True, that. Although if Queiroz became manager he might have an outside chance of persuading Ronaldo to stay longer.
If he's still here then of course.
ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation
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True, that. Although if Queiroz became manager he might have an outside chance of persuading Ronaldo to stay longer.
If he's still here then of course.
Bump. There's a reason you were promoted so quickly. Has anyone given a good reason why the club would want to sell? Ronaldo is a driven professional and will surely maintain his form if he's told to stay. I'd keep him at the club until the end of his contract, for both football and commercial reasons.
I'm of the opinion that if he really wanted to go, we couldn't keep him.
dont have one.just saw this on Tv from the live press conference from Scolari that just ended.
It'll be all over the media shortly then, I guess.....
You're ignoring the crucial points - when and how much does he actually 'want' to play for RM?
He hasn't said he 'wants' to go NOW or at any specific time.
He hasn't said that that 'desire' to play for RM has to be fulfilled - he hasn't said that it over-rides any other desire - such as developing further in his existing supportive environment.
Many people experience conflicting desires - 'wanting' things that are mutually incompatible - what we end up doing is choosing between them at different times. 'Actually, I'd rather do this than that, even though I wanted to do that - maybe I'll be able to do that later - or maybe there'll be something I prefer even more by then.'
Ronaldo 'wanting to play for RM' is only a problem for you because you place the worst-case interpretation upon it.(...and that's assuming it wasn't just an inaccurate paraphrase of him being willing/happy to play for them.)
You don't half utter a lot of fanny bullshit
If he didn't want to go to Madrid this summer, he wouldn't have let this saga drag on so long. He could come out on TV now and be quite categorical that he isn't going anywhere, without any of that crap that contradicts himself and leaves the possibility of him leaving this summer open. But he hasn't. He's waiting to see if Madrid can come up with an acceptable offer to United which allows him to leave now; Madrid are trying to achieve maximum unsettling and leave us thinking we have no option but to sell. It's frankly standard practice, and more some reason plenty of folk seem to be deluding themselves, shutting their eyes and pretending nothings going on, it's all a media conspiracy. It isn't
probably. they asked Scolari about him going to Chelsea and he said that hes only focused in the Euros and that only after the Euro he will decide his future.
Yes, unless it's a contract issue. That said, he could've come out and said he didn't talk to that Brazilian website.
Now we'll see if the Glazers really have balls...........
Cristiano Ronaldo stays at Man Utd, says his mother, as Real Madrid approach Glazers
By Victor Vago and Telegraph staff
Last Updated: 3:42pm BST 06/06/2008
Real Madrid are trying everything they can to get Manchester United winger Cristiano Ronaldo to join them, but the player's mother believes that he may be forced to stay at Old Trafford for now.
The Spanish champions have been dealing directly with the Glazer family, United's American owners, behind the backs of manager Sir Alex Ferguson and chief executive David Gill.
Brave face: Ronaldo's club future remains uncertain
Real know that the Glazers are tempted to cash in on the player to reduce their debts, with Real prepared to offer some £70 million for the player's signature. It would also mean getting the player off the club's wage bill rather than going ahead with the new, but as yet unsigned, United contract worth over £140,000 a week.
Real are believed to have already agreed a deal with Ronaldo and his agent Jorge Mendes. Now they just have to convince United to sell, something unthinkable to United fans and staff.
Real vice-president Vicente Boluda has been in direct contact with Malcolm Glazer and his family to discuss a possible deal, a well-placed Real source has revealed.
Ferguson has already sent a coded warning to the Glazers, declaring that he expected them to let the player rot away rather sell him to Real. But, having said he might be prepared to wait another year to get his man, Real Madrid president Ramon Calderon wants to bring the signing of the player forward.
Calderon, who promised to sign Ronaldo when he won the last club's presidential election, is under pressure from the club's members who last month decided to curb his powers as a first step towards trying to remove him from office. "For Madrid it is an honour to know that a player like him thinks that playing at Real Madrid would be good. We are proud to know that he would like to be with us," he said."
There's more but just a rehash of yesterday's stuff.
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Cristiano Ronaldo stays at Man Utd, says his mother, as Real Madrid approach Glazers
By Victor Vago and Telegraph staff
Last Updated: 3:42pm BST 06/06/2008
Real Madrid are trying everything they can to get Manchester United winger Cristiano Ronaldo to join them, but the player's mother believes that he may be forced to stay at Old Trafford for now.
The Spanish champions have been dealing directly with the Glazer family, United's American owners, behind the backs of manager Sir Alex Ferguson and chief executive David Gill.
Brave face: Ronaldo's club future remains uncertain
Real know that the Glazers are tempted to cash in on the player to reduce their debts, with Real prepared to offer some £70 million for the player's signature. It would also mean getting the player off the club's wage bill rather than going ahead with the new, but as yet unsigned, United contract worth over £140,000 a week.
Real are believed to have already agreed a deal with Ronaldo and his agent Jorge Mendes. Now they just have to convince United to sell, something unthinkable to United fans and staff.
Real vice-president Vicente Boluda has been in direct contact with Malcolm Glazer and his family to discuss a possible deal, a well-placed Real source has revealed.
Ferguson has already sent a coded warning to the Glazers, declaring that he expected them to let the player rot away rather sell him to Real. But, having said he might be prepared to wait another year to get his man, Real Madrid president Ramon Calderon wants to bring the signing of the player forward.
Calderon, who promised to sign Ronaldo when he won the last club's presidential election, is under pressure from the club's members who last month decided to curb his powers as a first step towards trying to remove him from office. "For Madrid it is an honour to know that a player like him thinks that playing at Real Madrid would be good. We are proud to know that he would like to be with us," he said."
There's more but just a rehash of yesterday's stuff.
link
I think we could, if he decided to put in less effort then his performances would drop and knowing how stupid Real Madrid are they could quite easily just go for the next superstar on the horizon or Kaka, he needs to perform well or things could take a turn for the worst for him. He's smart enough to realise that.
That doesn't change my opinion
Now we'll see if the Glazers really have balls...........
Cristiano Ronaldo stays at Man Utd, says his mother, as Real Madrid approach Glazers
By Victor Vago and Telegraph staff
Last Updated: 3:42pm BST 06/06/2008
Real Madrid are trying everything they can to get Manchester United winger Cristiano Ronaldo to join them, but the player's mother believes that he may be forced to stay at Old Trafford for now.
The Spanish champions have been dealing directly with the Glazer family, United's American owners, behind the backs of manager Sir Alex Ferguson and chief executive David Gill.
Brave face: Ronaldo's club future remains uncertain
Real know that the Glazers are tempted to cash in on the player to reduce their debts, with Real prepared to offer some £70 million for the player's signature. It would also mean getting the player off the club's wage bill rather than going ahead with the new, but as yet unsigned, United contract worth over £140,000 a week.
Real are believed to have already agreed a deal with Ronaldo and his agent Jorge Mendes. Now they just have to convince United to sell, something unthinkable to United fans and staff.
Real vice-president Vicente Boluda has been in direct contact with Malcolm Glazer and his family to discuss a possible deal, a well-placed Real source has revealed.
Ferguson has already sent a coded warning to the Glazers, declaring that he expected them to let the player rot away rather sell him to Real. But, having said he might be prepared to wait another year to get his man, Real Madrid president Ramon Calderon wants to bring the signing of the player forward.
Calderon, who promised to sign Ronaldo when he won the last club's presidential election, is under pressure from the club's members who last month decided to curb his powers as a first step towards trying to remove him from office. "For Madrid it is an honour to know that a player like him thinks that playing at Real Madrid would be good. We are proud to know that he would like to be with us," he said."
There's more but just a rehash of yesterday's stuff.
link
It is certainly fine tactics on their part to try and convince the Glazers separatly, hmm.
Now we'll see if the Glazers really have balls...........
Cristiano Ronaldo stays at Man Utd, says his mother, as Real Madrid approach Glazers
By Victor Vago and Telegraph staff
Last Updated: 3:42pm BST 06/06/2008
Real Madrid are trying everything they can to get Manchester United winger Cristiano Ronaldo to join them, but the player's mother believes that he may be forced to stay at Old Trafford for now.
The Spanish champions have been dealing directly with the Glazer family, United's American owners, behind the backs of manager Sir Alex Ferguson and chief executive David Gill.
Brave face: Ronaldo's club future remains uncertain
Real know that the Glazers are tempted to cash in on the player to reduce their debts, with Real prepared to offer some £70 million for the player's signature. It would also mean getting the player off the club's wage bill rather than going ahead with the new, but as yet unsigned, United contract worth over £140,000 a week.
Real are believed to have already agreed a deal with Ronaldo and his agent Jorge Mendes. Now they just have to convince United to sell, something unthinkable to United fans and staff.
Real vice-president Vicente Boluda has been in direct contact with Malcolm Glazer and his family to discuss a possible deal, a well-placed Real source has revealed.
Ferguson has already sent a coded warning to the Glazers, declaring that he expected them to let the player rot away rather sell him to Real. But, having said he might be prepared to wait another year to get his man, Real Madrid president Ramon Calderon wants to bring the signing of the player forward.
Calderon, who promised to sign Ronaldo when he won the last club's presidential election, is under pressure from the club's members who last month decided to curb his powers as a first step towards trying to remove him from office. "For Madrid it is an honour to know that a player like him thinks that playing at Real Madrid would be good. We are proud to know that he would like to be with us," he said."
There's more but just a rehash of yesterday's stuff.
link
Isn't this THE tapping up? I say sell him for 100 million pounds and get them out of Europe.
Might do, if he stays another season. Unlikely though.
Wouldn't expect it to, you've kept your opinion exactly the same the whole way through this thread.
I was thinking about things a bit more, and I would actually rather that Ronaldo left now than leave when SAF leaves, because that leaves a big job on the next managers hands; taking the biggest job in football and replacing the best player in football in one swift move. I know we'll have plans on who will replace him but I would rather SAF had already gotten his man and made sure he could adapt here, because there aren't many better at grooming new talent.
That said, I am still of the belief that he won't move, purely because of SAF's confidence in him staying.
I'd sell him for a £100m.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Blah, blah, blah.
Look at some examples of what he actually definitely said:
1 'I (want to) stay.' (Repeatedly.)
2 'I have dreamt of playing for Madrid.'
3 'No one knows the future' - (eg. even though I might want to stay, Utd might want to sell me.)
4 'I hope to be able to say something about my future in 2 weeks / 2-3 days'.
Those are the actual recorded quotes - you've just been reading the media spin on those as if that was what he said or intended.
Some examples:
You ignore 1 - or assume that it is contradicted by 2 because you interpret that as 'I want to play for RM now'.
2 - see above.
3 - you read this as him saying he is undecided or keeping his options open - yet when Ronaldo insists only God knows the future he is not saying anything like your interpretation.
4 - you think this means he is saying there is a decision pending over whether he is moving or not (as opposed to the details of a possible new contract etc.)
If we assume that Ronaldo may well 'want to stay' but doesn't want to feel that he is being taken advantage of then he would say 'I want to stay' but will delay confirming this will take place until contract negotiations result in him being satisfied Utd recognise his worth.
All Christiano's remarks are consistent with the latter. His frequent and repeated remarks about him staying are not consistent with him wanting to move.
So, he is leaving then?
"BahamaRed" Style.
"BahamaRed" Style.
i dont see why everybody is so pissed off and calling for ronaldos head, calling him a cnut of the highest order etc...he had a legendary season for us, and hopefully he plays as well next season.
he said a few weeks back he was staying, what more do you want him to say? that he is devoting the rest of his career to united?!everybody knows that he will be playing in spain at some stage of his career, and who would blame him? hes not from manchester or england - if he stays for another year or two and helps us win another euro cup, then fecks off to real to finish his days as a footballer,so be it....
i'd be pretty sure that every tabloid paper has increased its sales by about 50% this week because of the bullshit stories they have been running, 99% of them with no fact, or quotes - just speculation to sell papers.
relax - he's a league and european cup double winner, playing in one of the youngest and most exciting teams we have ever seen; at the best and biggest football club in the world......why would he leave?
42 goals? viva ronaldo.
he said a few weeks back he was staying, what more do you want him to say? that he is devoting the rest of his career to united?!everybody knows that he will be playing in spain at some stage of his career, and who would blame him? hes not from manchester or england - if he stays for another year or two and helps us win another euro cup, then fecks off to real to finish his days as a footballer,so be it....
i'd be pretty sure that every tabloid paper has increased its sales by about 50% this week because of the bullshit stories they have been running, 99% of them with no fact, or quotes - just speculation to sell papers.
relax - he's a league and european cup double winner, playing in one of the youngest and most exciting teams we have ever seen; at the best and biggest football club in the world......why would he leave?
42 goals? viva ronaldo.
Yep. It is a way of life for many of us, even those of us who are (like myself) too disabled to try to play the game at home, or who (like Wibble) are so old and decrepit that they can no longer play with their balls, much less a football.
Pretty much death, very close family and children are the only things more important than football.
This isn't just true about supporters, who live and breathe and worship their specific clubs. We sacrifice (matchgoers MUCH more so than the rest of us) untold energy and money and time supporting our club no matter what and finding out every scrap of news, watching every piece of interviews, and watching and rewatching classic and current games over and over.
This is also true about players, who live and breathe and worship the sport. They sacrifice their personal lives and their bodies to it, in the knowledge that one day it will all come to an end and their lives will never feel complete again as their bodies ache and hurt more than the rest of people their age. Playing for a specific club may be a "job", but playing the actual sport is their whole lives.
Same here. I'd accept less than £100m plus Ramos in fact.
Breaking news(KEY 103)
Barca have made a bid according to Mike Toolan.
Barca have made a bid according to Mike Toolan.
Hehe.
Had me in stitches when CQ spouted his mad rant about the Iberian border dispute, when he had jumped ship in a split second when Real came in with an offer for him.
I was asleep, missed around 5 pages, so what's new?
Sexy French newsreader Melissa Theuriau has added her voice to those calling for Ronaldo to commit his future to Manchester United.
"Ronaldo makes me moist. I want to see him win things and, let's face it, that is more likely in Manchester than in Madrid," Theuriau said.
"Sometimes when I watch Man United I touch myself. My boyfriend supports PSG but what does he know? At least he doesnt support Madrid - surely Europe's most contemptible, self-important bunch of pricks."
Theuriau also refused to rule out a move to the North West to read the local news for Granada. "My English is quite good, and it has always been a dream of mine to live in the North of England," she said.
"Ronaldo makes me moist. I want to see him win things and, let's face it, that is more likely in Manchester than in Madrid," Theuriau said.
"Sometimes when I watch Man United I touch myself. My boyfriend supports PSG but what does he know? At least he doesnt support Madrid - surely Europe's most contemptible, self-important bunch of pricks."
Theuriau also refused to rule out a move to the North West to read the local news for Granada. "My English is quite good, and it has always been a dream of mine to live in the North of England," she said.
I'd actually use some of that cash to extend the South Stand.
So he's staying then? Great.
It HAS gone on every summer. Every time with "definitive" quotes he wants out.
In 2006 the British media were wildly exaggerating and lying about what Portuguese papers and Portuguese language interviews were saying.
The only real quotes from him that summer were to the effect that "it will be tough to play in England, but Manchester United is my team". This was conveniently mistranslated to "it will be impossible to stay in England next year". Julissa reads Portuguese and Spanish very fluently and no matter how many times I told the Caf what the papers actually said, and what was clearly fabricated, I was ignored as it was CERTAIN that he would depart, the dirty cheating Portuguese winker bastard twat cnut.
All was forgiven (in spite of there not actually being anything to "forgive") and apparently the whole thing was forgotten by Caftards, the second he started playing again. Even the opposition fans who promised to boo his every step(over) were soon awed by his skill.
Sorry, old news. Was actually Barca bid for PSV's teenage sensation, Ronaldo.
I'm sure he knows a lot more than we do, and that he is a big boy and has done it all before.
The rest just comes from having a chance to not have to be at training first thing in the morning and the mental strain of preparing for each opponent and psyching up the players.
He said after the final that they would take a break, but that Tuesday they would be right back at it preparing to defend THE Big Double.
Ha....you got the play.
Sexy French newsreader Melissa Theuriau has added her voice to those calling for Ronaldo to commit his future to Manchester United.
"Ronaldo makes me moist. I want to see him win things and, let's face it, that is more likely in Manchester than in Madrid," Theuriau said.
"Sometimes when I watch Man United I touch myself. My boyfriend supports PSG but what does he know? At least he doesnt support Madrid - surely Europe's most contemptible, self-important bunch of pricks."
Theuriau also refused to rule out a move to the North West to read the local news for Granada. "My English is quite good, and it has always been a dream of mine to live in the North of England," she said.
Are we allowed to suggest 'Sell Giggs, Sign Theuriau'?Sexy French newsreader Melissa Theuriau has added her voice to those calling for Ronaldo to commit his future to Manchester United.
"Ronaldo makes me moist. I want to see him win things and, let's face it, that is more likely in Manchester than in Madrid," Theuriau said.
"Sometimes when I watch Man United I touch myself. My boyfriend supports PSG but what does he know? At least he doesnt support Madrid - surely Europe's most contemptible, self-important bunch of pricks."
Theuriau also refused to rule out a move to the North West to read the local news for Granada. "My English is quite good, and it has always been a dream of mine to live in the North of England," she said.
But we've put a bid in for Alan Clegheaton.
feck, that looks reliable too, proper quotes, interviews with all involved parties, I really thought he was going to stay
Maybe it's time to update the meter again
Proper quotes in Portuguese. Written by a journalist based IN MADRID.
This site now is getting tons of hits worldwide, resulting in massively boosted advertising revenue. It also gets its name out there everywhere - which is especially important in Portugal where it just may have turned itself into a port of call of Portuguese fans and those interested in South America.
In one single bit of fabricated nonsense by a journo IN MADRID, they have made themselves an international name. So-called "respected" papers in South America are nothing at all like "respected" papers in the UK. Even in Spain this is the case, as El AS is generally not known for playing games but lied their heads off about Ronaldo in 2006. It also redounds to the benefit of UK papers during a very slow summer because of the Euros to pump up Terra as the definitive source in order to sell more papers themselves as they sow doubt.
How a journo in MADRID is suddenly given more credibility than if one of their locals in Brazil had made it up is beyond me.
Last I checked MADRID was not SWITZERLAND where Portugal's training camp is, nor is it AUSTRIA or SWEDEN where the Euros will take place, nor is it MANCHESTER, the home of those who are serious insiders in the club.
It is however the home of Los Maricónes.
Good point.
Sexy French newsreader Melissa Theuriau has added her voice to those calling for Ronaldo to commit his future to Manchester United.
"Ronaldo makes me moist. I want to see him win things and, let's face it, that is more likely in Manchester than in Madrid," Theuriau said.
"Sometimes when I watch Man United I touch myself. My boyfriend supports PSG but what does he know? At least he doesnt support Madrid - surely Europe's most contemptible, self-important bunch of pricks."
Theuriau also refused to rule out a move to the North West to read the local news for Granada. "My English is quite good, and it has always been a dream of mine to live in the North of England," she said.
It has always been a dream of mine to pound Melissa Theuriau until we both pass out.
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