ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

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BahamaRed said:
What Ronnie has said, if it is to be believed, is that if Real put their money where their mouth is, he'll go. What I want to know is...what monies are we talking here...300K for him, 70M for United? That's big money. For Ronnie AND United. I do believe this is being negotiated behind the scenes right now, with Real and the Glazers, SAF and Gill, Mendes and Real (and Ron's mum)
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It should be 100m and then we will give it a moments consideration.
 
lorcanjc said:
This thread is becoming very annoying. All rational thought has been suspended and we are now entering the world of ubber muppetry!!

The last quote I have actually seen that I'm 100% came from Ronaldo was when he wanted to stay at United next season.
Whether he said he dreams of playing for Madrid one day or not I couldn't give a flying monkeys.
As far as I concerned he is staying until he says otherwise
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Good for you.
 
BahamaRed said:
What Ronnie has said, if it is to be believed, is that if Real put their money where their mouth is, he'll go. What I want to know is...what monies are we talking here...300K for him, 70M for United? That's big money. For Ronnie AND United. I do believe this is being negotiated behind the scenes right now, with Real and the Glazers, SAF and Gill, Mendes and Real (and Ron's mum)
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I would imagine it's very big money. And it's all in the hands of the Gill and the Glazers.

Mind you, as Jojojo keeps pointing out, Real aren't exactly awash with cash, so they may have been hoping for a much stronger response from Ronaldo, to try and drive the price down a bit.

Time will tell.
 
If United don't want to sell, why would they sell? Yeah, yeah - I know the emotional argument, but why would a business sell? Particularly a business that might want to deliver a warning to rival clubs, and even to its own players, and who might as we talk about non-news of the day be asking Nike to redraft their contract with the lad as well (after all it's them who get the shirt revenues)

I don't think Ron wanted to move (yet) but Real Madrid have succeeded in making him think about his future sooner than he'd expected. I don't know many 23 year olds who, offered twice the salary to move to a similar job - the one they were thinking of applying for in a couple of years time - wouldn't even think about it. I also think he doesn't want to say, "No," if it's at the risk of not getting the same offer again and maybe even would rather have United say no for him.

If Ron's as arrogant as some caftards believe, such concepts as, "It may be my only chance," "I might be stretchered off in the next game," "I might not be as good next season," will never even occur to him and he can (and should) turn down Madrid flat - knowing they'll just offer more after the Euros, after he gets WPOTY and wins a second CL. Or maybe even he wonders about how long a life in football really lasts.
 
question , can ronaldo buy out his contract next summer ?

thats the only thing bothering me atm ..

wasnt it 2 years (to buy out) for players over 28 and 3 years for players under 28


can ronaldo stay for a year .. and leave for ~ 20m next summer ?
 
If we take a record fee for the lad then every player we want to replace him with gets their price artficially inflated as well. Not really a winning situation for us right now.
 
redevil2 said:
You really have a problem with logic, do you??

What I meant was why you kept taking his side giving him excuses to justify his action is beyond me! You seem to think he has done the right thing for himself and it is acceptable.

He owed United nothing, but that doesn't mean I can't show my sentiment on the whole matter!
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redevil2 said:
Since you have been living in a cave, you are the clown! Spend some time reading posts helps!
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redevil2 said:
Fair enough foreign players may not have the sentiment we expect from Englishmen, and they can do the utmost for their own good, to the extent they harm the club's business interest. But you also have to bear in mind it's not simply because he is a foreign player (which is one of the reasons you used to 'JUSTIFY' his action and behaviour). You seem to have forgotten we have so many foreigner players who'd shown the passion and loyalty towards the club! So there is really flaw in your argument, and in your justification of his action basing on the fact he is foreign.

It's not about we being shocked or not, but we at United were not used to have players having their way showing such disrespect to the club.

As to your question about whether clubs would sell at the right price, you are not getting anywhere, aren't you? Running a club is running a business so it's always business decision. What has it got to do with my condemnation of the player who has done everything to damage our business interest?
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redevil2 said:
Well said!
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redevil2 said:
Well, we would say FIFA will be wrong if they are only punished slightly without repercussion! That's what rules against tapping, and law of contract is about. If the Authority who has the power to make a proper decision on merits, and the fans (and anyone else) believe they have no power or guts to make the right decision, do we still have faith in the Authority?

I know I know... those men in suits in FIFA have little guts to do the right thing! But that doesn't mean we should be deterred to do the right thing, i.e. making a formal complaint!
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Christ.

How the hell did your father manage to find your mum's vagina, so thick must your parents be to create such a total mongoloid of a child?
 
Brad said:
You've got a bloody cheek calling anybody boring Feeding :nono:



Why do you assume that? You truely think this is all just a ploy to get a new contract still? Anyone with half a brain knows Ronaldo has signed his last contract for United now, it's merely a question of when he goes. His behaviour indicates he would like it to be now, but the 4 years he has left remaining here makes that extremely problematic. Your assumption is simple class A bullshit, you've picked a theory out of the air and are trying to pass it off as reality, when actually all his remarks are 'consistant' with him wanting to leave, but knowing it's essentially not his decision to make, he's bound by his contract
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That would include the many statements of 'I stay' or 'I want to stay' would it? :lol::lol::lol:

(It's 'consistent' btw.)
 
Mates if you wanna keep the bullshit talk and non sense here go ahead.

This topic will go after the Euro 2008 and that's for a month and later.

Good luck I'm off (for real) for the betterness of my health and sanity.
 
prateik said:
question , can ronaldo buy out his contract next summer ?

thats the only thing bothering me atm ..

wasnt it 2 years (to buy out) for players over 28 and 3 years for players under 28


can ronaldo stay for a year .. and leave for ~ 20m next summer ?
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No.

Players who have served 3 years of a contract for players under 28 is correct.

But Ronaldo signed a new contract just before last year, so he wouldn't be at the 3 year threshold until 2010. He'll only be 26 then, so the 2 year provision does not kick in.
 
£70m is peanuts.

I can't believe they wouldn't rake in multiples of that - and us lose similar amounts, if the transfer went ahead.

Who's got the figures on the Beckham thing?

£70m doesn't even sound close.
 
Feedingseagulls said:
Blah, blah, blah.

Look at some examples of what he actually definitely said:

1 'I (want to) stay.' (Repeatedly.)

2 'I have dreamt of playing for Madrid.'

3 'No one knows the future' - (eg. even though I might want to stay, Utd might want to sell me.)

4 'I hope to be able to say something about my future in 2 weeks / 2-3 days'.

Those are the actual recorded quotes - you've just been reading the media spin on those as if that was what he said or intended.

Some examples:

You ignore 1 - or assume that it is contradicted by 2 because you interpret that as 'I want to play for RM now'.

2 - see above.

3 - you read this as him saying he is undecided or keeping his options open - yet when Ronaldo insists only God knows the future he is not saying anything like your interpretation.

4 - you think this means he is saying there is a decision pending over whether he is moving or not (as opposed to the details of a possible new contract etc.)

If we assume that Ronaldo may well 'want to stay' but doesn't want to feel that he is being taken advantage of then he would say 'I want to stay' but will delay confirming this will take place until contract negotiations result in him being satisfied Utd recognise his worth.

All Christiano's remarks are consistent with the latter. His frequent and repeated remarks about him staying are not consistent with him wanting to move.
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Bradley is a self-righteous drama queen of epic proportions over this issue.

Introducing logic and facts into this is unlikely to change most people's emotions.
 
Feedingseagulls said:
That would include the many statements of 'I stay' or 'I want to stay' would it? :lol::lol::lol:

(It's 'consistent' btw.)
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He's telling both sides what they want to hear, why is that such an alien concept to understand? If he had said nothing to the contrary of that statement, this saga wouldn't still be ongoing. It's also funny that people believe quotes from Ronaldo where he indicates he'll stay, but dismiss as nonsense those that say he'll go. Wishful thinking?

(You're a pompous 'twat' btw)
 
Brad said:
He's telling both sides what they want to hear, why is that such an alien concept to understand? If he had said nothing to the contrary of that statement, this saga wouldn't still be ongoing. It's also funny that people believe quotes from Ronaldo where he indicates he'll stay, but dismiss as nonsense those that say he'll go. Wishful thinking?

(You're a pompous 'twat' btw)
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Didn't you just say that "all" of his quotes were consistent with his leaving?

Now when it is pointed out that "u r sayin bullshits", as a famous Cafite once said, you're changing your tune.
 
jasonrh said:
Bradley is a self-righteous drama queen of epic proportions over this issue.

Introducing logic and facts into this is unlikely to change most people's emotions.
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fecking hell, you consider that to be logic?!

Wes Brown will be pleased he's on over £100,000 a week by the way... I saw the guff you stated earlier

There's nothing drama queen about it, it's assessing the situation for what it is. Most of the 'respected' reds seem to think there's something going on, and it's damaging for the reputation of the club at the least. Most of those I would consider to be muppets are busy stating how everyone else is a muppet...
 
Brad said:
He's telling both sides what they want to hear, why is that such an alien concept to understand? If he had said nothing to the contrary of that statement, this saga wouldn't still be ongoing.

If he's dead set on leaving, why tell United he wants to stay? What could he possibly gain by doing that?

Brad said:
It's also funny that people believe quotes from Ronaldo where he indicates he'll stay, but dismiss as nonsense those that say he'll go. Wishful thinking?
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Maybe because about staying was captured on television. Twice. And the quote about leaving is second-hand and published by a Madrid-based journalist.
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jasonrh said:
Didn't you just say that "all" of his quotes were consistent with his leaving?

Now when it is pointed out that "u r sayin bullshits", as a famous Cafite once said, you're changing your tune.
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No, I didn't. I've said several times now he's making contradictory statements, playing to the United supporters and playing to the Madrid supporters. It's particularly sly behaviour

Of course, I wouldn't actually expect you to actually read what I have to say... just whinge about what you want to think I've said
 
I hope Ronnie knocks England out of the 2010 WC just to further piss the ABUs off
 
Brad said:
He's telling both sides what they want to hear, why is that such an alien concept to understand? If he had said nothing to the contrary of that statement, this saga wouldn't still be ongoing. It's also funny that people believe quotes from Ronaldo where he indicates he'll stay, but dismiss as nonsense those that say he'll go. Wishful thinking?

(You're a pompous 'twat' btw)
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Go back and check Ronaldo's actual words Brad - none of them state he wants to play for RM next season - none say he wants to transfer away from MUFC this summer - several say he wants to stay.

It's only the media re-interpretations that your diseased brain buys into that state he wants to go this summer. Wake up and smell the roses Deidre!
 
Pogue Mahone said:
If he's dead set on leaving, why tell United he wants to stay? What could he possibly gain by doing that?
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Perhaps convince certain United supporters there's absolutely nothing going on, and that everybody who thinks there is is a deluded muppet? :smirk:

Those who balance the whole situation, instead of clinging to just one of his statements, see how he's making contradictory remarks and telling a different story to different audiences
 
Feedingseagulls said:
Go back and check Ronaldo's actual words Brad - none of them state he wants to play for RM next season - none say he wants to transfer away from MUFC this summer - several say he wants to stay.

It's only the media re-interpretations that your diseased brain buys into that state he wants to go this summer. Wake up and smell the roses Deidre!
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If you believe the report, and I do, he said "I want to play for Real Madrid". "I will go if Real are serious about their offers"
If you can't see, after all that's been said and done (and more importantly, not said and done), that he is angling to go if the price is right, then you're not very smart.
 
Brad said:
You've got a bloody cheek calling anybody boring Feeding :nono:



Why do you assume that? You truely think this is all just a ploy to get a new contract still? Anyone with half a brain knows Ronaldo has signed his last contract for United now, it's merely a question of when he goes. His behaviour indicates he would like it to be now, but the 4 years he has left remaining here makes that extremely problematic. Your assumption is simple class A bullshit, you've picked a theory out of the air and are trying to pass it off as reality, when actually all his remarks are 'consistant' with him wanting to leave, but knowing it's essentially not his decision to make, he's bound by his contract
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Bradley makes an idiot out of himself.

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