So Inter and City now in the lead to sign this lad? It would really suck if City got him.
Alexis Sanchez | Udinese: No Deal Yet
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De Rossi would add a bit more grit and determination to the midfield but whether that translates to wins we wouldn't know until he actually played in the shirt, which probably won't happen.
Hmm. That's odd. Saw Paddy Crerand the other day on his show saying that he talked to the players and they said that what they need the most is a Hargreaves type player since he's unfit. De Rossi is better than Hargreaves at what he does.
So judging by that either the players themselves are wrong or Paddy Crerand was lying. Or simply that you are wrong in saying that De Rossi wouldn't improve our team
They are all attacking players. Of course they would improve a team. But De Rossi is a defensive midfielder. He improves the team defensively while the three mentioned before improves a team offensively. I feel we need both right now.
De Rossi would bring the best out of Anderson.
A lack of injuries would do that even more.
Hmm. That's odd. Saw Paddy Crerand the other day on his show saying that he talked to the players and they said that what they need the most is a Hargreaves type player since he's unfit. De Rossi is better than Hargreaves at what he does.
So judging by that either the players themselves are wrong or Paddy Crerand was lying. Or simply that you are wrong in saying that De Rossi wouldn't improve our team
Or you are wrong for comparing a fully fit Hargreaves who was consistantly strong and dismantled some of the best teams across Europe and on his day made Zidane look bad to DeRossi who has done nothing of the sort.
Dunno, DeRossi if he staid purely defensive could be a good buy, but he doesn't, he tends to try and be all things and in doing so has left his midfield weakened on more than a few occasions.
Or you are wrong for comparing a fully fit Hargreaves who was consistantly strong and dismantled some of the best teams across Europe and on his day made Zidane look bad to DeRossi who has done nothing of the sort.
Some people on this forum really look back at Hargreaves with delusions, he was only ever a good player for us (or Bayern/England), with the occasional very good game, nothing more nothing less.
Hargreaves played very well for United - he anchored the three man midfield well and I don't think it coincidence that Carrick looked a good player with him in the side.
He did the simple things well, had a lot of energy and frankly did exactly what you'd expect. The CL winning season he was excellent and has been a big miss.
He was immense for Bayern and watching him destroy the Real Madrid Galacticos was one of his best moments, he just never got the recognition he deserved in England until he became Englands best player at the world cup and even then he was still derided. Some people look at DeRossi with even greater dellusions. They've seen him play the odd ok game but missed out on how dross he can be and seem to ignore the fact that our Fletcher completly neutered him, yet talk about how he DeRossi would walk into our midfield. People seem to be better at undervaluing the players we alread have. If it wasn't for his injuries Hargreaves would have been the lynchpin of our midfield. For the amount the likes of DeRossi would cost there are better options available.
Apparently Inter are offering cash plus Coutinho in the deal.
There is now way that is true, Coutinho is the real deal.
I'd look into it just in case if I was Fergie though then tell Inter we'd step away from the Sanchez 'chase' (that we're not in, at all) if they sell us Coutinho.
Obviously this scenario is entirely fictional and not going to happen because Inter wouldn't be stupid enough to let him leave.
Of course it's fictional, I'm just reporting the bollocks.
I'd be quite happy if he did somehow sign for us, but wouldn't be too fussed if, which is most likely, he ends up somewhere else.
The money he'd cost us would mean less chance of a quality replacement in other more problematic positions.
The money he'd cost us would mean less chance of a quality replacement in other more problematic positions.
Sorry fella, you are talking complete bollocks
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I think he is Inter-bound. Inter have been following him for years, and have had made several offers last summer and last January. Udinese want crazy money, and want an auction.
In the end, I reckon that anyone paying more than Moratti would have paid over the odds imo
I'd be really disappointed it we don't sign him.
Luckily Ferguson has shown time after time that he has one
That's the thing though Ozil wanted to go to Madrid, could Madrid outbid City or Chelsea in a straight bidding war, not only that he went to them for what 12 million.
If a player wants to come to United they will I am not skeptical to think that United have lost their draw since the havent won the League in a year or the CL in two years
I'd be very surprised if we're in the running now his value has gone up to around £30m ish (allegedly). I don't think we have that sort of money and I'm pretty certain Fergie wouldn't spend it on a player who would play in positions we're already well covered in.
What, attacking midfielder? To be truthful we have every postion well covered and have no need to spend. We do have the money.
When I've seen him he's either been wide or playing off a striker.
Nah, keeper and midfield are not well covered in relative terms, as in we're a club going for all the major competitions.
Scholes still hasn't signed a new contract and Giggs will be 38 next season. Carrick (an enigma who still divide the opinion of alot of people), Fletcher (question marks around him and his form) and the still unreliable Anderson will have to be the main core of our midfield. We're definitely lacking a player there, a top class one. That player is not Cleverly, not yet. Mentioning him would just be throwing another body in midfield for argument's sake.
The goalkeeping situation speaks for itself after van der Sar leaves at the end of the season.
EDIT: eh sanchez is an attacking midfielder??? not seen him play like that.
Any suggestion of Sanchez being a Sneidjer replacement that Inter may try to do?
He can play anywhere across the midfield. He's been allowed more freedom to roam in recent months. He's had a more central role recently. So a player who can play in the midfield, on the wing, or supporting the striker would be pretty useful I guess. Not that we'll get him, but we could afford him and give him a role. I still believe a more central midfielder is needed and Sanchez does have a penchant for being on the right which I do agree, we have covered in both Nani and Valencia.
When has he played in midfield gambit?
He's shown huge capabilities in his passing game over the last few months for club and country, to the extent that it's almost becoming more prominent than his dribbling (which makes the Ronaldo comparisons even more off-base), but I've not yet seen him play there.
He's shown huge capabilities in his passing game over the last few months for club and country, to the extent that it's almost becoming more prominent than his dribbling (which makes the Ronaldo comparisons even more off-base), but I've not yet seen him play there.
Ronaldo comparison (do you just mean in general)? To me he's been more of a Nasri style role recently for club and Country, supporting the striker, drifting to the wing and dropping in deep. I do bow to other peoples perceptions of him as I've only really been paying proper attention to him over the last few months.
At Udinese?
At Udinese he's clearly in the hole or supporting striker depending how deep he is in each individual game, same with Rooney in fact. No idea what he's up to with Chile at the moment.
At Udinese he's clearly in the hole or supporting striker depending how deep he is in each individual game, same with Rooney in fact. No idea what he's up to with Chile at the moment.
He aint coming here!
More than likely not, we can still chat about him though.
What makes you think that?
Heard that too - however, 50% of Coutinho, so Inter can buy him back if needed
He was excellent down the right. Never in the middle. Most times when he played in the middle, it was in a 442 and he was not good except for his defending. Even Scholes struggled playing next to him.
Vs Citeh ?
I don't think Hargreaves was that bad in the centre of the park in a 4-4-2, he never had a consistent run in it...
But I do remember his Bayern days where he practically destroyed teams, he was also Englands best player at times...
His set pieces for Bayern were awesome... He and Lucio had a great time taking them imo.
( If I recall correctly, there was this game where Lucio had 2 stunning freekicks in the same game... I was like whoahhhh amazing ! )
A combination of that and De Rossi would do it the most
De Rossi is Hargreaves, with superior on the ball skills. Anderson was consistently good alongside Hargreaves.
I say it will be a match made in heaven
Some people here also have no idea how good a fully fit Hargreaves actually is. So they prefer to say he is a crap player.
There's now way they will exchange Sneijder's long term replacement to get in De Rossi. Morrati has never been that dumb.
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