Alexis Sanchez | Udinese: No Deal Yet

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It would make no sense if we signed Sanchez.

I still believe Nani is better on the right, and Valencia is a superb player.

Many people said the same when we signed Evra.
What's the point? We have Heinze, O'Shea and Sylvestre.
Sometimes you just shouldn't miss out on a talent.
 
This is transfer muppetry cw1984.

Use our brains. We must think, we know we have two fantastic and young right wingers.

Nah. The way I see it there would be 3 very good players (Sanchez, Nani and Valencia) challenging for 2 spots on a regular basis with players like Park, Cleverley and Giggs who can play there aswell but can be used in other areas also.
 
How do we know he's more attainable than others? City are rumoured to be bidding for him like pretty much all the rest

If we sign him, great. Same with Pastore and the rest. But we do need an idea of where he's going to fit in the same as with the rest of them.

If for example, Sir Alex is dead set on Valencia and Nani on the wings, then signing Sanchez to play up front could mean Hernandez doesnt get his chances anymore. Or Berbatov on the bench fulltime. And so on.

No, we arent going to sign players that will cost so much without a plan for them to improve the first team. And make sensible use of what we already have in the squad.

I'm not talking about financials, Fergie and Gill say we can compete for any player, I'll leave that alone for now. By obtainable I'm talking about the fact his club president says they will sell him in the summer and he says he's ready to move to a big club, unlike players such as Bale, Modric and Gotze who are at clubs that say they have no intention of selling.

Sanchez can play in any of the forward roles, so we'd know he can compete for a starting spot with Valencia, Nani and Berbatov, there's no need for anything more than that.
 
Hernandez has much time remaining in his career and Rooney isn't always fit. Find some good midfielders that can retrieve possession and get the ball to Sanchez and let him work his magic to the wingers or center forward... migth could work.

Berbatov would be a luxury player with better width and midfielders on board. Might even be best to offload while the price would be higher after a good season. There's also Macheda and Welbeck, along with King coming up.
 
--------------Hernandez
Sanchez - Rooney or Berbatov - Nani

For me

Its asking Sanchez to play in a role he doesnt usually, but I believe I've read he has played there for River Plate in a post here. Not sure thats true? Even if he hasnt played there, neither had Nani before United. So it could happen. The question is, wiould he adapt to playing there faster than Nani

While that looks great to me it means a £30 million striker sitting on the bench and if Valencia gets back to his best after his injury, I doubt he'll stick around long term as a backup. This is why we need to think carefully before we buy certain players. But there's no doubt he's a fantastic footballer
 
--------------Hernandez
Sanchez - Rooney or Berbatov - Nani

For me

Its asking Sanchez to play in a role he doesnt usually, but I believe I've read he has played there for River Plate in a post here. Not sure thats true? Even if he hasnt played there, neither had Nani before United. So it could happen. The question is, wiould he adapt to playing there faster than Nani

While that looks great to me it means a £30 million striker sitting on the bench and if Valencia gets back to his best after his injury, I doubt he'll stick around long term as a backup. This is why we need to think carefully before we buy certain players. But there's no doubt he's a fantastic footballer

I honestly think Valencia is here for the long haul, he doesn't strike me as the type to want to run off to Spain or Italy because he's not in the starting 11 every weekend.

One of the things that I think has led to the regression of Carrick and Fletcher this season is no competition for their places, and I think competition for places in every position is good for a team.
 
I honestly think Valencia is here for the long haul, he doesn't strike me as the type to want to run off to Spain or Italy because he's not in the starting 11 every weekend.

We obviously dont know how long it'll take for him to get back to his best. Similar injuries have often taken a year or so to completely shrug off the rust. But if he does get back to his best, he's too good to spend more than a season or so warming the bench while 2 other wingers are prefered. There are few clubs that have better wingers than him, its just unlucky that we have Nani who is and plays better on the right. Signing another superb talent like Sanchez to play on the other wing, would create a bit of a wall for him

One of the things that I think has led to the regression of Carrick and Fletcher this season is no competition for their places, and I think competition for places in every position is good for a team.

Yes but players like Park are better competition for a place than someone like Gibson. Valencia is a lot further up the tree than Park. Realistically, if Park wanted to leave where would he go? Which top teams would take him with open arms and insert him straight into the first 11? Its different with Valencia. He's good enough to start each week.
 
We obviously dont know how long it'll take for him to get back to his best. Similar injuries have often taken a year or so to completely shrug off the rust. But if he does get back to his best, he's too good to spend more than a season or so warming the bench while 2 other wingers are prefered. There are few clubs that have better wingers than him, its just unlucky that we have Nani who is and plays better on the right. Signing another superb talent like Sanchez to play on the other wing, would create a bit of a wall for him

The thing is that is assuming that everyone else stays fit around the clock, in the modern game I think there is more than enough games to go around to accommodate three class players fighting over 2 positions, especially when one of them can also play centrally off the striker, I mean in essence all this talk of Ashley Young coming opens up the exact same issues, he wont come to sit on the bench either, and he can play off the striker if required. So unless there's absolutely no truth in Fergie being interested in either we have to assume he's interested in building that competition.

Yes but players like Park are better competition for a place than someone like Gibson. Valencia is a lot further up the tree than Park. Realistically, if Park wanted to leave where would he go? Which top teams would take him with open arms and insert him straight into the first 11? Its different with Valencia. He's good enough to start each week.

When a player has nowhere to go but down are they really considered competition for the starting role though? to me competition is when you have two players of a similar caliber competing for a spot, anything else is a contented squad player.
 
Thats where form comes in. Park kept Nani out of the team, despite Nani being twice as talented.

If Gibson is in form and Fletcher isnt in form, who plays? Out of form Fletcher.
 
It can also be tactical, but it doesn't alter the fact that at this point Park won't keep Nani out even if Nani is struggling, same as Berba rarely ever keeps Rooney out even when he is in the better form of the two. Someone like Sanchez though would mean all bets are off.
 
I wont be surprised if we end up getting no one in midfield


The only reason he wouldn't buy anyone is because he has absolutely no money to spend. There is absolutely no way Ferguson will fail to buy a midfielder considering the likes of Crawley outplayed us in midfield. It is inconceivable that he does not buy someone.
 
The only reason he wouldn't buy anyone is because he has absolutely no money to spend. There is absolutely no way Ferguson will fail to buy a midfielder considering the likes of Crawley outplayed us in midfield. It is inconceivable that he does not buy someone.

I agree. On the other hand rest assured that he wont say that. He'll say that there's no value and that his players are as good as what there is available.
 
----------Striker----------
Nani--Sanchez--Valencia
-------CM------CM---------

with the three of them interchanging. Nani plays on both sides equally as good, Valencia has played in the middle for Ecuador and Sanchez played through the middle for Udineze on a few occasions and did well if I'm not mistaken.

Would this not work?

EDIT: Ok I see MrMarcelo already suggested this.
 
Muppetry is fine, but lets get to our priorities.

1.Experienced and capable midfielder in place of Scholes. Modric? Hazard?
2.Leftie in place of Giggs. Bale?
3. And yes, a GK. Neuer?

Sanchez will add value to the squad, no doubt. But is he a priority?
 
Muppetry is fine, but lets get to our priorities.

1.Experienced and capable midfielder in place of Scholes. Modric? Hazard?
2.Leftie in place of Giggs. Bale?
3. And yes, a GK. Neuer?

Sanchez will add value to the squad, no doubt. But is he a priority?

Why is hazard better suited than sanchez? Sanchez has the more experience in respects of playing in different leagues & international matches, especially WC etc!
 
Muppetry is fine, but lets get to our priorities.

1.Experienced and capable midfielder in place of Scholes. Modric? Hazard?


Sanchez will add value to the squad, no doubt. But is he a priority?

Far more of a priority than Hazard.
 
Why is hazard better suited than sanchez? Sanchez has the more experience in respects of playing in different leagues & international matches, especially WC etc!

Hazard can play through the middle. While Sanchez can also play through the middle, it is not his natural position. He is better suited on the wings. If we get Hazard, he can play in the hole behind the striker and he can also play on the left wing. So we kill two birds with one stone.
 
Sanchez would settle in far quicker than Hazard. He's stronger, he's played at a higher level and he isn't as raw.

EDIT: And no, Sanchez shouldn't really be a priority, a GK, then a midfielder and then possibly a left footed winger should be, but feck it I don't care, release the muppet because this kid is special. I think he's the best young talent in world football.
 
Sanchez would settle in far quicker than Hazard. He's stronger, he's played at a higher level and he isn't as raw.

EDIT: And no, Sanchez shouldn't really be a priority, a GK, then a midfielder and then possibly a left footed winger should be, but feck it I don't care, release the muppet because this kid is special. I think he's the best young talent in world football.

I like Sanchez better as a traditional winger than Hazard, because of his physique. But in my opinion, Hazard is the better footballer. He could have a Zidane type of role in a team.

Hazard has a special ability to always find (and/or create) time and space when he is on the ball. He seems like a very smart player. With regard to this, he reminds of players like Paul Scholes, Xavi, Fabregas and Iniesta. Sanchez do not have this aspect of the game, but he is a more traditional (but modern) winger and would probably accommodate easier.

Sanchez reminds me a bit of Nani. He has a fantastic technique, and an extreme physique, but he makes a lot of bad choices and sometimes creates difficult situations for himself. Luka Modric played a lot on the left when he was in Dinamo Zagreb. I can see Hazard developing into a central midfielder - at least in 433.
 
Havent been up on this thread. Have we actually made any moves for him, will we sign him?

I think there is more chance of seeing a king panda's hard on, than there is of United signing this chap. If we were to buy a left sided player then it I would imagine that would be Young as he is British, plays in the EPL and most certainly be cheaper. Young is a good player and I'd be happy with him.
 
I'll admit I've only seen him on you tube but my god he's got quick feet, thought it was in double time. Wish we could be more ambitious in trying to sign players like Sanchez and aguerro ect. Rodwell and young don't exactly excite, muppetry mabey but feck it.
 
I think there is more chance of seeing a king panda's hard on, than there is of United signing this chap. If we were to buy a left sided player then it I would imagine that would be Young as he is British, plays in the EPL and most certainly be cheaper. Young is a good player and I'd be happy with him.
There's definitely a conflict in there somewhere.
 
To be fair, the defender was running at full pace and with his lack of balance, he just fell and I've seen Vidic fall to pace quite a few times so I wouldn't call it shambolic defending, you've got to give credit to Sanchez too for controlling that ball with that speed... Not to mention doing a step over too.
 
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