I've been gone and out of the loop for 3 days. Should I be freaking out now?
ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation
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well, SAF made the statement a few days ago that if you want to keep your best players, sometimes you have to work hard to do it.
i also read a month or so ago that the major sticking point with his current contract is his percentage of his image rights. apparently they want that renegotiated. who knows?
no. not from what i can gather. nothing much has changed except people's panic threshold.
If this was 300 years ago we'd be getting ready for battle because of our Ronnie.
It did, it was getting close to a heated argument but I thought it was pretty enjoyable for the majority of it.
We would need to find a target man though as the productivity and most of our game will still be there but we'll need someone to score all of those chances. If we get a young winger and a good goalscorer I wouldn't be afraid that we'll be pretty much the same. Not only that, but if we get a target man, Rooney will play at his favoured position. What I fear though is Rooney's injury record the last couple of years and that it might be a problem. United > any player in the world.
Anyhow, whatever happens......
Yep.
Oh aye. I'm not saying that if he leaves we'll be able to cope without addressing his departure. I'm merely pointing out that his departure wouldn't exactly trigger some form of horrific collapse.
Oh aye. I'm not saying that if he leaves we'll be able to cope without addressing his departure. I'm merely pointing out that his departure wouldn't exactly trigger some form of horrific collapse.
But I agree with you.
It's not, Ronaldo is clearly a better player in terms of ability. Rooney makes that up with his workrate but that doesn't cover up the facts.
I think we could cope with all of our most talented players were at their very best. For instance, Anderson in my opinion should become very influential in a short time with his undeniable talent. He's been touted as the next Ronaldinho for a couple of years now and I think that's what he will eventually become, although without all the 'I'm bored here, I want to go there' thing going around him.
Tevez is an excellent player as well, even though he hasn't exactly set the world alight since joining United - at least that's how I see it. I haven't been too impressed with his performances, he's had his moments of brilliance which goes to show how good a footballer he is, but I expect more from him.
Rooney hasn't been at his best for a while now and Ronaldo's great form may have set him back a bit because all the attention is set on Ronaldo now. Even if a player isn't necessarily an attention seeker, it helps when media carry you on their back, labelling you the best player in the world week in week out. That's the kind of thing Rooney hasn't experienced in a while.
Nani has a great potential as well, he has some issues he will need to sort out but he's got time too. He may not become as good as Ronaldo, but we cannot judge him by the benchmark set by Ronaldo. He can become one of the best wingers in the world.
And don't forget that we would get plenty of money for Ronnie, probably enough to buy two players of the same talent. Point is, Ronaldo has developped in an extra-ordinary way. You don't see faculties being used that well often.
IMHO it isn't. I firmly believe their ability level is the same. They just have different strengths and areas they operate in.
Total rubbish.
2 years ago, it would have been, 'Rooney is clearly a better player in terms of ability'.
It's just that at this moment in time, Ronaldo is the one playing better. But, when both at there best, it is too close to call in terms of who is more talented. I'd plump for Rooney, but then again, I maybe a little biased...but, that aside, it's very very close.
I'm a big Ronaldo fan, but I think we could be even better without him. All depends on who Fergie brings in. It already looks like there are transfer funds this season for a striker. With the ronaldo money, we could be looking at having the funds for another 3 world class players. If 2 of them settled in and came good. We might just have a stronger team than we did with Ronaldo.
Was a great metaphor actually. And when she starts saying she'll give a decision in 2 or 3 weeks, then 2 or 3 days, ya gotta be concerned (if not mental)
We could repeat without him, but we certainly wouldn't be the bookies' favorites to do so.
Buying well would certainly help.
Buying well would certainly help.
Nani was here this season. And although I'm hoping he'll have an even better season next year, the point is we'd need to sign Ronaldo's replacement (a goal scoring winger. Not a 40 goal+ player, but 15 or so) and also another player who can add the rest. Probably a striker.
Even if we got those 2 players who could make up his 40+ goals and assists, it still wouldnt be as good as having Ronaldo however as those 2 players are taking up 2 team spots instead of 1. Plus, he's the best player in the world. Ya know?
They're obviously different players but it's impossible really to have the same level of ability between them. I suppose we won't really be able to say until they're both quite a bit older.
Ronaldo is simply more on form. Rooney can do things that Ronaldo is unable to do and Ronaldo can pull off things that Rooney cannot.
Ability is something that is immutable. Do not base any opinion on it in regards to current form as that is something completely different.
We have been way too reliant on him this season The winger postion itself won't hard to fill. We just need someone to put the goals away upfront.
He has had a fair few goals from Pens and a couple from few kicks and we have players who can do both them jobs already.
He has had a fair few goals from Pens and a couple from few kicks and we have players who can do both them jobs already.
You don't have to wait that long. Just watch games in which both have been on fire. Like the Newcastle games at OT and Away. Or the Roma game. Can you honestly say in those matches you could see or say who had more talent than the other? Most likely not. Because the gap isn't there
No way, their sheer natural ability is similar. Ronaldo has just performed more at this point.
Its a tough one. I guess we'll know for certain in a few years. But theres a case for this. Ronaldo will never be able to pass the ball or see a pass like Rooney can, neither can he bring others into the game in the same way. Also, his shooting from range is good, but Rooney's in the past has been better (apart from freekicks). Volleys, chips etc Rooney has made all of that look easy in the past.
That's because two years ago people here were blinkered. These were the same people who two years ago said Ronaldo is not even in Rooney's class.
All this talk about ability, form is shit. Fact is Ronaldo is performing at least one or two levels above Rooney. It is not because he is selfish or Fergie favors him. It is because he is a better player as it stands today.
This is very true
instead of teams putting multiple players on ronaldo, they would put that on rooney/tevez. right now those two are given space because of all the attention paid to ronaldo.
also, does anyone get the feeling that people want ronaldo to feck off so that rooney can step in and be as dominating as ronaldo is at the moment? that first season when rooney came in and carried the club on his back we all thought he would perform like that season in and out. now that theres a foreigner whos top dog, I guess some ingerland blokes are feeling a bit peeved that its not rooney grabbing all the accolades.
btw, losing Ronaldo would be a monumental loss. But losing Rio would be a astronomical loss.
also, does anyone get the feeling that people want ronaldo to feck off so that rooney can step in and be as dominating as ronaldo is at the moment? that first season when rooney came in and carried the club on his back we all thought he would perform like that season in and out. now that theres a foreigner whos top dog, I guess some ingerland blokes are feeling a bit peeved that its not rooney grabbing all the accolades.
btw, losing Ronaldo would be a monumental loss. But losing Rio would be a astronomical loss.
I actually agree. Not because I think Rooney is the better player, but because if Ronaldo left United, we would all point to the fact that he's Portuguese, and likely to look up to Real Madrid as the best and most prestigious team in the world. While it's misguided and slightly ridiculous, it's easy to see why he left.
If Rooney left, there would be absolutely nothing to say. He's close to home, at one of the best clubs in the world with the opportunity to win untold numbers of trophies. So, supposing he left, where does that leave us? Clearly it would suggest that there is something inherently wrong in the club that we can't see.
I totally agree. Rooney's a brilliant talent, but has never been able to achieve the same level of consistency Ronaldo has, who's been on another level. Lack of consistency is of course associated with players of Rooney's age, but we expect so much from him, knowing what he's capable of and the way in which he burst onto the scene.
Manchester United face anxious wait for Cristiano Ronaldo decision day
Cristiano Ronaldo has raised alarm bells at Manchester United by declaring that he hopes to make an announcement on his future within “two or three days”. Sir Alex Ferguson, indeed no one at Old Trafford, knows what kind of statement Ronaldo has in mind, raising fears that he is about to start pushing for a purported “dream” transfer to Real Madrid.
Ronaldo’s godfather, Fernao Sousa, hinted as much last week when he claimed that the Portugal forward “has decided he will go to Real Madrid but will not say until the European Championship is over”, a statement that went down like a lead balloon at Old Trafford.
Ferguson said yesterday that he and the Glazer family, the club’s owners, would rather “sit a player in the stands . . . just to prove a point” than sell him to Real, but, while United’s resolve is stronger than ever, there is growing unease over precisely what Ronaldo, now in Switzerland with the Portugal squad, may be planning to say.
Speaking after Portugal’s 2-0 win over Georgia in a friendly match on Saturday, Ronaldo was asked whether he would soon be in a position to clarify his future. He said: “I hope so, yes.” When he was asked when that might be, he replied: “Shortly, in the next two or three days, I hope.” The answers look innocuous, but they are in keeping with a mysterious time-table to which Ronaldo alluded after United’s Champions League triumph in Moscow on May 21, saying that he would make an announcement on his future in two weeks. This would be encouraging if Ronaldo was in discussions over a new contract, but no such negotiations are planned, given that he signed a new five-year, £120,000-a-week deal in April 2007. United hope that he will announce he is staying at Old Trafford, but they have had no such assurances, even though Ferguson and Carlos Queiroz, his assistant, have tried to warn him of the perils of moving to Spain.
David Gill, the United chief executive, has stated Ronaldo is not for sale, even for a world-record fee far in excess of £50 million. Better news for United’s supporters is that the club could be ready to approach Lyons with a bid to sign Karim Benzema, the France forward, who was thought to be off limits, but by far the most pressing issue at Old Trafford is securing the future of Ronaldo.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/manchester_united/article4046269.ece
Cristiano Ronaldo has raised alarm bells at Manchester United by declaring that he hopes to make an announcement on his future within “two or three days”. Sir Alex Ferguson, indeed no one at Old Trafford, knows what kind of statement Ronaldo has in mind, raising fears that he is about to start pushing for a purported “dream” transfer to Real Madrid.
Ronaldo’s godfather, Fernao Sousa, hinted as much last week when he claimed that the Portugal forward “has decided he will go to Real Madrid but will not say until the European Championship is over”, a statement that went down like a lead balloon at Old Trafford.
Ferguson said yesterday that he and the Glazer family, the club’s owners, would rather “sit a player in the stands . . . just to prove a point” than sell him to Real, but, while United’s resolve is stronger than ever, there is growing unease over precisely what Ronaldo, now in Switzerland with the Portugal squad, may be planning to say.
Speaking after Portugal’s 2-0 win over Georgia in a friendly match on Saturday, Ronaldo was asked whether he would soon be in a position to clarify his future. He said: “I hope so, yes.” When he was asked when that might be, he replied: “Shortly, in the next two or three days, I hope.” The answers look innocuous, but they are in keeping with a mysterious time-table to which Ronaldo alluded after United’s Champions League triumph in Moscow on May 21, saying that he would make an announcement on his future in two weeks. This would be encouraging if Ronaldo was in discussions over a new contract, but no such negotiations are planned, given that he signed a new five-year, £120,000-a-week deal in April 2007. United hope that he will announce he is staying at Old Trafford, but they have had no such assurances, even though Ferguson and Carlos Queiroz, his assistant, have tried to warn him of the perils of moving to Spain.
David Gill, the United chief executive, has stated Ronaldo is not for sale, even for a world-record fee far in excess of £50 million. Better news for United’s supporters is that the club could be ready to approach Lyons with a bid to sign Karim Benzema, the France forward, who was thought to be off limits, but by far the most pressing issue at Old Trafford is securing the future of Ronaldo.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/manchester_united/article4046269.ece
So, in two years, if Rooney goes onto to play better than Ronaldo for a couple of seasons, we will be able to call you 'blinkered'?
IF this is true, it would mean Ronaldo has refused to even tell Fergie and Carlos his 'plans', which, I'm afraid, is inexcusableness, and probably the most selfish thing he could do. It also shows just how much he thinks of himself, and how big his ego is.
Whatever his decision, my opinion of him has been tainted, beyond repair, and I'm sure I'm not the only United fan to feel this way, which is a massive shame, as Ronaldo really has, or had, everything to become a true legend at this club, up there with the likes of Giggs, and Scholes, but ultimately, his actions are going to deny him this.
Whatever his decision, my opinion of him has been tainted, beyond repair, and I'm sure I'm not the only United fan to feel this way, which is a massive shame, as Ronaldo really has, or had, everything to become a true legend at this club, up there with the likes of Giggs, and Scholes, but ultimately, his actions are going to deny him this.
Simple as. I'd be very surprised if we like what he has to say.
Agreed.
I just couldn't give a toss whether he stays or goes. Use the money for Benzema
and tempt him with a massive salary, you never know...
I agree. Even if he was to turn around now and commit his short-term future to the club, the damage has already been done for several fans out there.
After all this club has done for him, irrespective of his somewhat arrogant traits, I expected better.
Yeah. If worse comes to worst, and Ronaldo is only interested in one thing...
Then at least we still have...
agreed.
basically, it's precisely the same speculation as what's on here to begin with. bar the fact it's a professional paper, there's no difference.
sometimes i weep at the gullibility of folks on here.
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