Maybe so. I wouldn't put my mortgage on it or anything though.
Alexis Sanchez | Udinese: No Deal Yet
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Maybe so. I wouldn't put my mortgage on it or anything though.
Ok, I have to ask, what would you put your mortgage on?
Nobody. Put it this way, United wouldn't have been one of my first guesses. I'd like to think we would make a bid though.
I just don't depending how we would fit sanchez into our side normally. Would be great for 433, but we don't play that formation often. 451 is used a good bit, but still... I dont think he could play effectively in a 442 and that is the formation we would play more often than not. Without a squad restructuring, I don't see us signing a player like sanchez.
He can play in plenty of positions though.
A fair point and a contributing factor for sure, as is the fact that he attempts more dribbles than anyone bar Messi, but I don't think either is enough to explain how his rate is so much higher than anyone else's. Compare him to Pastore and Reyes who are in somewhat similar situations, while their rates are on the high end of the range they still aren't anywhere near Sanchez's.
His lower goal scoring chance creation numbers are also somewhat explained by his weaker team mates, but if you again compare him to Pastore and Reyes he still falls short of those two.
Yes but Sanchez will see the ball a lot more in a single match than the pair of them. He is quite literally the focal point of all of Udineses attacks. Pastore will spend a lot less time on the ball than Sanchez and release the pass. Sanchez will pick the ball up from defence and take it from his own half upto the opposition penalty area all night long.
This will be another Balotelli. An italian club is selling, City are interested, and somehow our name gets in the middle when, shock and horror, we're not signing him.
Only difference is, unlike Balotelli, this is a signing I'd approve.
Only difference is, unlike Balotelli, this is a signing I'd approve.
What exactly do you mean here?
This support an opinion I've felt for a long time. While Alexis Sanchez is a big talent, its first and foremost his potential that exciting. He has a fantastic burst of pace, seems to have good body-strength and gravity. He seems like a pro and a stand up guy, too.
But he is not as naturally gifted as for instance, Eden Hazard. While a player like Hazard creates time and space for himself (like Scholes, like Giggs, like Rooney etc.), Sanchez sometimes tend to do the opposite. He makes some situations very difficult for himself. If we get him, I am sure we could develop him into becoming a fantastic footballer, but I doubt he would become be the instant revelation some seem to imagine. And to be honest, I think Hazard would.
What do you mean by turnover? Whats the difference in turnover and dispossed?
I agree. As I said in the past, Sanchez best games with Udinese came as a striker. Ok he can cover the winger's role (expecially the right flank) but he's more of a striker (link man role). So, unless we're selling Berba....
Most likely that someone is using us to strengthen their position. An agent, the selling club.
Yes please.
Surely City and Rent boys will be all over him.
I actually think we'd win a battle with them to sign him but that's only if we are willing to pay decent figures... which is probably not the case!
Surely City and Rent boys will be all over him.
I actually think we'd win a battle with them to sign him but that's only if we are willing to pay decent figures... which is probably not the case!
City now 1/4 on to sign him.
In other betting news, Arsenal are 12/1 to win the league next season....for those of you that don't understand betting, that means if you put £10 on....you will lose £10
In other betting news, Arsenal are 12/1 to win the league next season....for those of you that don't understand betting, that means if you put £10 on....you will lose £10
Haha, I'm stealing that Arsenal joke!
Apparently reports are saying that a £30.4mil bid has been rejected by Udinese for him by a unnamed Citeh? team! I think at that price you can rule us out 
Not a chance at £30m, he won't even be our priority, although I'm a bit disappointed that we didn't move for him last year or two years ago when we were rumored to be interested. Hopefully he doesn't develop too much at City because he can really reach the highest level.
All along an attacking midfield 3 though.
On the wings it would mean a change to 433, though the centre it would mean playing Rooney up front and Sanchez off him - which is the most workable imo.
I wouldn't be too fussed if we didn't get him because he plays in an area we don't need to strengthen that much.
But please, not Shitty.
But please, not Shitty.
If he is "quite literally the focal point of all of Udinese's attacks" then his shot and goal scoring chance creation numbers look even weaker then they already do. Of course shots and key passes are not everything when it comes to creating offense, but they are the most immediate and valuable aspects. I'm not making a definitive statement either way because I haven't watched him enough (including the World Cup probably 10-12 times this season, I can't be bothered checking my log for the exact number), but I don't think we can just wave away these stats as being meaningless.
I don't know exactly what constitutes a turnover. I assume it means situations like dribbling the ball out of bounds or messing up your control and giving the ball away, things like that, but I'm not sure. You would have to ask the guys at Opta to find out how exactly the classify different situations since that's where WhoScored.com get their data from.
He can play in a midfield 2, 3, 6, 7 etc hate all this players can only play in such asuch a formation. He would have to adapt to us.
is this going to be another one of those threads where every jerks off over a player... And then he signs for City and is suddenly everyone says he's 'shit'
He would have a shit mentality to choose City over us..
Money-grabbing over history & continued success, has been a scourge on the game, hopefully he'll make the right decision for football reasons!
A touch sanctimonious there. It's hardly a scourge. Not everyone has that choice and if they did I wonder how many in these times would go for the money? I'd bet the vast majority of footballers if they couldn't play for the team they supported would go for financial reasons
He won't even have a choice of going to United in all likelihood, how could he choose anything then? If City really put a bid like that on the table, then it's either going to City or staying at Udinese, I'd say it's a smart choice for him to move to City because they're more likely to win trophies (as much as it pains me to say this) than Udinese are.
Not necessarily. In this case it's actually a stat for total time of individual possession that would best show what exactly is going on. Just because he has the ball longer doesn't mean he's taking more shots, making more passes, that his teammates are making good runs, etc. And it would also explain his DP stat.
It has to do with who initiates the action that results in the change of possession. Dispossession is just that: getting dispossessed.
Conversely, TOs is you initiating a pass that either gets intercepted or goes out of bounds, you dribbling out of bounds (even if you're under heavy pressure), etc.
In that table above, you can make a pretty educated guess as to how they're making their distinction by the way some of those players' TOs are lower than their DPs, which indicates they're not adding something to TOs to get DPs.
Yes, very much so.
It doesn't matter if you hate it or not, it is simply a fact of football that players are only going to be at their best in certain roles.
Silva is one that i didn't mind see going to City, but not Sanchez who i reckon is going to be a world beater. May well mature into one of the best players in the world especially under the guidance of Fergie
It's also a simple fact of football that certain players are able to adjust to roles put upon them. Sanchez has already done this.
It's somewhat of a waste of Sanchez's dribbling, pace, close control and all-energy playing style to have him that deep though, the discipline a centre mid needs isn't something that would benefit his game I don't think (nor has he shown any awareness for how to position himself defensively).
Sanchez v Milan last night.
reports in the Chilean press say he´s on his way to Juventus for 35 million euros
As long as it's not City, I don't care tbh. I would have loved to sign him here, but it's clear that we aren't too interested in him.
Did Fergie tell you this??
reports in the Chilean press say he´s on his way to Juventus for 35 million euros
Strange move, especially considering that Udinese finished above Juventus in Serie A and will get European football, whereas Juventus will not.
Just what I think mate, will love to be proven wrong.
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