does make his announcement anyway, whatever the decision is.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Which he has said, on camera, twice. And still people are getting their knickers in a knot.

Funnily enough, whatever ambiguous comments he has made, not one of them has been caught on tape or to the English media. All of them come via the continental print media.

Go figure.
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The same thing happened after the World Cup/Rooney incident. 200 page thread. No-one liked Ronaldo anymore etc etc

Groundhog day
 
Trippin_Stoned said:
But he doesn't leave it at that though does he. He tends to leave it open so that you never know what he's going to say. Its always "I want to stay but in 2 to 3 weeks I'll make a decision/announcement" And he said that in 2 different interviews I think I've seen. One in English and one in Spanish which SSN was translating.

I'll be glad when he does make his announcement anyway, whatever the decision is.
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Well the two times he has said "I stay", he left it at that and walked away. Once during the celebrations after the CL win and then again that same night.
 
Don't get me wrong for ability Ronaldo is probably the best player i've ever seen in a United shirt. I'm with Brad though, why would Fergie come out and say something like he has in the last couple of days?? After the champions league final Ronaldo was asked if he's staying next season and his response was something along the lines of "I stay". And now he comes a long saying he's making a decision in the next 2-3 days? He needs to show a bit more respect to the club that made him. No single player is bigger than United. After all this I bet the announcement is that he's signed a new 10 year contract or something haha.
 
Bilbo said:
The same thing happened after the World Cup/Rooney incident. 200 page thread. No-one liked Ronaldo anymore etc etc

Groundhog day
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Exactly, which is why disliking one of your own players often proves to be stupid.

Fans hated Fletcher, but he has put in a number of good performances recently. Fans were booing Giggs a while back, he got in the PFA team of the year last year. And then there was/is Ronaldo.
 
Trippin_Stoned said:
But he doesn't leave it at that though does he. He tends to leave it open so that you never know what he's going to say. Its always "I want to stay but in 2 to 3 weeks I'll make a decision/announcement" And he said that in 2 different interviews I think I've seen. One in English and one in Spanish which SSN was translating.

I'll be glad when he does make his announcement anyway, whatever the decision is.
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The 'two to three weeks' comment is a little cryptic, but it sounds far more like a contract negotiation thing than an 'I'm moving on' thing.

It makes no sense for him to move now. He is part of a great club, that look better placed to win future honours than any other club in the world right now. Madrid will still be there in three years, and maybe they'll be a little less of a circus then.
 
didsbury1982 said:
Don't get me wrong for ability Ronaldo is probably the best player i've ever seen in a United shirt. I'm with Brad though, why would Fergie come out and say something like he has in the last couple of days?? After the champions league final Ronaldo was asked if he's staying next season and his response was something along the lines of "I stay". And now he comes a long saying he's making a decision in the next 2-3 days? He needs to show a bit more respect to the club that made him. No single player is bigger than United. After all this I bet the announcement is that he's signed a new 10 year contract or something haha.
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Fergie is saying these things because the behaviour of Madrid is quite appalling at the moment. If they escape any punishment for this, it will make a complete mockery of FIFA (although I suspect if they could prove any rules had been broken, then the club would be acting already, rather than just threatening).
 
didsbury1982 said:
Don't get me wrong for ability Ronaldo is probably the best player i've ever seen in a United shirt. I'm with Brad though, why would Fergie come out and say something like he has in the last couple of days??
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Because they are a pack of cnuts trying to unsettle one of his star players, and with Pepe there with Ronaldo a lot of the time it could be quite worrying for SAF. He didn't comment on a lot of the speculation but since it was coming day after day he probably felt he should come out with a strong comment to shut Marca up.

The quote that wins it for me is in the pre-match press conference the day before the Champions League final when he said to the Spanish reporter 'I bet you the boy will be here next year'.
 
my opinion is that he wants to stay - he's in the middle of contract negotiations with United and is aware of the interest from Real which he does fancy...he is saying 2-3 weeks depending on how the contract negotiations go, if well, then he'll sign no problem...if not then he'll think about Madrid
 
Real Madrid move to end speculation over Manchester United striker Cristiano Ronaldo

By Telegraph staff

Last Updated: 12:00pm BST 02/06/2008

Real Madrid president Ramón Calderón has said that he wants to end speculation about the future of Manchester United striker Cristiano Ronaldo.
Speaking to the Madrid-based newspaper La Marca, Calderón, said: "The club [Manchester United] has said that they are not going to sell, and we shouldn't worry about it any further."
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No deal: Ramón Calderón does not want to mislead Real fansRonaldo has been repeatedly linked to the Spanish club over recent weeks, leading Sir Alex Ferguson and Manchester United to consider reporting Real to Fifa for attempting to unsettle the player.
However, Calderón seemed keen to put an end to speculation over Ronaldo's future in his latest interview. "It should be known when this type of operation is over so the fans don't get frustrated," he said.
La Marca suggested Calderón wanted to avoid a situation similar to the Kaka scenario in 2006. Press reports said AC Milan-based Brazilian Kaka was on the verge of signing for the Spanish club, only for the deal to fall through.
"His [Ronaldo's] club has to make their intentions clear, and if they want to do business with Madrid, or with another club, they will do so," Calderónsaid.

In the meantime, the Portugal manager Luiz Felipe Scolari has added his voice to the saga, effectively encouraging his young protégé to join the Spanish side.
"We've talked a lot," he said. "In football, you don't live on memories. You take the opportunities that come along because if you let them pass you by, you'll probably never get them again."
 
Well the press always blow it 100 folds but if there is tiny bit of truth and that there is a possibility of Ronaldo being sold. I say sell him. He is the best player in the world but him playing with fans and the club is not tolerable if this is exactly what's happening. He deserves to be paid the most but if he so desires to play for Real Madrid let him go. But I would want Man United to ask for at least 30M pounds plus Robinho and Casillas. Then we could buy another quality striker with the leftover money plus buy right defender with the actual transfer kitty. This would not be so bad for the club. In a few years time there has to be room created for Anderson, Rooney to be the best player in the world. It could go all wrong like Ronaldinho at Barcelona because of these tenagers rise.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
He is fairly definitive in both these interviews.





If you've got a link to an interview where he says he wants to leave then, by all means, post it.
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I don't remember which interviews they were. I certainly don't have to search for them.

If you think there isn't something within all the stories then fair enough. I however think it would be naive to think that.
 
I do however think he'll be playing for us next year. Mainly down to how Fergie feels about the situation.

I just feel there is something in all the stories. No smoke without fire, know what I mean?
 
Figo makes Premiership admission

Figo has one year left on his contract at Real
Luis Figo fears his dream of playing in the Premiership may never materialise.
The 32-year-old Real Madrid and Portugal midfielder has hinted he would love to play in England next season.

But he may now stay in Spain and told Gazzetta dello Sport: "I have one-and-a-half years left on my contract and I intend to respect it.

Figo admitted: "To play in the Premier League in England was a dream when I was young but we all know that dreams are not always realised."
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Ronaldo: But my head is in Manchester because it is the club that, at the moment, puts me in the best condition and that I'm happy at.

"Now, as I have said many times, only God knows the future. I have never hid from anyone that I would like to play in Spain one day. It's a dream, but sometimes dreams don't happen.


"I can guarantee that I am happy at Manchester United and that I would love to continue."
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Portuguese players and their dreams. Doesn't always work out. He'll stay at United.

1. I don't actually think he's stupid enough to want to leave.
2. Fergie will definately not let him leave

He'll go when United tells him he can go.
 
Tevez32 said:
Well the press always blow it 100 folds but if there is tiny bit of truth and that there is a possibility of Ronaldo being sold. I say sell him. He is the best player in the world but him playing with fans and the club is not tolerable if this is exactly what's happening. He deserves to be paid the most but if he so desires to play for Real Madrid let him go. But I would want Man United to ask for at least 30M pounds plus Robinho and Casillas. Then we could buy another quality striker with the leftover money plus buy right defender with the actual transfer kitty. This would not be so bad for the club. In a few years time there has to be room created for Anderson, Rooney to be the best player in the world. It could go all wrong like Ronaldinho at Barcelona because of these tenagers rise.
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He isn't playing with anyone. He has said he will stay a number of times, and said that he wants to go exactly zero times.

Selling him would be madness in the extreme.
 
Trippin_Stoned said:
I do however think he'll be playing for us next year. Mainly down to how Fergie feels about the situation.

I just feel there is something in all the stories. No smoke without fire, know what I mean?
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True. Often there is no smoke without fire, and this case is no different. Real Madrid definitely want to sign Ronaldo. That is the fire, and they have made no secret of it.

I've seen absolutely no sign that Ronaldo wants to leave though, nor that we are prepared to entertain any offers. Neither has anybody else seen these signs, because as yet they do not exist.
 
Add to that he can play in the world cup championship if he stays that should be enough motivation on its won. Not really the prize won but what it could do for him marketing wise. Hope he stays but if he goes, hope we make real madrid pay big time and who is to say a combination of current crop plus Benzema and Robinho and Casillas can't bring more than Ronaldo could.
So, Fergie and Gill better learn from Aulas on this if the player wants to get the feck out of United.
 
Ronaldo has single handedly made Real Madrid his bitch. They are the ones that keep having to go to the media and beg him to come, while he just keeps fueling the speculation. The funny thing is that I think Scolari is dead wrong here, it will NEVER be too late to move to Madrid, their doors will always be open to him.
 
Tevez32 said:
Add to that he can play in the world cup championship if he stays that should be enough motivation on its won. Not really the prize won but what it could do for him marketing wise. Hope he stays but if he goes, hope we make real madrid pay big time and who is to say a combination of current crop plus Benzema and Robinho and Casillas can't bring more than Ronaldo could.
So, Fergie and Gill better learn from Aulas on this if the player wants to get the feck out of United.
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He is the best player in the world at the moment, and as such any replacement would theoretically be a detriment to the team. The team would go on without him if it had to, but we would miss him, because he is a key player for us.

Robinho or Benzema aren't a patch on him from what I've seen of them.
 
Bilbo said:
He is the best player in the world at the moment, and as such any replacement would theoretically be a detriment to the team. The team would go on without him if it had to, but we would miss him, because he is a key player for us.

Robinho or Benzema aren't a patch on him from what I've seen of them.
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benzema has already said he prefers spain or italy to england. suppose benzema comes here, gets really big, its just a matter of time he starts calling for spain to come calling.
 
Jesus. The papers have gone bananas over Robinho's comments. He's pulled it out of his arse, made comments that probably have no more substance than the fact that he has read the papers, and the world's media have made out that we are in fact in negotiations. Honestly.

Having said that, neither Sky or the BBC are reporting it.
 
Back from the daily trawl...

Marca were disappointed with their first online poll - in which they asked if Madrid should be trying to spend 80-90 million Euro on Ronaldo - something like 80% said no. Marca have tried again, this time asking "whether the voter thinks there's some possibility of Ronaldo moving," and this one managed to get a 57% yes vote - not exactly resounding is it, even though they aren't actually voting on anything - though Marca's interpretation of the result is that the fans are now happy with the idea.

Calderon claims he's got 100 million in finance available for summer shopping, but suspicion abounds that Madrid may have been making promises they can't keep. Which may well explain the tone of United's responses. If they were hoping to get Ron cheap because United had a sudden (fan-like?) attack of, "if he doesn't want us, we don't want him" then they're now realising it's not that easy and they'll need every penny of that bank loan to pay for any move. Personally, I don't think they can afford him and nor do most of their fans, some of the Madrid board and some of the less giddy members of the press.

As for the lad himself, 10,000 fans showed up to welcome the Portugal team to Switzerland last night, most of them eager to see United and Portugal's #7 even though their shirts still had Ronaldo 17 on the back. To add to the media attactions available when following Ron around - Ronaldo ended the training session with an icepack on his ankle.
 
Bilbo said:
He hasn't actually done anything though. The only thing Ronaldo can do is come out and say thats he's staying, or he's going, and even that wouldn't end the constant speculation.

The boy is with his national team, focusing on the Euros, which no doubt he is desperate to make a big impression on. Why should he entertain these distractions, considering that he has already said a number of times that he will stay at United?
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you have a point, i suppose; but whatever he says, it is ambiguous, and that fans the flames, which is why i think he's just a WUM. also, whatever he says, the press are going to twist it to make a better story, so i suppose he is not wholly to blame.

i just wish Brad and co (normally such sensible, level-headed posters) would just relax and stop being so emotional. they're being played for fools by the media.
 
marcus agrippa said:
you have a point, i suppose; but whatever he says, it is ambiguous, and that fans the flames, which is why i think he's just a WUM. also, whatever he says, the press are going to twist it to make a better story, so i suppose he is not wholly to blame.

i just wish Brad and co (normally such sensible, level-headed posters) would just relax and stop being so emotional. they're being played for fools by the media.
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I think that should read ..."by Ronnie"
 
BahamaRed said:
I think that should read ..."by Ronnie"
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If it was going to read "by Ronnie" then they would have had to have a hot-line to the player himself.

Which they don't. So it's safe to say they're being led by the nose by the press.

It's an interesting new variant on the "top red" phenomenon actually. Load of punters thumping their chests and spitting feathers about some sort of alleged insult to the mighty Manchester United.

When in actual fact, it's just a load of meaningless tabloid speculation and the usual drivel from Real Madrid.

I blame t'internet. Barely two weeks since the lad himself said he was staying at United, yet people ahve worked themselves up into a mighty lather through obssessing about the online media and group hysteria on message-boards.

10 or 15 years ago, most of us would have forgotten about football completely, until we picked up a paper with some concrete news about a new signing or a player leaving the club, a month or so into the off-season.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
If it was going to read "by Ronnie" then they would have had to have a hot-line to the player himself.

Which they don't. So it's safe to say they're being led by the nose by the press.

It's an interesting new variant on the "top red" phenomenon actually. Load of punters thumping their chests and spitting feathers about some sort of alleged insult to the mighty Manchester United.

When in actual fact, it's just a load of meaningless tabloid speculation and the usual drivel from Real Madrid.

I blame t'internet. Barely two weeks since the lad himself said he was staying at United, yet people ahve worked themselves up into a mighty lather through obssessing about the online media and group hysteria on message-boards.

10 or 15 years ago, most of us would have forgotten about football completely, until we picked up a paper with some concrete news about a new signing or a player leaving the club, a month or so into the off-season.[/QUOTE]

I take your point on that but in truth the papers would still be reporting it every day. We would just have to wait 24 hours between sensationalist stories rather than picking up on them every ten minutes.
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Pogue Mahone said:
If it was going to read "by Ronnie" then they would have had to have a hot-line to the player himself.

Which they don't. So it's safe to say they're being led by the nose by the press.
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Not sure I see your point there Poguee....Real are merely keeping in there because Ronnie is letting them, by coming out with ambiguous comments and saying he'll let us know in 2-3 days. What is there to let us know?
So got to blame Ronnie for all this and that's why us fans (and United too) are being led on by Ronnie....not anyone else.
Need to get this out of the way quickly. Hopefully today or tomorrow.
 
BahamaRed said:
Not sure I see your point there Poguee....Real are merely keeping in there because Ronnie is letting them, by coming out with ambiguous comments and saying he'll let us know in 2-3 days. What is there to let us know?
So got to blame Ronnie for all this and that's why us fans (and United too) are being led on by Ronnie....not anyone else.
Need to get this out of the way quickly. Hopefully today or tomorrow.
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The only comment I've heard from Ronaldo's own mouth was pretty fecking unambiguous "I'll stay"

Additional bits of information (via the continental press) include

a. "there'll be more news in a fortnight" 13 days ago
b. "more news in 48 hours" 24 hours ago

All the rest is just so much spin, spewed out of Real Madrid's mouthpiece in the media.

Obviously, we're all waiting to hear what this new is - with baited breath - but if it turns out to be announcing his commitment to a contract extension with MUFC, certain contributors to this thread will feel kind of silly.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I blame t'internet. Barely two weeks since the lad himself said he was staying at United, yet people ahve worked themselves up into a mighty lather through obssessing about the online media and group hysteria on message-boards.

10 or 15 years ago, most of us would have forgotten about football completely, until we picked up a paper with some concrete news about a new signing or a player leaving the club, a month or so into the off-season.
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Excellent points! Instant information (of dubious integrity) from the Internet, and the constant need for "Breaking News" flashes on Sky Sport have turned every transfer wrangle into a Lord of the Rings style saga with all the twists and turns.

Personally I would be surprised if Ronaldo declared tomorrow that he wants to instantly move to Madrid. But he may want to set up a scenario where he has greater chance of moving in a season or two. That might mean re-negotiating a contract where he has a chance of leaving in a couple of years for a set transfer fee that is not completely out of the range of Madrid or Barca.

I don't see him declaring that he is at United for good. It'll be a declaration that he is staying "for the moment". He will have his eye on a move in a couple of years.

In his post-season press conference Fergie said he thought it would be in a couple of years time where United could find it difficult to hold on to him unless we were still winning CLs. At that stage Ronaldo will only have a year or two left on the contract and it gets harder to be so gung-ho about keeping him. Hopefullly we will have built a squad that is not so dependent on Ronaldo for goals anyway, and we can let him good for a big transfer fee with no hard feelings.

It would be far too much of a shock to the system to lose him just now. We'd put him the reserves for a couple of weeks until he saw sense rather than do that. You're not going to WPOTY if you are currently playing alongside Drinkwater and Hewson (no offence to them).
 
Someone on here said that Pepe told the media that Ronaldo has made up his mind with a big smile on his face, that's what is scaring me really.
 
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