ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

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Feedingseagulls said:
Go back and check Ronaldo's actual words Brad - none of them state he wants to play for RM next season - none say he wants to transfer away from MUFC this summer - several say he wants to stay.

It's only the media re-interpretations that your diseased brain buys into that state he wants to go this summer. Wake up and smell the roses Deidre!
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He said "I want to play for Madrid" when asked about the current transfer saga, and indicated if the two sides agreed terms, he'd go. He was also realistic to admit it's not up to him, given he has 4 years left, if we don't want to sell, we're under no onus too

Now you can argue til you're blue in the face with this, but your head is stuck in the sand. It's quite fecking obvious he wants to go to Madrid, this wouldn't have dragged on to this point - a day before his countries first game in Euro 2008 - and remained unresolved. He wouldn't have made statements that indicate he has a decision to make. He wouldn't have told us he didn't know where his future lies. United aren't going to sell him if he wants to stay, so the only 'logical' conclusion - I know you like them - is that he wants and is angling to be at Madrid next season. Whether he goes though isn't up to him
 
This idle speculation shit is going to continue for weeks and weeks in the media. However, 20 fecking seconds of either Ronaldo or his agents time could end all of this speculation once and for all one way or another.

The fact that nobody truly has a fecking clue whats going on is what is upsetting most of us United fans

As stated before i'm sick to death of it all. Its getting ridiculous, Beckham circus x a million!

If he goes i'll be gutted. If he stays and wants to play for the club i'll be delighted! But however this turns out Manchester United will still be Manchester United and that is all that really matters.
 
jasonrh said:
Didn't you just say that "all" of his quotes were consistent with his leaving?

Now when it is pointed out that "u r sayin bullshits", as a famous Cafite once said, you're changing your tune.
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Brad said:
No, I didn't. I've said several times now he's making contradictory statements, playing to the United supporters and playing to the Madrid supporters. It's particularly sly behaviour

Of course, I wouldn't actually expect you to actually read what I have to say... just whinge about what you want to think I've said
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Errm...

Brad said:
Why do you assume that? You truely think this is all just a ploy to get a new contract still? Anyone with half a brain knows Ronaldo has signed his last contract for United now, it's merely a question of when he goes. His behaviour indicates he would like it to be now, but the 4 years he has left remaining here makes that extremely problematic. Your assumption is simple class A bullshit, you've picked a theory out of the air and are trying to pass it off as reality, when actually all his remarks are 'consistant' with him wanting to leave, but knowing it's essentially not his decision to make, he's bound by his contract
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Note the highlighted section Brad!
 
jasonrh said:
Bradley makes an idiot out of himself.

Again.

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Ronaldo is paid the same amount of money as Wes Brown apparently :rolleyes:

His remarks are consistant with him wanting to leave. He also knows it isn't in his hands, hence trying to keep United supporters onside perhaps? Not that I've seen him say anything like 'I stay' since the European Cup final, and a lot has happened since. He knows he could have ended this speculation by now, but instead he stoked it. You're a fecking tool if you can't see that

You're a fecking tool even if you can actually
 
Pogue Mahone said:
So, in your opinion, he chose the most emotional night of his life to start being "sly" and manipulating the emotions of Manchester United fans?
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THE will now ignore his previous statement, and claim that Ronaldo said these things not to be sly, but because he wanted to stay until he became seduced by Real.

Or something.
 
I'm going out in a minute and won't be logging back on until the morning. I fully expect this thread to have exceeded 6500 post by then. Jesus its gonna be a long summer!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Brad said:
Ronaldo is paid the same amount of money as Wes Brown apparently :rolleyes:

His remarks are consistant with him wanting to leave. He also knows it isn't in his hands, hence trying to keep United supporters onside perhaps? Not that I've seen him say anything like 'I stay' since the European Cup final, and a lot has happened since. He knows he could have ended this speculation by now, but instead he stoked it. You're a fecking tool if you can't see that

You're a fecking tool even if you can actually
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You said ALL of his statements are consistent with him leaving.

Wesley Brown aside, do you think as the best player in the world he is worth more money than he's on right now?

I do.
 
Feedingseagulls said:
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Note the highlighted section Brad!
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fecking hell, so I used the word 'all', big fecking deal

His behaviour is consistant with him wanting to leave. I've also been quite clear that I believe he's making contradictory statements. And I haven't seen anything that says for definate he's staying since he decided he had some kind of decision to make

Why did he say he has a decision to make after saying 'I stay' on the TV cameras after the Champions League final? If he's so certain of staying, why would he do that Feeding eh?
 
jasonrh said:
THE will now ignore his previous statement, and claim that Ronaldo said these things not to be sly, but because he wanted to stay until he became seduced by Real.

Or something.
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It's all quite simple. After Ronnie swa the astronomical figures that Madrid and Marca were pushing around he had to stop and think. That's why he's said, and I repeat, "I'll go to Madrid if they put their money where their mouth is" (or words to that effect). And you can bet your dog's balls that negotiations are going on right now with all parties about those figures. That's why I want to know what those figures really are.
 
What he's said has been on the face of it contradictory. Clearly he wants to go to Real Madbuggers but the main question is "when?". That is up for grabs as he has clearly also said he wants to stay here. Maybe he's after a new contract (however I don't think he'll get one after all this) - maybe he's just delighting in the publicity/notoriety.

Maybe United will refuse to let him go, maybe there will be a price that United will accept.

Who knows, it's all purely speculation and we vprobably won't know any more for two or three weeks. I can't believe this thread has got so big with people going round and round in circles.

I just thought I would add to the general alarm and despondency in this thread. Lol.
 
jasonrh said:
You said ALL of his statements are consistent with him leaving.

Wesley Brown aside, do you think as the best player in the world he is worth more money than he's on right now?

I do.
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You said Brown gets paid the same as Ronaldo, which is absolutely incorrect. You don't see me acting like a 14 year old highlighting in in big red letters like a chump. I've made clear precisely what I was saying, how do you justify your complete inaccuracy?

I think if Ronaldo signed a new contract last year, you don't get a pay increase every season you play well. If he has a poor season next, should we slash his wages?
 
Pogue mate your a doctor, you can just prescribe yourself a valium or something can't you?

If you think this thread is stressful now can you even imagine whats its gonna be like if Ronnie does go? Half the Cafe will be on suicide watch!
 
jasonrh said:
No.

Players who have served 3 years of a contract for players under 28 is correct.

But Ronaldo signed a new contract just before last year, so he wouldn't be at the 3 year threshold until 2010. He'll only be 26 then, so the 2 year provision does not kick in.
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ah great . thanks ..
 
while i believe that he will stay 4 at least another season, any future deal thinking into selling him should involve their keeper : Iker Casillas, lets hit them where it hurts.
 
Feed Me said:
Ronaldo thinks he has outgrown us. He is treating the club with real disdain every time he comes out with one of his veiled flirtations or says that he will decide in due course.
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Spot on. United is no circus and he's moving in the wrong direction. He's going too far and pisses everyone off in order to get his move. So it be then, Madrid should bleed and pay us an unbelievable sum.

We might lose the best player in the world... but United will move on, no doubt. Others will come in
 
Pogue Mahone said:
All one of them. Alleged remark, that is.
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I reckon he and Brad think all those remarks about being interested in playing for RM sometime in the future definitely mean he wants to move this year. They also think that when he hopes to be able to say something soon that means he is definitely making a decision about staying or going soon.

:lol:

They also probably think that he would choose the period just before a major competition for his country to announce an intended (but not agreed) move - with all the uncertainty and pressure that involves - rather than hoping to put paid to all the speculation with the confirmation of a new contract. SAF must have been wrong about Christiano being intelligent then. :angel:
 
Garethw said:
Pogue mate your a doctor, you can just prescribe yourself a valium or something can't you?

If you think this thread is stressful now can you even imagine whats its gonna be like if Ronnie does go? Half the Cafe will be on suicide watch!
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I'm fecking off to Bali for 3 weeks next Wednedsay. And won't darken the doors of this place again until after the Euros.

Meanwhile, I consider it my hippoccratic duty to haunt this thread, trying to pour oil on the troubled waters of "The Ronaldo Thread" (c). Healing hands, via t'internet. No fee necessary.
 
Tareq said:
while i believe that he will stay 4 at least another season, any future deal thinking into selling him should involve their keeper : Iker Casillas, lets hit them where it hurts.
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Except that the player has to agree to move in order for the deal to go through. Which means Robinho is probably a more realistic target. Although I prefer Silva, much more intelligent.
 
The Express' current take on it all........

FERGIE LOSING GRIP AS RONALDO TALKS OF MOVE


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REAL MONEY: Cristiano Ronaldo


Friday June 6,2008

By Tony Banks in Neuchatel


CRISTIANO RONALDO will give the cold shoulder to Sir Alex Ferguson when the Manchester United manager arrives at Portugal’s Euro 2008 HQ in a last-ditch bid to persuade the winger to stay at Old Trafford.




Concerned Ferguson is preparing to fly from his holiday base in France to Switzerland in the next few days after Ronaldo said yesterday: “Yes, I would like to play for Real Madrid.”


Under normal circumstances no international manager would allow club business to interfere with preparations for such a major tournament, least of all one which Luiz Felipe Scolari’s Portuguese team are among the favourites.


But Scolari wants Ronaldo’s mental state, described by friends as “turmoil”, settled once and for all to allow him to play properly.


So he will let Ferguson into the camp – if the player wants it. However that seems unlikely, with Ronaldo fuming over comments made by Ferguson last week that he and United would rather let the brilliant young forward rot in the stands than sell him to Real.


The prospect of the Footballer of the Year’s world-record £50million switch to the Bernabeu is closer than ever, especially after Real’s latest offer – of £300,000 a week – was revealed by the Daily Express yesterday.


Portugal’s opening Euro 2008 game against Turkey in Geneva is looming tomorrow, but a source within their camp told the Daily Express last night: “We understand that Ferguson will be coming out to talk to Cristiano.


“Scolari is a sensitive man. He wants Ronaldo’s mind to be settled so he can play his best football for Portugal. Normally he would not allow a club manager into the camp. But he cares about his players.


“If Ronaldo wants to see Ferguson he will let him, just to put an end to this.”


Ronaldo is non-committal about his future even though Real’s very public overtures have provoked furious reactions from United.


But yesterday there were reports in Spain that Ronaldo has told his family he wants to go to the Bernabeu.


Then, last night, speaking to a Brazilian website, he said: “Yes, I would like to play for Real Madrid, but only if it is true that they are ready to pay what Manchester United ask.


“It does not depend on me. It is important for me to send this message out. From now on I will say no more about it.”


Ferguson will fight tooth and nail to keep a player who scored 42 goals last season as United won the Champions League and the Premier League. Ronaldo still has four years of his contract left to run.


Last night United affirmed the position taken up by Ferguson and the Glazer family hierarchy.


“There is no change,” they said. “It is just the same as yesterday, the day before and the day before that. Cristiano Ronaldo is not for sale.”


Portuguese FA president Gilberto Madaiol last night indicated they wanted the weight of the dilemma removed from the player: “What happens to Cristiano is not our problem. He is a strong boy physically and mentally. He knows what he wants.


“Our problem is to have the best Ronaldo on the field for these next three weeks. That is our problem.”



Ronaldo’s mother, two sisters and grandfather arrived here in Switzerland last night to support him at Euro 2008. And showing how confident he is of Portugal’s progress, he booked their house for three full weeks. It is not just Ferguson, though, who believes Ronaldo should not go to Madrid.


Ronaldo’s agent, Jorge Mendes, is also worried about the potential move, according to friends, because he fears the nightlife-loving player will be distracted by the bright lights of Madrid. Weighed against that is a wish to cash in on a player at the peak of his powers.
 
Brad said:
fecking hell, so I used the word 'all', big fecking deal

His behaviour is consistant with him wanting to leave. I've also been quite clear that I believe he's making contradictory statements. And I haven't seen anything that says for definate he's staying since he decided he had some kind of decision to make

Why did he say he has a decision to make after saying 'I stay' on the TV cameras after the Champions League final? If he's so certain of staying, why would he do that Feeding eh?
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Try this analysis...

ALL his behaviour is consistent with him wanting to stay at MUFC next season but being willing to move to RM in the future.

NOT ALL his behaviour is consistent with him wanting to move this year.

These are both true statements - which suggests the evidence is in favour of him staying. :angel:
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I'm fecking off to Bali for 3 weeks next Wednedsay. And won't darken the doors of this place again until after the Euros.

Meanwhile, I consider it my hippoccratic duty to haunt this thread, trying to pour oil on the troubled waters of "The Ronaldo Thread" (c). Healing hands, via t'internet. No fee necessary.
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Sweet! You lucky bugger.
 
Feedingseagulls said:
I reckon he and Brad think all those remarks about being interested in playing for RM sometime in the future definitely mean he wants to move this year. They also think that when he hopes to be able to say something soon that means he is definitely making a decision about staying or going soon.

:lol:

They also probably think that he would choose the period just before a major competition for his country to announce an intended move - with all the uncertainty and pressure that involves - rather than hoping to put paid to all the speculation with the confirmation of a new contract. SAF must have been wrong about Christiano being intelligent then. :angel:
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You are completrely ignoring what he said yesterday. You obviously don't believe the report. When the Guardian, Times, Telegraph and Independent all accept it as gospel I tend to think there' something in it. Take your head out of the sand. (Actually, I'm just about to go and put my head in the sand!)
 
BahamaRed said:
Ronaldo’s agent, Jorge Mendes, is also worried about the potential move, according to friends, because he fears the nightlife-loving player will be distracted by the bright lights of Madrid. Weighed against that is a wish to cash in on a player at the peak of his powers.
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Found this interesting, if not doubtful. But if it's true then he's a pretty decent guy to worry about his client's future rather than the lump sum that he would make from a potential record transfer.
 
Garethw said:
If you think this thread is stressful now can you even imagine whats its gonna be like if Ronnie does go? Half the Cafe will be on suicide watch!
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Ah, no. If he goes, we'll remember that, "United is the bus that waits for no one," and we'll move on.

I'll be sad - because I wanted to see the new team reach its full potential, and because I wanted to see Ron reach his full potential (whereas once he leaves I won't be tha bothered whether he does or not). The PL will have less fun and insane genius to go with its speed, hard work and fighting spirit.

And then the football season will start and I'll still watch every United match like the good addict I am and we'll find some new songs. And next year someone else wil be ahero and someone else will leave and... that's one of the great things about football - there's always next season.
 
Portuguese TV claims that Fergie is in Switzerland right now and that he is going to visit Ronaldo after tomorrow's match against Turkey.
 
Feedingseagulls said:
Try this analysis...

ALL his behaviour is consistent with him wanting to stay at MUFC next season but being willing to move to RM in the future.

NOT ALL his behaviour is consistent with him wanting to move this year.

These are both true statements - which suggests the evidence is in favour of him staying. :angel:
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Bullshit
 
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