I urge Scolari to shut up
ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation
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Well there probably is a need when the national coach of Portugal comes out and says our player is off to another club.
There is already a massive thread on this, whats the point when all the others get moved or deleted.
Its kind of old news actually.
Its kind of old news actually.
Precisely, yet he does the exact opposite in interviews I've heard and stokes it
It's extremely classless of him, and the people around him, and in this case Scolari
Our long term view of this lad is going to suffer because of all this, and its a shame because he could become a true United legend here. Sadly he's not made of the same ilk as Scholes, Giggs, Rooney etc. When do you ever see any of them showing anything other than full committment to the club?
If Ronaldo wants to play for Madrid at some point in the future, fine. But while he's here, he shouldn't utter a word, keep it to himself. He hasn't done that, and now we have this ridiculous circus around it all. If he doesn't want to be here next year, he shouldn't have signed a bloody 4 year contract should he
Why get all worked up about it ? If he goes he goes if he stays he stays. He will be replaced , just like all the other great players who have come and gone before him .
No player is bigger than Manchester United
No player is bigger than Manchester United
this has been posted twice in that big Ronaldo thread...
Sell him for mega cash and by Kaka. We'd be much better off.
How old? First time ive seen these quotes.
Spot on.
fecking cnut,Ronnie has just won the european cup and He wants him to move.To better His career ? No chance,Is there some kind of agenda or jealousy towards the English league it would seem so.You can't live on memories,wtf when your older that's all you have and if winning trophies and playing out your skin isn't something to look back on then what is.
United > Madrid
Only a day old or something like that. I just meant it has been covered in the thread that it has now been moved to.
Which part of all Ronaldo future/comments/speculation don't you understand
Fergie has gone to the Euros not to speak to Ronaldo, but to batter Scolari
I don't think its about getting worked up, its just very dissapointing to see how the player and his entourage - and the media and Madrid of course - act in these situations
The club have done right, they've come out and said he's going nowhere. That's the end of the speculation really, he's under contract, his value will deminish little having 3 years left on a contract rather than 4, for his own sake he should just come out and categorically end the speculation he's helped stoke
I don't want to see us lose our best players. But if he goes, he goes, and like you say, new players come in and represent this fine club. I just prefer that while they are at the club, they act with a tad more class and uphold the fine traditions this club has built its foundation upon
I think you are half right. To be fair to him he did come out and say few weeks ago that his heart was in Manchester and has said plenty of times he will stay. There is basically a new story everyday, he can not respond to all. As someone said, his godfather may well be after a few bucks himself. I doubt he was that close to him he would publicise what was said to him in private.
It is not that simple. He may have mentioned to the club that he wanted to leave in two season and we would still force him to sign a 4 year contract so that we can get more money when he moves.
Exactly
Maybe those pics of his GF have pissed him off.
Another factor is in continental Europe, Real are seen as a bigger club than us. For Portugese Real over United is a no-brainer.
So it' is no surprise all these people being interviewed want him to make the move to Real.
So it' is no surprise all these people being interviewed want him to make the move to Real.
I've heard those words come out of his mouth ay. I've also heard words that directly contradict those statements, or keep the possibility of moving open
I think it is that simple though. No one is forced to sign a contract. If he doesn't want to play here, he can let his current one dwindle, and he'll soon get his move to the club he desires to play for if they want him. What 'forces' him to sign is that he wants much more money, and you only get that by re-committing yourself to the club.
I agree 100%. Ronaldo could end this anytime he chooses but chooses not to . If he wants to go let him go and get as much money for him as we can get . He wont be the first to realise that the only place you go after United is down
Wtf, is Scolari for real? How the hell is going to Real an opportunity he can't miss? We've done back to back league titles and we are the European Champions. FFS, what's wrong with these feckers?
Yeah, increase in wages as well but also with the transfer fees. A player on last year of his contact won't fetch that much. Many a times clubs know they will have to sell the player in future but have him on longer contract to fetch more. Lot of players don't wanna act like complete cnuts and walk away for free or very less money.
It's very much possible that Ronnie signs another extension but is sold in next two seasons.
Scolari being a WUM again
with so many cnuts willing to bite, its no wonder that people are encouraged to make up more bollocks and stick it on some web site.
It seems that some randomly made up transfer bollocks gets more publicity these days that a genuinely well written piece about football.
It seems that some randomly made up transfer bollocks gets more publicity these days that a genuinely well written piece about football.
Scolari was deliberately ambiguous in his phrasing - at no point (in Portuguese!) did he suggest that a move to Real would be good for Ron.
He did make the observation that you can't live on memories and that some chances only come along once. As a red I take that to mean the chance to win three PLs on the trot, a couple of CLs, become one of United's all time top 20 goalscorers, and compete for absolutely everything next year.
Whereas the chance to play for Madrid - who were the best when Ron's godfather and Scolari were kids and therefore have more going for them on the memory side - will be there as long as Ron's on form and Madrid have money.
But that's all spin of course as is the way the Spanish tabloids took the words to mean Scolari tells Ron to ask for a transfer and the UK press have followed suit.
The Portuguese press were actually perfectly content with the ambiguity - which might say something about the Portuguese.
He did make the observation that you can't live on memories and that some chances only come along once. As a red I take that to mean the chance to win three PLs on the trot, a couple of CLs, become one of United's all time top 20 goalscorers, and compete for absolutely everything next year.
Whereas the chance to play for Madrid - who were the best when Ron's godfather and Scolari were kids and therefore have more going for them on the memory side - will be there as long as Ron's on form and Madrid have money.
But that's all spin of course as is the way the Spanish tabloids took the words to mean Scolari tells Ron to ask for a transfer and the UK press have followed suit.
The Portuguese press were actually perfectly content with the ambiguity - which might say something about the Portuguese.
You mean that the Portuguese are indecisive cnuts?
Now you're spinning my words Or I could be being deliberately ambiguous.
I'll let you know in a couple of weeks.
Or I could be being deliberately ambiguous.
I'll let you know in a couple of weeks.
If Ronaldo continues to entertain this bullshit and tease everyone with his silence and indifference he'll never become a United legend. He could end up being disliked if he decides to be ungrateful and walk away.
There are no footballing reasons why he would want to swap United for Madrid. It is about wanting to be a hero in Madrid and the weather. If that is what Ronaldo is really made of, if he is that shallow, then they can have him for £100m +!
I think anybody who worries about us not winning the title etc if he goes are doing the rest of the team an injustice. A decent wing replacement and a top striker with some height and presence would fill the void.
There are no footballing reasons why he would want to swap United for Madrid. It is about wanting to be a hero in Madrid and the weather. If that is what Ronaldo is really made of, if he is that shallow, then they can have him for £100m +!
I think anybody who worries about us not winning the title etc if he goes are doing the rest of the team an injustice. A decent wing replacement and a top striker with some height and presence would fill the void.
A decent wing replacement and a good striker would not fill the void in the slightest. Firstly all of our play goes through him or Rooney really. Not many players could do what he dos for us(Messi is the only one off the top of my head). Secondly I very much doubt that the two players put together would even score 42 goals.
Ronaldo may not be bigger than the team but he is big enough for us to have to be able to accept he may have some flaws.
Selling the best player in the world is senseless.
Ronaldo has just said that he will say something about his future in two or three days.
Hmm - whatever he does, he'll still be legendary. I would like to distinguish between him being a legend, and being legendary. To me he is legendary because his goals propelled us to the double this year. Remember, its only the 3rd time in our history we've won it. Don't anyone dare say to me we wouldn't have won either the PL or CL without him...
As for being a legend - him fecking about isn't gonna get him a statue, like.
I think it's more senseless to expect Ronaldo himself to replace those 42 goals next season. Seasons like his last don't come along often. And to expect him to reproduce it once, much less for the next 3-5 years is very presumptious. If he wants to leave, we will sell him. And if so, replace him we will. United is bigger than Ronaldo. And his success is a testament to United just as United's is a testament to him. There are proper wingers that could offer a comparable impact to our squad. There aren't any as adept at scoring, but that just means the other players in the squad will have to adjust their roles. And I can think of a few players, Rooney in particular, who might benefit greatly from that change.
That's fair enough, but people weren't expecting him to score any more than 30 goals this season, he does defy logic at times.
He doesn't want to leave, or at least I very much doubt he does. But if he does, then fine, sell him. What you said was that since he was toying with us fans through the media, we should sell him, basically.
Selling Ronaldo would set us back a year imo, we could recover because we always do, but I don't think it's practical to sell him yet.
He can still improve, so even if he does leave next year, we should still be able to get as much if not more money for them, he is only 23 so this will most certainly not be his best ever season.
Rooney would definitely step it up but I would rather keep the team the way it is, just with one more striker.
I look forward to watch him on the tube saying that he's now the world's best paid footballer. /end of thread
I think he might improve for next season, but I agree that he may struggle to score quite so many goals again. Incredible season, he could win the World Player of the Year award the next four seasons running and still not match that goal tally. Then again, he might, who knows.
And if he does leave, which I hope he does not, I too think some of his productivity would be replaced by improvements in other current players, especially Rooney. Just in his overall attitude alone, Rooney seemed to sublimate his scoring, and his desire to be the fulcrum of the team, because of Ronaldo's presence and Rooney's desire for the team to win. That said, if Ronaldo does stay, I hope Rooney improves his productivity anyway, and would be willing to bet that he does.
I don't want him to leave at all, much less now. But I think he wants to and will no later than 2010. My opinion is merely that he should be allowed to if he desires, and we would do well to go ahead and add a young winger now to give him a chance to have his bearings once Ronnie does go. Nani will prove to be a useful player, but obviously we'll need something more when the day comes. I do get annoyed with the sheer number of stories daily, some of them almost instigated by Ronnie himself. But by no means do I want him sold over it. I just wish he would show more respect to the club, and I see the reality of the situation.
He's clearly loving this.
Well then I agree with you.
I take very little notice of what is said about him in the media because the fact is no-one in the media actually knows what is going through his head and until he comes out with a definitive statement there really is no point in caring.
I'll be happy if he decides to leave or stay. But I would never want him kicked out because he comes across as arrogant. I think it is all just an act on the pitch to portray a certain image, like Tiger Woods, he thinks about everything he does.
Well except when he is away off with prostitutes, but that again could just be to get in the headlines.
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