He's on 120000 a week before tax isn't he? 26 x 120000 = £3120000 which is just over 3 million pounds...not to mention bonuses...
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He's on 120000 a week before tax isn't he? 26 x 120000 = £3120000 which is just over 3 million pounds...not to mention bonuses...
I agree with Jason ,Fergie himself said" we only let players go if we want them to go".
He's not done anything!
FIFA say that Real Madrid have done nothing.
It's all paper talk.
No.
Ah well. I'm only speculating that I'd like to fine him - hit him where it seems to hurt him. Perhaps there are no valid grounds for doing that
Still, the point remains, if he leaves, he isn't going for cheap
Still, the point remains, if he leaves, he isn't going for cheap
All right, I'm bored of this again and tired.
I'm off back to bed.
Somebody let me know if we sign him or if somebody has an albino shit.
I'm off back to bed.
Somebody let me know if we sign him or if somebody has an albino shit.
Is this guesswork, or somebody apart from the club and himself actually know?
isn't that widely reported to be true? I only know as much as you but you seem very confident that 6months pay is nowhere near £3million...schupsta
are you his agent or what?
ever heard of "breach of contract"?
ever heard of a contract?
Several times told lie becoming a truth? Who would think that?
Aren't there 52 weeks?
If it worked that way what the feck would be the point of a freakin contract you muppet!? If 'contracts aren't worth the paper they're printed on', as some other fool suggested earlier, why should expensive officials spend months and months wrangling over the details? Of course United hold all the cards; that 's why players are under contract to the clubs which invest so much time, money and effort in improving them.
Both mid-season, therefore irrelevant. We've got a couple of months to "re-stock" if the Portugeezer goes.
Clearly the fee, if it came to that, should not only show Ronaldos value but also our contempt that madrid have persisted making comments about a player under contract without getting agreement from the club first
We're in a unique situation. When Ronaldo wins world player or European player of the year, he should still be at the club. You don't sell these players
Talk of 40million, I don't think is likely. If we did sell, we have an chance here to ask for a sum we can accept.
They said it's a problem between player and club, which is quite insulting. People might think 100m? crazy talk. It's not. This is the way the game is going and if we sell at 40, we may as well give our players away.
I hope he stays, i'm sure he'll stay because i don't believe he will cause any problems should we point out we said no. However, if we did sell then other players can step up and we can further strengthen the squad
We don't want to have to do it, but the biggest crime we could make is sell him for 40million. Madrid have said they can afford it, because they planned this. I don't think Ronaldo thus far has gone the lengths they wanted him too so the price is still in our hands. Let's not do them any favors. They've not exactly shown us any respect.
I think 100million because of the circumstances would do or maybe one or two of their better players +£££
ps: weaste the boy loves his football. it's highly unlikely he would walk away like that
We're in a unique situation. When Ronaldo wins world player or European player of the year, he should still be at the club. You don't sell these players
Talk of 40million, I don't think is likely. If we did sell, we have an chance here to ask for a sum we can accept.
They said it's a problem between player and club, which is quite insulting. People might think 100m? crazy talk. It's not. This is the way the game is going and if we sell at 40, we may as well give our players away.
I hope he stays, i'm sure he'll stay because i don't believe he will cause any problems should we point out we said no. However, if we did sell then other players can step up and we can further strengthen the squad
We don't want to have to do it, but the biggest crime we could make is sell him for 40million. Madrid have said they can afford it, because they planned this. I don't think Ronaldo thus far has gone the lengths they wanted him too so the price is still in our hands. Let's not do them any favors. They've not exactly shown us any respect.
I think 100million because of the circumstances would do or maybe one or two of their better players +£££
ps: weaste the boy loves his football. it's highly unlikely he would walk away like that
That IS cheap you fool! And Ruud's role in adding value to the brand? Comparable with Beckham and Ronaldo you believe? Look - I may not know nearly so much about the techniques and strategems of the game of football as many of you guys, but that at least allows me to look beyond the end of my nose. Ronaldo is a mega asset to the club he's contracted to; in the context of the great game of global brands, he' virtually irreplaceable.
£40m is about a tenth of his true value. If you think it's 'a realistic price' thank feck we don't have your likes on the management!
No, we improved because the team that followed was more mature and better. Ruud was just unlucky to play with inferior players most of the time, the only season when the rest of team played to their abilities 2002/03, in which we played some very good football.
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If you think that £40m is a tenth of his true value, then thank feck you are not anywhere near boards of football teams or we'd have ticket prices at £4k a game to make £400m signings possible.
£40m is not cheap, had United gone out and spent that on any player, the caf would go mental about how we are overpaying. Obviously Ronaldo is worth more, probably £60m to £70m, but the point is that Real may not be willing to pay that at this moment in time. They'd rather wait another year and have him a lot cheaper.
I don't even think they could afford £400m you're talking about, paid in dividends over 15 years.
Thing is, throughout everything, he still refuses to give a clear statement. He's obviously angling for Madrid, but then trying not to totally burn bridges with United. For me it looks like he'll definately ask to go - Real may well have told him it's now or never, just to make sure - but if United are insistent he's not going this summer, he'll get on with things. I don't think we'll see a strike or anything like that.
I don't know, it's a tough one. One second I'm thinking 'just sell the f*ck*r', next I wonder if it's not silly to give up so easily on a player like that. And besides, the idea of Real again getting their man after behaving in such manner, is disgusting. For that alone I would not sell him.
I don't know, it's a tough one. One second I'm thinking 'just sell the f*ck*r', next I wonder if it's not silly to give up so easily on a player like that. And besides, the idea of Real again getting their man after behaving in such manner, is disgusting. For that alone I would not sell him.
Madrid won't come and pay us £100m for a player that wants to join them desperately and has seemingly gone out of favour with both fans and management.
not in half a year no
Er...Real Madrid have been damned fools enough to estimate his potential value at £500m. Go tell Calderon he's a fool (I hate the fecker, but he's not a fool when it comes to spotting an uber asset)
How can a football player possibly be worth £500m? You build stadiums for money like that.
It depends how you view the situation. Would Ronaldo rather kill himself then return to Old Trafford? No. Reports of him being unhappy as far as I can see are just that. The money aside if you talk the talk you have to deliver. I don't believe Ronaldo would be unhappy having to wait. I think that is the key.
If you think he would then obviously you'd look at 40million as reasonable but we don't know enough yet. As it stands we don't have to sell him and madrid, if they want to purchase him have to have the funds. The fact they cannot afford it isn't our problem.
As long as it stays like this we're in a position of strength. Let's hope it remains this way and I think it will because I don't think Ronaldo is despirate enough to leave, to say the things madrid want him to say in order to push the price down
additionally united should be confident when Ronaldo returns being among his mates etc will refocus the boy. We know what Ronaldos like, let's not be hasty -we cannot afford to be. The club will sort it out.
With Uniteds stance of not wanting to sell , even if Ronaldo requests a transfer the value for a team that does not want to sell would only increase. So if we are to believe the press and ill take that with a pinch of salt that United and rightly so shall get has much has possiable of there star man , while at the same time showing the fans that it was not the club but the player that wanted out.
Not only that, but which normal thinking footballer would do that, especially to risk several individual trophies?
40m realistic. 
Does that include option for them to get Evra for 10m too? 
Does that include option for them to get Evra for 10m too? Spot on.
Ronaldo is on some type of retainer with all the english newspapers , the longer he takes to make up his mind the more there going to sell this can be the only explanation for the reason for him keeping every one on tender hooks. Christ this saga is worse than Who Shot JR.
Ask Calderon (but image-deals, sponsorship deals, marketing, TV deals - it goes on and on. No-one is suggesting a club would part with a sum anywhere near that to acquire such an asset but to sell that same asset for substantially less would in effect be tantamount to making a whopping donation to the rival club
40m realistic.
I don't think its laughable.
We are known to sell players on the cheap and I bet we won't sell him more than 50 mil pounds.
More proper? I dont know. But I take the point from your different analogy.
In yours, Munich is a parent, rather than a girl, and in our comparible situation United is the parent. Would you really give a feck what a girl's parents say anyway, if it is true love? What sort of play would Romeo and Julliet be if it ended with Romeo saying, "you are well fit and Id love to give you one but my old man hates yours, so I'd better not?"
Make no mistake about it: Ronaldo is in love with Madrid.
The point is: Hargreaves wanted to play for us. Ronaldo wants to play for them. Munich didnt want H to go. We dont want R to go.
Ultimately it is always going to look like we are victims to some people, but the fact is, life is a bitch and all we can do is move on.
Inflation means little in the world of football these days, in football when everyone is cash rich prices go through the roof but when everyone has overspent then they come down again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_(football)
Just look at that list there, 10 of all time top 12 transfers happened between the boom time of 1999-2002 this was a time when there was a lot of money going around and if you look back since 2002 there have been a few big moves around but many clubs spent beyond their means during that time and suffered for many years afterwards. I don't know what Ronaldo will go for but some people seem to be pretty sure he will go for £80mill+, not so sure myself. Even though Man utd don't want to sell these days players dictate everything and if he refuses to play for you (which is what the R.Madrid targets usually are advised by R.Madrid) and R.Madrid offer (e.g) £40mill even if Fergie might have £60mill in mind he has to take the club forward and will know it is wiser to cash in now rather than keep an unhappy player who will further destabilise the club. I don't know what is going to happen if I'm honest and a few months ago I thought these rumours were rubbish but the fact he has been directly asked so many times yet is avoiding the question and won't commit leads me to believe he does want out. Guillem Balague might like to make a rumour or two up (he is a journalist, they get paid to do that, or so it seems) I doubt he is going to make a whole interview up but yet again Ronaldo seemed to be avoiding the question and comments like "We were competing and I didn’t want to say anything because it is a very important decision . I didn’t want to say anything here because I wanted to be focused on Portugal. But now it is finished and I am going to say" are very strange and indicate he might want out assuming this interview is correct.
What exactly makes us a selling club? Selling your players when they aren't good enough or have reoccurring injury problems doesn't make you a selling club and those reasons account for the sale of Henry, Vieira, Overmars and Petit. You lot sold RvN, Beckham and Stam off as well and those guys proved they still had a few good years in them as well so that does make your club a selling club as well? We proved over the years when we really wanted to hold onto a player Vieira being a prime example we would dig our heels in and not let him go no matter what, the Vieira stories were coming out every summer since 2000 and he left in 2005 I believe, during those years R.Madrid and along with your club decided to illegally approach the player to get him to move but we resisted all efforts. We would of got 2 or 3 times as much for him if we had sold him 3 or 4 years earlier, same applies for Henry so if we are a selling club the concept of selling the players at their peak value hasn't quite clicked yet.....
Every player that united have sold cheap is because Sir Alex wanted rid , this case is slighty different lets start the bidding at 60 million and take it from there.
Devil's Advocate
If I was a Real Madrid supporter (not even in my dreams) I wud be thinking very seriously about this whole thing based on the following points:
1. Wud I like someone as un-loyal as Ronaldo in my team? If he can be unloyal to United what stops him from doing the same to Real.
2. What wud the Real dressing room be like? Here you have a player earning over 200K a week. How wud the other players earnning not even 50% of that deal with it? Is it really in the best interest of the team to have a distraction like him around?
3. Is the club who has 7 managers in the last 6 years interested in football or money?
If I was a Real Madrid supporter (not even in my dreams) I wud be thinking very seriously about this whole thing based on the following points:
1. Wud I like someone as un-loyal as Ronaldo in my team? If he can be unloyal to United what stops him from doing the same to Real.
2. What wud the Real dressing room be like? Here you have a player earning over 200K a week. How wud the other players earnning not even 50% of that deal with it? Is it really in the best interest of the team to have a distraction like him around?
3. Is the club who has 7 managers in the last 6 years interested in football or money?
Ronaldo's gonna get screwed too...he'll burn his bridges at united then REal will offer him a similar contract to what he is on now and he'll have no choice but to take it, they're bastards they'll rape us, they'll rape him. Rape the fecking rapist that's what i say...schupsta
Its about how good he is at football that matters, mate. And besides, he gave to united five years of his career.
Ronaldo has spend most of the last 4 years saying he wants to play for Madrid. So I doubt they are worried about his loyalty.
And the club has a history of galacticos. So I dont think having one earning a massive salary is going to be new territory for them.
On the last point - yes, but what has that got to do with signing Ronaldo?
I have a question if and that is a big IF Ronaldo is going to leave is he leaving United who at this moment are clearly a better team is he leaving for
A) To become a better player?
B) To play with better players?
C) Show me the money?
D) Childhood Dream
Because if its D then Real should offer him less than United and see what happens.
But of coarse we all know this is just paper talk.
A) To become a better player?
B) To play with better players?
C) Show me the money?
D) Childhood Dream
Because if its D then Real should offer him less than United and see what happens.
But of coarse we all know this is just paper talk.
Actually we have positioned ourselves very well. Our constant refusal to even consider the possibility of Real getting a bargain are nil. Unlike Beckham, when we went into the market ourselves.
Then don't think Ronnie is gonna refuse to turn up or even start crying in public for a move. He is too much of a global player now to do that. He knows there is a good chance United won't sell no matter what and hence has not come out and completely alienated himself from us. Looks set to take over from Ronaldinhio as the new Nike icon and knows will need to perform week in, week out to fend off likes of Messi.
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