ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

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Obviously I do not want to see anyone at United who'd rather not be here. So its best that he goes. But I'm not going to be a dick and suddenly turn on him and start hating the shit out of him.

My overriding emotion will be one of disappointment at losing an important part of a very special team that Fergie is building. Of course we will move on and all that, but I will surely be a bit gutted at losing our player of the year for 2 seasons.

He has always maintained that he wants to go to Spain so I don't get people who feel deceived about his loyalty.

I would say thanks for the memories of 2 unforgettable seasons, but if you insist on leaving something so special, you know where the door is.

Good post and I agree with the sentiment.


For me, I still reckon it's highly likely that we won't sell him this summer. Whatever Ronaldo wants, we still have the final decision. Unless selling him is beneficial to us then we shouldn't sell immediately. Long term obviously its not good to keep someone against their will, but I can only see SAF agreeing to the deal when he has a plan in place for the squad minus Ronaldo, and I doubt he and CQ will be sure of their plan/able to put it into place this summer.

It's better to keep an unhappy Ronaldo for a season and make sure we get the right replacement(s) than rush to sell him.
 
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Daniel Taylor
June 21, 2008 12:54 AM
First of all a little story to tell you what kind of man we are talking about. It is January 9, 2008, and in an upstairs room at Manchester United's training ground five elderly men in smart blazers are struggling with their emotions in front of a hushed audience. It is the club's media day building up to the 50th anniversary of the Munich air disaster and Sir Bobby Charlton's polite smile does not hide the fact he is trembling as he takes his seat. Bill Foulkes is straight-backed and dignified but only a couple of questions have been asked before the tears appear in his eyes and he reaches for a glass of water.


In an adjacent room Wayne Rooney has agreed to offer a modern-day perspective of that seminal day when 23 people, including eight members of Sir Matt Busby's team, were killed in the wreckage of the burnt-out BEA Elizabethan. It is not his specialist subject but he handles the occasion with dignity and more eloquence than some people might imagine. But then Cristiano Ronaldo comes through the double doors and the mood is broken.


He is wearing a white suit jacket and ripped jeans, looking every bit the boy-band hunk, but it is very obvious he is in a bad mood. He begins by berating Karen Shotbolt, the club's press officer, because he is waiting for Rooney and the event has over-run. He is banging his watch with his hand, flapping his arms and gesturing in the way that Portuguese footballers usually reserve for fussy referees and, at first, he is so animated it appears as if it might be a wind-up.


When he flounces back through the doors, cursing loudly, it is very obvious he is being deadly serious. Rooney is professional enough to carry on with his tribute but the attention is no longer exclusively on him. Thirty seconds later Ronaldo appears again, first rapping his forefinger against the glass in the door, then opening it by a fraction and starting to whistle at Rooney in the way that a farmer beckons his sheepdog.


It was such an unpleasant scene the journalists decided not to write about it because we had been invited to the training ground to cover a far more important subject and, when you have sat with men as noble as Charlton, Foulkes, Albert Scanlon, Harry Gregg and Kenny Morgans and seen the hurt in their eyes, it felt incongruous to veer off-track. But coming away from Carrington that day it was difficult not to wonder what had become of the pimply teenager with the braces on his teeth who had been photographed, in his first few weeks as a United player, holding hands with his mother, Dolores, as they crossed a busy Manchester street.


The answer, of course, is that Ronaldo has fallen in love with his own reflection and, as United are currently finding out, that ego is in danger of spiralling out of control. Nor, sadly, is this story a one-off. One member of staff at Old Trafford reports being shocked by his rudeness when sorting out his travel arrangements for a club trip last season. And then there was last season's Football Writers' Association's annual dinner when, with barely any notice, its player of the year demanded that space was made for five of his friends to attend and that he would like them all to be on the top table with him. He got his way, as superstars often do, but the organisers were unimpressed, to say the least.


This is not to say that Ronaldo is all bad. He won a court case against the Sun earlier this week after it was reported that he had been fined for breaking club rules by using his phone during training: a story that was obvious baloney to anyone who has followed the player's career. Ronaldo, in many ways, is the consummate professional when it comes to improving himself on the pitch. He is not a man for nightclubs or raucous evenings out among the Manchester glitterati and there is something deeply impressive about the way he has come from his humble beginnings, growing up in Madeira in a house so small the washing machine was on the roof, to become the most penetrative attacking footballer in the world.


And yet United's more loyal and thoughtful supporters would by now be entitled to think it would be better for Sir Alex Ferguson and the Glazer family to end this shabby saga and let the previously unthinkable happen. To them, his constant prevaricating about his future, his flirting with the Spanish media and his apparent disregard for Manchester United, must smack of a man who has started to think he is bigger than the club.


His sound bites have become increasingly strategic, as if he thinks we cannot see what he is doing, yet nobody will have been surprised that the sweat had barely dried on his brow after Portugal's defeat by Germany on Thursday before he had re-iterated his desire to leave Old Trafford - just as Real Madrid had requested. United insist they will not allow themselves to be bullied into a corner but, when a player is acting like this and would so obviously be resentful and unsettled if he is denied the transfer he craves, the question should be: what is the point in keeping him?
 
How wet are you!

Thanks for the memories? He's given us brand new memories to sully the time he's spent here. Time where he went from being a show pony nobody to one of the most deadly effetively players in the game, under our guidance, Fergies tutorledge and fitness / training regimes. He should bloody be thanking us!

Given the complete lack of respect he's showing for the fans, the club, and the manager - who has a tricky job of not being fatally undermined by this player at the moment - my overiding feeling is one of contempt and anger personally

I enjoyed watching him develop over the years from that show pony into what he is today. And of course, we have an environment in which young talents develop into world class players. Its what has happened over the years and will continue to happen in the future.

So tell me, you won't have any good memories of the past two seasons?

As far as the question of loyalty goes, as I said, he has always made it clear, where his interests are. So this has not come as much of a surprise to me. In fact I've said it for quite a while, both on here and to my mates, that when he does go, it will be at the end of long drawn transfer saga like this.
 
For fecks sake give that story its own thread then it doesn't keep getting posted in here
 
The fact that no player is as big as the club, is a double edged knife/sword/whatever.

Seeing kids wearing Zidane/Beckham/Ronaldo(Fat) Real shirts used to piss me off no end. Are these kids Real fans or are they Zidane/Beckham/Ronaldo(Fat) fans? The answer is the later, but Real cultivate nurseries of future fans by buying these players and attaching these young kids to the club for life. I was given a Notts County shirt as a young kid, and still have a soft spot for them.

At the moment Real have no one who impresses the kids with their skill (Robinho is very hit and miss). The thing is we've got this player, and all of a sudden kids are popping up all over the place in United shirts with Ronaldo 7 on the back. Real have noticed this, and want in on it. If we sell Ronaldo, they'll have won. If we keep Ronaldo, and play hard ball for a couple more years, it will make a huge difference to our future earnings. Then we can sell him on at the same inflated price as now.

I've given up praying for Ronaldo's well being, and have lost all respect for him as a person. But I hope we don't give in. This year we learnt to play against, and beat, the best in Europe on the field, I hope we learn to beat them off it as well.
 
I enjoyed watching him develop over the years from that show pony into what he is today. And of course, we have an environment in which young talents develop into world class players. Its what has happened over the years and will continue to happen in the future.

So tell me, you won't have any good memories of the past two seasons?

As far as the question of loyalty goes, as I said, he has always made it clear, where his interests are. So this has not come as much of a surprise to me. In fact I've said it for quite a while, both on here and to my mates, that when he does go, it will be at the end of long drawn transfer saga like this.

I personally don't see how, a year ago when he signed a contract binding himself to this club for 5 more years, he made it clear he wanted to leave for Madrid in a years time. I'm not suprised by Madrids behaviour in all this. I am suprised the lad has run with it

I have great memories of the last two seasons, but they're not bound around Ronaldo. He was just an ingredient of our success - an important, headline making ingredient - but I've always felt the supporters gave him too much credit actually. Constant wall to wall Ronaldo chants. You look at someone like Rooney, applying himself selflessly to the cause, not being appreciated in quite the same manner... I always felt a bit uneasy about that

Whenever I think about Ronaldo, whatever happens in the future stay or go, his behaviour and conduct this summer will not leave my mind, and he only has himself to blame
 
He would, they would find a way to lure him back surely. Madrid can get any player they want.

No, AC Milan proved that with Kaka.

Many players had came out saying that after tasting it, Real is not half as glamourous as they thought they were. Take Figo, Ronaldo (the Brazilian) and Beckham for example. Sneijder had been working in that system and had done well. Despite all he will be sacrificed in a bid of bringing in another player.

I doubt that after such experience he would want to join that circus ever again.
 
Whenever I think about Ronaldo, whatever happens in the future stay or go, his behaviour and conduct this summer will not leave my mind, and he only has himself to blame

Hopefully, if he leaves we get to play Madrid in the CL next year - and hand their arses to them on a plate.
 
As if United players don't read United forums. I'd be on here everyday if I was Cristiano Ronaldo.

We've probably turned him away due to our constant speculation mongering.

I should've forseen this.

Damn.
 
The fact that no player is as big as the club, is a double edged knife/sword/whatever.

Seeing kids wearing Zidane/Beckham/Ronaldo(Fat) Real shirts used to piss me off no end. Are these kids Real fans or are they Zidane/Beckham/Ronaldo(Fat) fans? The answer is the later, but Real cultivate nurseries of future fans by buying these players and attaching these young kids to the club for life. I was given a Notts County shirt as a young kid, and still have a soft spot for them.

At the moment Real have no one who impresses the kids with their skill (Robinho is very hit and miss). The thing is we've got this player, and all of a sudden kids are popping up all over the place in United shirts with Ronaldo 7 on the back. Real have noticed this, and want in on it. If we sell Ronaldo, they'll have won. If we keep Ronaldo, and play hard ball for a couple more years, it will make a huge difference to our future earnings. Then we can sell him on at the same inflated price as now.

I've given up praying for Ronaldo's well being, and have lost all respect for him as a person. But I hope we don't give in. This year we learnt to play against, and beat, the best in Europe on the field, I hope we learn to beat them off it as well.

Quality post
 
I'm not bothered.

I'm pretty sure SAF will come up with the best solution, whatever that may be.
He has all the options.

Ronaldo's making mistake going public with all that. But he's a silly boy, no surprise there.
I can't believe he thinks (is being advised more like it) he can force us to sell him.
 
Hopefully, if he leaves we get to play Madrid in the CL next year - and hand their arses to them on a plate.

i doubt that would happen we tend to choke against real. and just to think our best player is going their way would probably put a bad patch on our players mind if we do come up against them, although i hope this doesnt affect our players.

I know we can beat them, and we probably will since we are a better team and c. ronaldo tends to choke when things are not going his way. also since he has played for us for 5 seasons fergie and cq would know best how to contain him. but to say that we would hand their ass on a plate is going to far. Although roma did it this year (beat them twice) I bet ruud and ronaldo would shift into 5th gear just like rooney and co. would and would make it a neck to neck match. Heinze on the other hand is irrelevant, poor sap left united because he wanted playing time and he left being promised first team footy just to sit in the bench lol.
 
its a tactic....Ronaldo has said many times he is happy here...I believe that...he knows he cannot break the contract he just signed without 'using' Real's interest...this is all about contract negotiations...sure he could have waited another year to renegotiate his contract...but that is one less year off his earning capability...if Ronaldo gets the contract he wants he will stay another 5 years...I'm sure...but he would want to play at Real before he stops being an influential player...
 
its a tactic....Ronaldo has said many times he is happy here...I believe that...he knows he cannot break the contract he just signed without 'using' Real's interest...this is all about contract negotiations...sure he could have waited another year to renegotiate his contract...but that is one less year off his earning capability...if Ronaldo gets the contract he wants he will stay another 5 years...I'm sure...but he would want to play at Real before he stops being an influential player...

i think he wants to go to madrid, simply.
 
I've posted a lot on this thread but this will be my last comment.

I've defended him quite a lot in the last couple of weeks and doubted some of the things I have read in the papers. It seems however that much of it has been true and that has and is conducting himself much as reported. I'm now of the opinion that he is not the sort of man (sorry, boy) I want at United any more. He has clearly fallen in love with himself and his image and no longer cares about anyone - the club, the fans, his teammates (United and Portugal).

If I were United I'd get rid as soon as possible for the best deal they can get.

Ronaldo is the best footballer I have seen live in a United shirt. I hope I never see him in one again.
Totally agree
 
Disgrace. No, not Ronaldo but 90 percent of the people in this thread.
 
has the twat handed in the transfer request yet ?

No, he hasn't but, apparently, he's definitely going to. Sunday, I think, no, wait a min. it's monday, no, tues. well, someday, but he definitely will.
 
i think he should stay for at least 1 more season just to win the fecking lot...
european super cup, world club cup etc..

if he leaves, what we had was good..even better knowning that liverpool scouts saw him first,was in contact with his people at sporting and decided they would NOT persue him...quality!!!
 
i think he should stay for at least 1 more season just to win the fecking lot...
european super cup, world club cup etc..

if he leaves, what we had was good..even better knowning that liverpool scouts saw him first,was in contact with his people at sporting and decided they would NOT persue him...quality!!!
We're gonna win those without Ronaldo. He can watch the games on TV while he's living his dream
 
Been out all day, could someone please bring me up to date with the latest news?

Thanks.
 
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this pic is relevant to the thread and clearly reflects the whole saga
 
apparently madrid are offering us 45m plus Sneijder

id prefer 80m plus Sneijder tho

if i was fergie and i had resolved to the notion of selling him.. then i would open up communication channels with the renties and fat phil scolari.. try and get a bidding war going, let them(rm) see what it is like when the russian gets his cheque book out..
 
apparently madrid are offering us 45m plus Sneijder

id prefer 80m plus Sneijder tho

Sneijder said during the week that he loves it in Madrid. What makes people think that he will suddenly join United?

If Real end up signing Ronaldo against our wishes, I think it makes us look like fools in the transfer market. We are already struggling to sign players.
 
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