We'll only be allowed 11 on the pitch even if Ron leaves.
ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation
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We'll only be allowed 11 on the pitch even if Ron leaves.
ah...thread still going strong despite, surprise, surprise, 'Calderon Admitting Defeat in Pursuit of Ronaldo' (TM).
Ronaldo will be going exactly nowhere, folks. Madrid will be left high and dry and with egg on their faces. good times!
Ronaldo will be going exactly nowhere, folks. Madrid will be left high and dry and with egg on their faces. good times!
According to the Portuguese reports - Ronaldo's 30 second "interview" with the Spanish reporters.
Can we expect news in the coming days over your future?
"I certainly hope so."
When?
'Soon'
Soon when?
"In two or three days, I hope."
To put that timing in context. He's got a night off (with his family) tonight and will travel to Switzerland tomorrow. If the Spanish papers are right
then he'll see SAF there prior to Portugal playing their first Euro match on Saturday.
Can we expect news in the coming days over your future?
"I certainly hope so."
When?
'Soon'
Soon when?
"In two or three days, I hope."
To put that timing in context. He's got a night off (with his family) tonight and will travel to Switzerland tomorrow. If the Spanish papers are right
then he'll see SAF there prior to Portugal playing their first Euro match on Saturday.Said it before and I'll say it again, as long as Fergie is at united Ronaldo ain't going nowhere.
As has already been mentioned on this thread the godfather is a rabid Real Madrid supporter who, furthermore, loathes United. He might well be using reflected glory part of ronaldo's extended family to indulge himself in a little fantasising.
There's only one person to listen to here, and it ain't no godfather
There's only one person to listen to here, and it ain't no godfather
I'd go much further than this and suggest that those worried about Scolari's remarks are really falling for the media spin of putting these side by side with their own and other remarks about a possible move to Real.
Look at the remarks again and tell me if, without the unproved existence of another unquoted remark which directs these quotes at the Real situation, there is anything sinister at all in Scolari's remarks:
What's the major, unavoidable context in which these remarks occurred?
Ronaldo is about to lead the Portugese team in a major competition which provides a rare opportunty for success. To my mind the obvious meaning is that Ronaldo must grasp the chance to excel in this competition - don't rely on another chance coming along in the future. It's only quoting those remarks in the contexts set up by the author of the article that has caused people to get so het up.
June 1, 2008
Fergie: I’ll drop Ronaldo rather than sell to Real
MANCHESTER United are so determined not to sell Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid that they would let him rot on the sidelines rather than cave in to pressure should the player and the Spanish champions try to force through a move. The hardline stance was spelt out by Sir Alex Ferguson and comes directly from the Glazer family, who control United. For United’s American owners, standing up to Real has become a point of principle and they are understood to have echoed in private the vow that Ferguson has made publicly - not to allow the Spanish giants to “ride roughshod” over their club.
“The thing people miss the point about is that I’ve had a couple of meetings with the Glazers,” said Ferguson. “Their attitude is ‘to hell with them’ (Real). They would sit a player in the stand. There’s absolutely no doubt about it. They’d do it just to prove a point and not to give in to these people. They’ve got balls, I can tell you. I’ve been delighted with them in that respect.”
It is believed that Real are ready to test United’s resolve, however, by lodging a world record bid for Ronaldo of as much as £70m. Though Ramon Calderon, the president at the Bernabeu, made comments on Thursday that appeared to end his club’s interest in Ronaldo, it is suspected these were merely to head off United’s threat to report Real to Fifa over their previously public pursuit of the player.
Real will continue private efforts to land Ronaldo and hope that the player can be pressured to drive the transfer himself by asking for a move. The Spaniards believe that this, coupled with the extraordinary sum they are willing to pay, could tempt United to sell. However, the Glazers appear to be standing firm The six children of United’s owner, Malcolm Glazer - Joel, Avram, Bryan, Kevin, Edward and Darcy - were in Moscow for the Champions League final, staying at the United team hotel, and spoke informally to Ferguson about priorities for the summer transfer window. Retaining Ronaldo is top of the list and a letter has reportedly been sent to Real informing them United will not sell their superstar, even if he asks for a move.
Carlos Queiroz, Ferguson’s No 2, stoked up the ill-feeling between the clubs by accusing Real of a “lack of ethics”, and although Calderon has said Real were “not going to start a conflict” over Ronaldo, it has failed to defuse United’s anger. The European champions are upset by comments from Real they believe were aimed at unsettling their player, including the statement from coach Bernd Schuster that the Spaniards have suspended other transfer business in order to concentrate on signing Ronaldo - “a big priority”.
Speaking at Portugual’s Euro 2008 training camp, Ronaldo continued to give the impression his head had been turned by Real’s interest, saying he would “have news” about his future after the championship.
Ferguson, though, is confident his bosses will back his fight to keep his star and had a message for supporters who fought against the Americans’ takeover in 2005. “They (the Glazers) have been good to this club. They’ve been brilliant owners,” he said. “All the nonsense about them taking the club over and putting it in debt . . . every takeover is done by debt. If I wanted to buy Marks & Spencer do you think I could just go under the floorboards and pull out £3bn? No, I’d go to the Bank of Scotland.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article4040513.ece
Fergie: I’ll drop Ronaldo rather than sell to Real
MANCHESTER United are so determined not to sell Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid that they would let him rot on the sidelines rather than cave in to pressure should the player and the Spanish champions try to force through a move. The hardline stance was spelt out by Sir Alex Ferguson and comes directly from the Glazer family, who control United. For United’s American owners, standing up to Real has become a point of principle and they are understood to have echoed in private the vow that Ferguson has made publicly - not to allow the Spanish giants to “ride roughshod” over their club.
“The thing people miss the point about is that I’ve had a couple of meetings with the Glazers,” said Ferguson. “Their attitude is ‘to hell with them’ (Real). They would sit a player in the stand. There’s absolutely no doubt about it. They’d do it just to prove a point and not to give in to these people. They’ve got balls, I can tell you. I’ve been delighted with them in that respect.”
It is believed that Real are ready to test United’s resolve, however, by lodging a world record bid for Ronaldo of as much as £70m. Though Ramon Calderon, the president at the Bernabeu, made comments on Thursday that appeared to end his club’s interest in Ronaldo, it is suspected these were merely to head off United’s threat to report Real to Fifa over their previously public pursuit of the player.
Real will continue private efforts to land Ronaldo and hope that the player can be pressured to drive the transfer himself by asking for a move. The Spaniards believe that this, coupled with the extraordinary sum they are willing to pay, could tempt United to sell. However, the Glazers appear to be standing firm The six children of United’s owner, Malcolm Glazer - Joel, Avram, Bryan, Kevin, Edward and Darcy - were in Moscow for the Champions League final, staying at the United team hotel, and spoke informally to Ferguson about priorities for the summer transfer window. Retaining Ronaldo is top of the list and a letter has reportedly been sent to Real informing them United will not sell their superstar, even if he asks for a move.
Carlos Queiroz, Ferguson’s No 2, stoked up the ill-feeling between the clubs by accusing Real of a “lack of ethics”, and although Calderon has said Real were “not going to start a conflict” over Ronaldo, it has failed to defuse United’s anger. The European champions are upset by comments from Real they believe were aimed at unsettling their player, including the statement from coach Bernd Schuster that the Spaniards have suspended other transfer business in order to concentrate on signing Ronaldo - “a big priority”.
Speaking at Portugual’s Euro 2008 training camp, Ronaldo continued to give the impression his head had been turned by Real’s interest, saying he would “have news” about his future after the championship.
Ferguson, though, is confident his bosses will back his fight to keep his star and had a message for supporters who fought against the Americans’ takeover in 2005. “They (the Glazers) have been good to this club. They’ve been brilliant owners,” he said. “All the nonsense about them taking the club over and putting it in debt . . . every takeover is done by debt. If I wanted to buy Marks & Spencer do you think I could just go under the floorboards and pull out £3bn? No, I’d go to the Bank of Scotland.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article4040513.ece
Yeah right. Im sure he admitted to defeat, he is simple trying to not get into any trouble.
"Glazers have balls", declares Fergie
Could that be counted as a blow job?
This is the bit of the article I liked:
The European champions are upset by comments from Real
The European champions are upset by comments from Real
It does seem to involve getting other people to blow his trumpet.
If Ronaldo wanted to leave we should just sell him immediately, none of this playing in the reserve nonsense. If someone doesn't want to play for the club they shouldn't be here.
Ronaldo is a slave.
Sell him for a record bid I'd say.
He shows no love for the club whatsoever after all the years, the ups and downs ... I'm getting fed up with him.
He shows no love for the club whatsoever after all the years, the ups and downs ... I'm getting fed up with him.
An Avram G won, then, after all.
Sarcasm or are you being serious?
Serious like.
Fecking good one
Fecking good one
Huh? I don't understand what you mean here.
I really hope it doesn't come to that. But Ronaldo and Real have been negotiating in the press for the last two weeks, so now it's Ferguson's turn to do so. If all Ronaldo wants is a renegotiation of his contract terms, he has chosen an exceptionally poisonous way of doing it, needlessly so in my opinion. I hope this doesn't go on forever, like many people I find the whole business distasteful. Not an outrage, not disgusting. But distasteful nonetheless.
This statement from SAF suggests this is now beyond just idle speculation.
It has been for a while, reckon he is staying though, and if he does he will be the first name on the team sheet like always
Ronaldo either leaves, or he'll out to come out with some pretty convincing words how he loves Manchester, the team, and Fergie.
hurrah....
I'd love to think so and I agree.
I mean, all the people getting fed up with the stories and expecting him to come out and say he's not moving... Who does that? Aside from Benzema - a young player in his first full season. Which world class players have come out and said feck off to Real Madrid?
They don't do it - Because it raises their profile, it raises their wages and thats just how footballers and their agents are.
Ronaldo has said as close to "I'm staying this summer" as we can expect and perhaps next year he'll be off. Who knows? But he hasn't said anything wrong and we cannot expect him to do something no other player does, just because he is our player.
Besides all the constant linking and quotes are the price to pay for having a truly world class footballer at the pinnacle of the game. As long as he's not coming out and saying he'd like to move and moving on - I dont have much of a problem with it. He shows his true colours on the pitch and this season he's been the key reason why we have achieved what we did. Hats off to him, he's an exceptional player and a Manchester United player too, until he comes out and says he's off.
He's simply sat on the fence, which is arguably the worst thing he could do.
If he wanted to he could firmly have dismissed these rumours, but simply has fuelled them. It's fair enough that he wants to play for Madrid one day, if that's now he might as well go ahead and say it directly rather than beating around the bush.
It show's a disrepect for the club that's made him what he is today, and his adoring fans.
I don't want him to go for the purely obivous footballing reasons, and I take great pride in having the best player in the world at the club I love, but he really isn't endearing himself to the fans right now.
If he wanted to he could firmly have dismissed these rumours, but simply has fuelled them. It's fair enough that he wants to play for Madrid one day, if that's now he might as well go ahead and say it directly rather than beating around the bush.
It show's a disrepect for the club that's made him what he is today, and his adoring fans.
I don't want him to go for the purely obivous footballing reasons, and I take great pride in having the best player in the world at the club I love, but he really isn't endearing himself to the fans right now.
I'm bored of this now. If he wants to go, let him......to be totally honest, I'm beyond caring.
That feeling seemed to be the way things are done in football, if a player wants to go then it is better to let him leave. I have never really understood that.
But the statement supposedly by Fergie: I’ll drop Ronaldo rather than sell to Real, is more in keeping with North American attitudes to professional athletes. The NFL, NBA, MLB and the NHL have a history of players who asked to be traded only to have their owners say no. The opinion of the North American owners seem to be that a contract is a contract, and we will only trade you if it benefits the team.
Sultan, don't you fall for this too...
Those are not quotes. It is the title some muppet with a press pass made up to seel papers. Just have patience. I am fairly sure this is all going to be over soon and Ronny will still be ours
.Ronaldo just doesn't seem very intelligent to me.
''I will give news in 3 days''
feck off ronaldo, i actually want him to go. but for no less than 80m.
I dont want to hear the fans sing his name anymore. hes an arrogant self obsessed fecker and he and madrid deserve each other!
(put that in your pipe and smoke it)
feck off ronaldo, i actually want him to go. but for no less than 80m.
I dont want to hear the fans sing his name anymore. hes an arrogant self obsessed fecker and he and madrid deserve each other!
(put that in your pipe and smoke it)
When Nani, Anderson, or even Tevez start to become better players, expect Real Madrid to do the same. The fans just have to cope with it.
Ay, I've had that impression recently too. He's playing all sides at the moment is Cristiano, and I'm not happy at all
I'd love to see one of these players who thinks they can move when they like, a big name, rot in the reserves. Now we're in private ownership, its possible. I don't think it's realistic when you're owner by shareholders on the market. I don't want it to be us who does it... but it would certainly go some way to addressing this player power nonsense. Players shouldn't be allowed to fleece the club for more money, then demand a move with 4 years left on their contract. It's not on
The loyalty United fans show to Ronaldo, as the focus of the majority of our singing at times, is looking rather hollow right now... but I'm comfortable. I just want it decided one way or another. If he goes, I shall barely bat an eyelid considering the money he'd cost
While I agree with you that if he expresses a desire to leave, we should let him go. I don't agree with the notion that it won't affect us if he left. The fact we won the league by two points (Could have been only GD and Arsenal were just 4 off) and CL on pens, shows how small the margins are. Selling the best player in the world who is the focal point of our team at the moment would certainly set us back one way or another.
I've gotten to the stage of disliking Ronaldo now. He's been a brilliant player for us no doubt, but as the old adage goes, nobodys bigger than the club. He's shown very little class or respect through this ordeal, seems like he'd fit in perfectly there.
Also these Scolari comments:
"We have been talking a lot, as I have been an older friend and have given him some advics," Scolari said. "Football does not live off memories, football is oportunities and sometimes if we do not take them, they won't appear a second time."
"We will support him regardless of his decision. He will always be one of ours. Cristiano's Euro 2008 will be very good - no club matter will cause him sleepless nights."
...more or less confirm that he is thinking of leaving as an option.
"We have been talking a lot, as I have been an older friend and have given him some advics," Scolari said. "Football does not live off memories, football is oportunities and sometimes if we do not take them, they won't appear a second time."
"We will support him regardless of his decision. He will always be one of ours. Cristiano's Euro 2008 will be very good - no club matter will cause him sleepless nights."
...more or less confirm that he is thinking of leaving as an option.
Yes, but plenty of clubs recover and move on quickly. We're far from a one man team. Who knows, it may even bring the best out of Rooney, more onus on him, to once again carry us like he did a couple of seasons ago! And with the amount of money Ronaldo will cost, I think it likely a top quality replacement could be found. Maybe we take a small knock, but I'd rather have a good atmosphere at the club with players who want to be here
Although I'm partially to the reserve rotting if things get ugly. We'll see
If he does decide he wants to go then I would give Barca a call sell him to them.
I wonder what Nani is thinking in all of this he must be spending alot of time with Ronaldo at the moment.
I wonder what Nani is thinking in all of this he must be spending alot of time with Ronaldo at the moment.
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