He'll be gutted. I'm sure.
Alternatively, you could re-phrase that as "Ronaldo's fecking with me. So I'll take it all far too personally and throw a bit of an e-tantrum"
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He'll be gutted. I'm sure.
Alternatively, you could re-phrase that as "Ronaldo's fecking with me. So I'll take it all far too personally and throw a bit of an e-tantrum"
Why would that be? Don't want to turn this into a Rooney v Ronaldo thread, but I just feel Ronaldo is more important to us, and is far less easy to replace.
everyone's saying the sam thing and still managing to piss each other off..special
When I say I've never seen anything like it I say it because I really haven't. And I thought I'd seen it all. I've never seen Fergie from day 1 say anything like what he is quoted as saying. There's never been anything that has stirred him, and now CQ, up as much as this...."Real can go to Hell".."Glazers' have balls", we'll sit him in the stands" etc etc etc. This has never happened before like this.
I reckon he's off....
Exactly. Without him we would struggle in the league so there is no point talking in Europe.
I go ballistic whenever United score. Couldn't give a shit who scores. Unless it's O'Shea...that's special.
Isn't that why we come onto the caf? Could be wrong. Excuse me.
Rooney is more important imo.
Yes, Ronaldo has scored plenty of goals, but I think it'd be easier, although still pretty hard, to find someone who would score as many, but I think it'd be even harder to find someone who could have the same influence on the team as Rooney.
I don't expect people to agree with me, but, I think Rooney is more important, and would be harder to replace.
Relax. An attempt to get an acrimonious transfer is the last thing Ronaldo and Scolari are going to want going on before and during the Euros. If he does say anything during the next few days it won't be that he's leaving. And give him the benefit of the doubt until he actually makes a transfer request.
Keep em guessing
Personally, I think SAF's going to talk to him, United will make some concessions on his contract and he'll announce he's staying. But that might be wrong on every count. A month ago, I assumed that a new contract was on its way but United say that they aren't in negotiations.
Just how hard are we planning on playing it? I wouldn't want to lose him over money but there are plenty in this thread who seem to think that it's OK (a matter of principle even) not to even talk about his contract. I don't think SAF would want to lose him over money either - but maybe the club think they need to show how tough they are and there's no denying it'd act as a warning to current (and potential) United players and their agents.
to be fair to Bahama, he's always loved Ronaldo, and i guess it shows.
Bahama, man, chillax. the boy will still be here with us next season, i'm sure of it, creating goals, scoring them, and winding up both Madrid and the opposition. yes, it is annoying that he can't be any more definitive about his future, but that's his attention-whoring for you, as well as a fair dose of Marca-litis.
We played very much to Ronaldo's strengths last season. He won't get that in quite the same way anywhere else, and if he were to leave we'd clearly change our style of play accordingly.
Without him in our current set up we'd suffer, but our set up would obviously be markedly different in his absence. For one, I reckon we'd play with a proper centre forward and a more orthodox pair of wingers. A lot would depend on who that centre forward is and who the wingers are - bear in mind that without Ronaldo, neither Anderson nor Nani would probably have joined the club.
Building a double winning side is a difficult task. We got the formula right this season but there are too many variables to talk about if you took out an integral piece like Ronaldo. It's unlikely that Fergie would have been able to tinker his way to a substantially different CL winning team but you never know. He's had a hard enough time getting there for the last 9 years, so the most obvious answer is no.
Without him in our current set up we'd suffer, but our set up would obviously be markedly different in his absence. For one, I reckon we'd play with a proper centre forward and a more orthodox pair of wingers. A lot would depend on who that centre forward is and who the wingers are - bear in mind that without Ronaldo, neither Anderson nor Nani would probably have joined the club.
Building a double winning side is a difficult task. We got the formula right this season but there are too many variables to talk about if you took out an integral piece like Ronaldo. It's unlikely that Fergie would have been able to tinker his way to a substantially different CL winning team but you never know. He's had a hard enough time getting there for the last 9 years, so the most obvious answer is no.
I don't even agree with this.
Ok.
I'm chilled mate. Couldn't be otherwise where I live! I guess the thought of losing the BPITW has got me a little aggressive. I watched Georgie play in just about every game he ever played up to '68 when I left Manchester. That was sheer joy. Ronaldo gives me the same feeling. It doesn't come often. Fergie knows what I mean.
Rooney was more important last season because he was our only centre forward. It's no use having Nani, Giggs, Tevez or Ronaldo in your side if none of them have any space in which to play. Having Rooney on the pitch meant the opposition defenders had something to worry about on their shoulder so they were forced to sit back a little more.
He's not the best in that role, and he's far from the only player in the world who's capable of doing it. RVN would have been able to do it, for one. Ronaldo's specific role in the side by comparison was inimitable.
That said, Rooney is my favourite player at the club. He'd still have done well in either Tevez's role or cutting in from the left.
Provisions should be written into player contracts that say:
- Salary adjustments will not be made until, say 2 or 3 years into contract
- Renewal of contract, and any other period related negotiations, will not be entered into until the final year of the contract, or maybe the penultimate year.
Or something like that - at this point in time, i see no point in contracts.
- Salary adjustments will not be made until, say 2 or 3 years into contract
- Renewal of contract, and any other period related negotiations, will not be entered into until the final year of the contract, or maybe the penultimate year.
Or something like that - at this point in time, i see no point in contracts.
I've repeated over and over in this thread that United > Ronaldo. See my previous post to see why I don't want him to go.
just stay chilled then. I've never seen you this emotional before. They way you're going right now, you're going to get a heart attack and miss your team repeating as champions (the team you coach) and miss united doing the double again next season with ronnie boy leading the way
.I guess we all have different reasons for coming on the caf. I'm not having a pop at you, btw, just pointing out you shouldn't take this whole thing so personally. But I'm sure you know that.
At the end of the day, if/when Ronaldo comes out and says he is determined to leave United for Real (which he hasn't even come close to saying so far) I will be as pissed off/disappointed as anyone on here.
Meanwhile, I'm not gonna let those feckers at Marca/AS push up my blood pressure. I'm prepared to overlook some poorly worded interviews from Ronalso and give him the benefit of any doubt.
Football and United are in my blood. To have a gem like Ronaldo acting up definitely gets my blood flowing. You're probably right about the heart and oh,
Abacom United > BahamaRed
And? Who has said otherwise? That's like stating the obvious.
Actually I was quite calm till I saw some of the crap being posted on here. Plus, got an afternoon to myself. A rarity. Plus, this is of course the silly season and I'm just as silly as the best of you.
I'm actually enjoying this as I don't often have the time to sit and reply to posts for any length of time. What with 4 sons, 5 grandkids, three businesses, my darts stuff and my football team (soon to be Bahama's Champions......stay tuned), I can rarely stay more than 15 minutes on here. (10 times a day though!). Except on matchday though when I shut out the rest of the world (thankfully all my family understand).
Peace to all.
Because....knock knock....he was saying that I thought the opposite.
More worried if Rooney leaves than if Ronaldo does
I think if it was up to you people, Rooney would get the ballon d'or and every other award every season. Commitment to the club is one thing, performance on the pitch is another. Ronaldo is on a different planet at the moment. 42 goals from a winger and he's still undervalued and his performance put down each time by saying "yea, but/if Rooney.."..
I think if it was up to you people, Rooney would get the ballon d'or and every other award every season. Commitment to the club is one thing, performance on the pitch is another. Ronaldo is on a different planet at the moment. 42 goals from a winger and he's still undervalued and his performance put down each time by saying "yea, but/if Rooney.."..
We'd be weaker. We won the PL on the last day of the season and the CL on penalties. If we're weaker then you have to rely on Chelsea and others not getting better. And there's no point saying we can buy two top players for the money - we're still only allowed to play 11.
We'd lose some of the magic - the stuff that people like Chelsea, Liverpool and Madrid haven't got - that unnerves opposition teams, even the good ones
Off the field, we'd lose some of the magic as well. When CQ talked about Ron become a marketing phenomenom as well as a football one he was right and again that's something that Chelsea (biggest club in the world wannabes) and Madrid (biggest club in the world werebes) envy. It might not matter much to us but it matters in terms of total revenue and the ability to recruit new talent.
Long term - United will go marching on.
Short term - It won't be the team I was hoping to see "grow up" and that would be a real shame, because I was expecting to see something amazing
We'd lose some of the magic - the stuff that people like Chelsea, Liverpool and Madrid haven't got - that unnerves opposition teams, even the good ones
Off the field, we'd lose some of the magic as well. When CQ talked about Ron become a marketing phenomenom as well as a football one he was right and again that's something that Chelsea (biggest club in the world wannabes) and Madrid (biggest club in the world werebes) envy. It might not matter much to us but it matters in terms of total revenue and the ability to recruit new talent.
Long term - United will go marching on.
Short term - It won't be the team I was hoping to see "grow up" and that would be a real shame, because I was expecting to see something amazing
Good point, i hadn't thought of it like that, you couldn't get much closer, Chelsea for one will improve therefore we can't even afford to stand still never mind take a step back...can we win teh league next year without Ronny? perhaps not...
it says we don't want players who don't want to play for our club
Let's not forget Chelsea will lose Drogba and Lampard they'll hardly improve in that respect (even though they'll splash millions once again), Arsenal lost Flamini who was arguably their best player last year and will also lose Hleb an other revelation last year.
I made a small bet with my dad last night that Ronaldo will stay. Hes convinced hes off. But we both hope that I win the bet!
No. We don't score enough upfront without him.
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I disagree. Rooney's influence on the team is based mainly on the fact we lack any striker who can lead the line. But he is more easily replaceable. Like most strikers are.
I don't know about that. Ronaldo has been phenomenal in terms of productivity this year but it's difficult to say who has more ability.
A team with Paul Scholes, Wayne Rooney, Patrice Evra, Rio Ferdinand, etc, does not get carried by a single player. The Arsenal team of 03/04 were not carried by Thierry Henry. They had Pires, Cole, Campbell, Vieira etc all contributing heavily to the success of the team.
Any team that loses it's best player would be affected, but even if Ronaldo were to leave us, we would manage. Our squad is far too strong for that and i still believe we could still maintain our current status as the best in Europe.
Let me summarize.....
If he goes, the notion that United will not win anything goes against my grain. I've seen em come and I've seen em go. More than any of you.
We're Manchester United ffs. I'd be really pissed off though.
If he stays, I've lost some respect for him but I'll be overjoyed. Being able to see him play for us is a gift from football heaven that you should all take in while you can.
I think Fergie and CQ should continue their verbal war with Real. Entertainment at its best.
I'm pulling for the septuple this next season!
If he goes, the notion that United will not win anything goes against my grain. I've seen em come and I've seen em go. More than any of you.
We're Manchester United ffs. I'd be really pissed off though.
If he stays, I've lost some respect for him but I'll be overjoyed. Being able to see him play for us is a gift from football heaven that you should all take in while you can.
I think Fergie and CQ should continue their verbal war with Real. Entertainment at its best.
I'm pulling for the septuple this next season!
Well its really come down to him. Hes become enormously powerful, more than we could have dreamed off.
I understand now, then I am in total agreement with you.
Hoped that would clear the air.
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