ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

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ThatOldRedMagic said:
Is he still that good? Seems a shadow of his former self to me.
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The talent is there, surely. It doesn't just disappear at some stage of career for no apparent reason. He's been badly conducted for the past 18 months or so, hence his bad form of recent, he has also been hassled by handful of injuries which Barcelona medical staff couldn't deal with (although we don't even know how many of those injuries were for real). He has just lost the desire, the sort of hunger that pushed him forward in his first years at Barca.

If there's one place in the world where Ronaldinho could be certain to retain his form, then it's surely United. At the price being quoted around, which is mostly beyond £10m figure, he's worth a gamble. I dare to say that Ronaldinho at top of his form is better than Ronaldo of present.
 
Sarni said:
The talent is there, surely. It doesn't just disappear at some stage of career for no apparent reason. He's been badly conducted for the past 18 months or so, hence his bad form of recent, he has also been hassled by handful of injuries which Barcelona medical staff couldn't deal with (although we don't even know how many of those injuries were for real). He has just lost the desire, the sort of hunger that pushed him forward in his first years at Barca.

If there's one place in the world where Ronaldinho could be certain to retain his form, then it's surely United. At the price being quoted around, which is mostly beyond £10m figure, he's worth a gamble. I dare to say that Ronaldinho at top of his form is better than Ronaldo of present.
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He actually is.

Ronaldinho is the most talented football player I have seen apart from the Fat one.
 
Sarni said:
The talent is there, surely. It doesn't just disappear at some stage of career for no apparent reason. He's been badly conducted for the past 18 months or so, hence his bad form of recent, he has also been hassled by handful of injuries which Barcelona medical staff couldn't deal with (although we don't even know how many of those injuries were for real). He has just lost the desire, the sort of hunger that pushed him forward in his first years at Barca.

If there's one place in the world where Ronaldinho could be certain to retain his form, then it's surely United. At the price being quoted around, which is mostly beyond £10m figure, he's worth a gamble. I dare to say that Ronaldinho at top of his form is better than Ronaldo of present.
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What about the City move that's been talked about? I guess if we pitched in there'd be no contest.
 
Ronaldinhio won't come for 10m. Milan had a bid of 25m euros rejected, Barca are holding out for 40m euros.
 
Brad said:
Let's just end one speculation. If Ronaldo has to stay at United, he won't refuse to play for us, that's just ridiculous and shouldn't even be a consideration

There's no way the Glazers and Ferguson are going to look like mugs on this. The only justification for selling is if we get an offer which we consider compensates us for the loss of our key player the last two seasons, contracted here for a further four. An offer of £40million simply wouldn't wash in the circumstances. I can see the owners / manager backing down from the 'he's going nowhere' stance if Madrid put up serious money and the player genuinely wants to leave, but not a chance that will happen for anything less than top price

I think some people have got the wrong concept of player power. Yes when they want to move, they usually end up moving (though not always immediately), but it usually still involves a club wanting to buy paying over the odds for the player
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Definitely agree with you there brad. There's no way I see Fergie sitting ronnie down in the stands or whatnot or ronaldo even taking the approach of him not wanting to play here. He loves it here but he obviously seems to love madrid more. I think what will end up happening is that he'll sit down with Fergie and give it his all this year and by next summer he'll probably end up going to madrid.
Considering our transfers of Ruud and beckham to madrid at such low prices, do you think united will ship him off for more than 50 mil (pounds) or will it end up being somewhere in the region of 40 mil (pounds)?
 
Sarni said:
The talent is there, surely. It doesn't just disappear at some stage of career for no apparent reason. He's been badly conducted for the past 18 months or so, hence his bad form of recent, he has also been hassled by handful of injuries which Barcelona medical staff couldn't deal with (although we don't even know how many of those injuries were for real). He has just lost the desire, the sort of hunger that pushed him forward in his first years at Barca.

If there's one place in the world where Ronaldinho could be certain to retain his form, then it's surely United. At the price being quoted around, which is mostly beyond £10m figure, he's worth a gamble. I dare to say that Ronaldinho at top of his form is better than Ronaldo of present.
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Offcourse, no offense to ronaldo but when Ronaldinho plays the game and when is at his best, no one can stop him or take the ball of him. Even if he is marked, he just simply stuns you and takes the game away form you in an instance with his magical feet, like chelsea found out with the dancing feet.

I have every respect for ronaldo (probably the only one in the caf) but, ronaldinho is simply sublime at his very best.
 
crappycraperson said:
Ronaldinhio won't come for 10m. Milan had a bid of 25m euros rejected, Barca are holding out for 40m euros.
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I don't know how much of credibility those rumours had. Nobody from Milan came out and talked about it, as far as I remember, and they usually do speak about those issues. I remember precisely that they had a bid of £40m turned down last year, but it was before Ronaldinho turned his back on Barcelona (which goes to show where we may end up if we don't act properly with Ronaldo, by the way).

Perhaps I exaggerated with that £10m figure, but that's what I've heard from my Barcelona-supporting mates. £20m more like it, although with them offloading Dos Santos (labelled as the biggest talent since Messi) for £4m, anything could really happen there. They will have money coming in from elsewhere, Deco and Eto'o should easily generate about £40m combined.
 
you never know they might give him to us for free after the franco comment in that Sir Alex press conference awhile back now ;)
 
Red Pavan said:
Offcourse, no offense to ronaldo but when Ronaldinho plays the game and when is at his best, no one can stop him or take the ball of him. Even if he marked, he just simply stuns you and takes the game away form you in an instance, like chelsea found out with the dancing feet.

I have every respect for ronaldo (probably the only one in the caf) but, ronaldinho is simply sublime at his very best.
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I regard Ronaldo as an excellent player, in spite of that I don't think he's as much of a match-winner that Ronaldinho once was. I could've seen that yesterday. When Portugal needed him to lift the team and do something out of ordinary to keep them in the tournament, he kept popping the ball at the keeper or losing the plot in his dribblings, he has done very little to contribute even though people say that he's on top of his form (which, I think, is not the case at the moment and hasn't been since March or April).

In a situation like that, Ronaldinho scored a brace against Chelsea in the Champions League. They did end up losing the game 4-2 and out of the competition, but they got close to qualifying only because he was there to give them that spark of hope. The same goes for a CL semi-final a year after, when Barcelona couldn't break Milan and he turned up with a sublime pass to Giuly, with Gattuso on his back.

Then there's that game at Bernabeu, when he absolutely humiliated Real, scoring two goals. He even got a standing ovation there, which wasn't the case for Barcelona players for 20 years.

Ronaldo comes handy when we play against weaker teams, he usually destroys them on his own. I think he's yet to produce a sort of magificent performance against a very good team in a crucial moment, i.e. when United are down by a goal and chasing the result etc. A sort of performance that would make me wonder 'How the hell did he do that?'.
 
Oh my... Drama queens or rather queers, Cold Boy and Sarni have taken over the thread... Calm the feck down ffs.
 
Sarni said:
I regard Ronaldo as an excellent player, in spite of that I don't think he's as much of a match-winner that Ronaldinho once was. I could've seen that yesterday. When Portugal needed him to lift the team and do something out of ordinary to keep them in the tournament, he kept popping the ball at the keeper or losing the plot in his dribblings, he has done very little to contribute even though people say that he's on top of his form (which, I think, is not the case at the moment and hasn't been since March or April).

In a situation like that, Ronaldinho scored a brace against Chelsea in the Champions League. They did end up losing the game 4-2 and out of the competition, but they got close to qualifying only because he was there to give them that spark of hope. The same goes for a CL semi-final a year after, when Barcelona couldn't break Milan and he turned up with a sublime pass to Giuly, with Gattuso on his back.

Then there's that game at Bernabeu, when he absolutely humiliated Real, scoring two goals. He even got a standing ovation there, which wasn't the case for Barcelona players for 20 years.

Ronaldo comes handy when we play against weaker teams, he usually destroys them on his own. I think he's yet to produce a sort of magificent performance against a very good team in a crucial moment, i.e. when United are down by a goal and chasing the result etc. A sort of performance that would make me wonder 'How the hell did he do that?'.
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Very interesting analysis. So you subscribe to the 'he's not a big game player' school then? (talking about Ronaldo here, obviously)
 
Cold_Boy said:
He actually is.

Ronaldinho is the most talented football player I have seen apart from the Fat one.
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Ronaldinho is much more talented than Ronaldo when he turns it on, that's why at the right price signing him is worth the risk. Negotiations are supposed to be at an advanced stage for Ronaldinho though (speculation). I wouldn't be that suprised if he did turn up at Old Trafford next season :lol:
 
ThatOldRedMagic said:
Very interesting analysis. So you subscribe to the 'he's not a big game player' school then? (talking about Ronaldo here, obviously)
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No, he actually plays relatively well in big games. Just not as well as the likes of Zidane or Ronaldinho used to, if you know what I mean.
 
fergieisold said:
Ronaldinho is much more talented than Ronaldo when he turns it on, that's why at the right price signing him is worth the risk. Negotiations are supposed to be at an advanced stage for Ronaldinho though (speculation). I wouldn't be that suprised if he did turn up at Old Trafford next season :lol:
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the amount of wums around here this summer have been of epic proportions. no need to add to it mate.
 
fergieisold said:
Ronaldinho is much more talented than Ronaldo when he turns it on, that's why at the right price signing him is worth the risk. Negotiations are supposed to be at an advanced stage for Ronaldinho though (speculation). I wouldn't be that suprised if he did turn up at Old Trafford next season :lol:
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Is that just you speculating..? or other people too?
 
fergieisold said:
Ronaldinho is much more talented than Ronaldo when he turns it on, that's why at the right price signing him is worth the risk. Negotiations are supposed to be at an advanced stage for Ronaldinho though (speculation). I wouldn't be that suprised if he did turn up at Old Trafford next season :lol:
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forgive my ignorance, I thought City were leading the charge (or do the negotiations you refer to allude to City?)
 
Sanada said:
So what's the ronometer saying these days??
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Sarni said:
I regard Ronaldo as an excellent player, in spite of that I don't think he's as much of a match-winner that Ronaldinho once was. I could've seen that yesterday. When Portugal needed him to lift the team and do something out of ordinary to keep them in the tournament, he kept popping the ball at the keeper or losing the plot in his dribblings, he has done very little to contribute even though people say that he's on top of his form (which, I think, is not the case at the moment and hasn't been since March or April).

In a situation like that, Ronaldinho scored a brace against Chelsea in the Champions League. They did end up losing the game 4-2 and out of the competition, but they got close to qualifying only because he was there to give them that spark of hope. The same goes for a CL semi-final a year after, when Barcelona couldn't break Milan and he turned up with a sublime pass to Giuly, with Gattuso on his back.

Then there's that game at Bernabeu, when he absolutely humiliated Real, scoring two goals. He even got a standing ovation there, which wasn't the case for Barcelona players for 20 years.

Ronaldo comes handy when we play against weaker teams, he usually destroys them on his own. I think he's yet to produce a sort of magificent performance against a very good team in a crucial moment, i.e. when United are down by a goal and chasing the result etc. A sort of performance that would make me wonder 'How the hell did he do that?'.
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You´ve disappointed me Sarni. For two years Ronaldo played a major part in United winning the league and then again league + CL and what´s more with absolutely incredible form and yet from your comparison he seems like a poor looser. I would like to see Ronaldinho to do that here in England, especially after the WC 2006 and environment he had to return to. We may ask: "How the hell did he do that?"
 
fergieisold said:
Ronaldinho is much more talented than Ronaldo when he turns it on, that's why at the right price signing him is worth the risk. Negotiations are supposed to be at an advanced stage for Ronaldinho though (speculation). I wouldn't be that suprised if he did turn up at Old Trafford next season :lol:
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Tabloid tripe at its best. United have not contacted Barcelona regarding Ronaldinho.

I'm not saying that transfer won't happen though.
 
Giggsy PO said:
You´ve disappointed me Sarni. For two years Ronaldo played a major part in United winning the league and then again league + CL and what´s more with absolutely incredible form and yet from your comparison he seems like a poor looser. I would like to see Ronaldinho to do that here in England, especially after the WC 2006 and environment he had to return to. We may ask: "How the hell did he do that?"
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I agree. To say that Ronaldo is not a big game player is bullshit in my opinion. He's scored against everyone. There was talk of him having never scored against chelsea yet in the champions league FINAL he scored that beautiful goal. That was a moment of magic. Sarni's a good poster and I like him. I think his emotions may just be getting the better of him here.
 
Giggsy PO said:
You´ve disappointed me Sarni. For two years Ronaldo played a major part in United winning the league and then again league + CL and what´s more with absolutely incredible form and yet from your comparison he seems like a poor looser. I would like to see Ronaldinho to do that here in England, especially after the WC 2006 and environment he had to return to. We may ask: "How the hell did he do that?"
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I don't see how doing this in England is any different from doing this in Spain. He won exactly the same trophies with Barcelona that Ronaldo won with United, apart from FA Cup which, actually, he didn't have a chance to win.

I've never denied Ronaldo's class. I've just pointed out that Ronaldinho may have had more at his best.
 
the amount of wums around here this summer have been of epic proportions. no need to add to it mate.
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Not winding anyone up, I love watching Ronaldinho play, and for me when he turns it on he surpasses Ronaldo.

Is that just you speculating..? or other people too?
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It's supposed to be quoted from Barcelona FC, but I don't trust anything I read these days!

Is that just you speculating..? or other people too?
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Is that just you speculating..? or other people too?
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Yes they were the last time I heard, but despite this I doubt city would be a first choice for him. I'm just thinking out loud about him coming to Manchester United, I don't think it will happen, but it's probably not out of the question :)
 
cekscrayons said:
Tabloid tripe at its best. United have not contacted Barcelona regarding Ronaldinho.

I'm not saying that transfer won't happen though.
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Let me just clarify, The article I read suggested negotiations were at an advanced stage for Eto, Ronaldinho and Deco to move to other clubs. Not Manchester United (that we know of) :D

Sorry for any confusion :angel:
 
Sarni said:
I don't see how doing this in England is any different from doing this in Spain. He won exactly the same trophies with Barcelona that Ronaldo won with United, apart from FA Cup which, actually, he didn't have a chance to win.

I've never denied Ronaldo's class. I've just pointed out that Ronaldinho may have had more at his best.
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You´ve pinpoint some magic moments of Ronaldinho and selectively condemned Ronaldo to the position "he beats only the lesser teams"...what is absolutely untrue. (Ronaldo produced several moments of brilliance against big teams too).
 
ecantona7 said:
I agree. To say that Ronaldo is not a big game player is bullshit in my opinion. He's scored against everyone. There was talk of him having never scored against chelsea yet in the champions league FINAL he scored that beautiful goal. That was a moment of magic. Sarni's a good poster and I like him. I think his emotions may just be getting the better of him here.
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I've never said that he plays badly in big games, because he clearly doesn't! Especially after last season, it would've come across as a big nonsense to say that he doesn't perform in big games.

I thought he was excellent against Liverpool at Old Trafford, although he started playing like that after we had gone 1 up and played with one extra player, which eased some pressure. Nevertheless, he had a go at them in the right way. He was very good against Arsenal at Emirates, scored a goal and got an assist. He didn't do much against Chelsea in the league though.

My point wasn't that he plays badly when a good team comes along. It was that I rarely feel confident with him lifting us in crucial moments, thing Ronaldinho or Zidane did with their teams frequently. The two moments of last season that came close were CL final and Roma game, where he truly excelled with those two goals. But when we go back and think of difficult times, well, he wasn't the one we relied on usually.
 
ecantona7 said:
Sarni, didn't ronnie's header against roma make you step back and say "how the hell did he do that?" I can honestly say that was probably the greatest header I've witnessed in my lifetime.
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I've just pointed it out in my other post. It was one sign of him developping into a player that could go on to win us every game, regardless of the opposition. Stunning goal. Had he produced a few more moments like this, I'd have said he was on par with Ronaldinho in terms of delivering in crucial moments.
 
Giggsy PO said:
You´ve disappointed me Sarni. For two years Ronaldo played a major part in United winning the league and then again league + CL and what´s more with absolutely incredible form and yet from your comparison he seems like a poor looser. I would like to see Ronaldinho to do that here in England, especially after the WC 2006 and environment he had to return to. We may ask: "How the hell did he do that?"
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i would like to see that cocksucker winning all that shit without Scholes, Rooney and Rio Ferdinand doing all the job for him to score tap ins
 
Valentino said:
i would like to see that cocksucker winning all that shit without Scholes, Rooney and Rio Ferdinand doing all the job for him to score tap ins
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Easy there. Most of time he did everything on his own, with his rather selfish gamestyle (not as selfish as it used to be though) he'd rather take a Hollywood shot than do anything else. And they've been going in most frequently. I cannot think of many players who would have scored a similar amount of excellent goals in one season.
 
Sarni said:
My point wasn't that he plays badly when a good team comes along. It was that I rarely feel confident with him lifting us in crucial moments, thing Ronaldinho or Zidane did with their teams frequently. The two moments of last season that came close were CL final and Roma game, where he truly excelled with those two goals. But when we go back and think of difficult times, well, he wasn't the one we relied on usually.
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Wasn´t 1:1 at Fulham a difficult time?
 
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