Alexis Sanchez | Udinese: No Deal Yet

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ehsanul said:
19:41 - Sanchez-Upgrade story: second AsAlexis Sanchez has canceled his trip to Barcelona by the withdrawal of Chile, where he is preparing for the Copa America. A new signal, after the rejection of Jeffren Udinese and rising Well the price ("Sanchez is worth 50 million), that the negotiations were abruptly terminated after accelerated in recent days.
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What the source on that? Any link?
 
MiamiSpartan said:
It's often about money, and I'd rather lose out on those players than become another Chelsea or City, even if we were able to spend like them.

But even if you disregard the monetary aspect, it has always been extremely difficult to get a Latin American player to come to United over Real or Barca. And pretty difficult to get them to come to United over an Italian team. It's not only language and culture, but when these players were young and impressionable, the Italian and Spanish leagues were the best in Europe, coupled with the fact that those were pretty much the only European leagues shown on TV in Latin America.

Maybe that's changing with England becoming one of the best, if not the best leagues, and with greater access to more football from around the world. But it's going to take time before we can expect Latin American kids to grow up dreaming to play for United. I know people say that Sanchez said he was a United fan last year, but no way was he running around 10 years ago pretending that he was Ryan Giggs or David Beckham.
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Agreed. Though my good friend in Colombia said the PL and United are very popular now.


We sell more shirts in Mexico than Barca :D (Hernandez :D )
 
KingMinger22 said:
Agreed. Though my good friend in Colombia said the PL and United are very popular now.


We sell more shirts in Mexico than Barca :D (Hernandez :D )
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No doubt having a good lot of Latin American players in the squad can only help raise our profile there, especially players who are so important to both United and their national teams like Hernandez and Valencia. Hopefully Anderson and the twins get there some day with Brazil.
 
Updates please? I am lost in all the speculation, Has Sanchez signed with Barca yet or has something new held it up??
 
Its a shame that Sanchez''s head got turned by Barca, it would have been a far greater challenge for him to come to United. Well there might be a change of heart from him yet if Fergie keeps bugging him while he hasnt signed on the dotted line for Barca..
 
Fair play to udinese for trying to soak every ounce of money.I would rather like to see him playing for city rather than barca purely because the entertainment these types of player will provide in epl.If we can't afford these types of players than it doesn't mean we hope our rivals doesn't buy him..
 
MiamiSpartan said:
No doubt having a good lot of Latin American players in the squad can only help raise our profile there, especially players who are so important to both United and their national teams like Hernandez and Valencia. Hopefully Anderson and the twins get there some day with Brazil.
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We don't need our profile raised anywhere...we are Utd
 
Marcotti Sky Italia reporting that Udinese now pushing Alexis Sanchez to City... better offer: Euro 40m cash + 5m bonuses + better wage for Sanchez

Better deal for Udinese than Barca, since Jeffren turned down move. Ultimately tho, up to Sanchez. Udinese waiting for better Barca offer
 
Blair said:
This is decending into a farce now. I wish he'd just fecking sign for someone.
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It has been farcical for some time now. Like I have said elsewhere, he clearly doesn't want to play for Man Utd, so let's move on.

He will sign for Barca.


We have as much chance of signing Fabregas as we have this guy.
 
In fairness to yer man Sanchez, he's keepin very quiet about all of this & seems to have done all along. Makes a change from the usual overload of quotes we get every Summer from players lookin to get on the move. Sneijder's been this Summers will he or wont he muppet!
 
wr8_utd said:
Marcotti Sky Italia reporting that Udinese now pushing Alexis Sanchez to City... better offer: Euro 40m cash + 5m bonuses + better wage for Sanchez

Better deal for Udinese than Barca, since Jeffren turned down move. Ultimately tho, up to Sanchez. Udinese waiting for better Barca offer
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I bloody well hope Barcelona won't allow him to go to City.
 
Blair said:
This is decending into a farce now. I wish he'd just fecking sign for someone.
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This, it's at the point now where he's quite obviously going to sign for Barca so just wish they'd get it done now
 
Can't believe the desperation from Shitty, i think its fairly obvious he doesn't want to go there!!!
 
Jinn said:
It's between us and Barca. He won't join City.
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We have no bid in place, so how can it be between us & Barca? Barca are in the front of the queue to sign him, this Jeffren thing is causing issues & by the sounds of it Barca can't afford Sanchez without a cash + player deal, if they can't agree a fee who knows where we will stand on this.
 
The only thing that is 'clear' and 'obvious' about this saga is that nobody has a fecking clue what is really going on. The speculation (read: 'bullshit') changes every day to put a different club favourite, it's hugely tiresome. Just wait until a deal is announced, until then nobody knows anything.
 
He hasn't indicated anything against City.. But its pretty much accepted that he would not like to go there and imo would rather stay on Udinese.. Also to those stating that he doesn't want to play at Man United.. I would like to know where you get your info from.. Cause I am fairly certain we would be his 2nd choice if Barca were to somehow not manage to get this deal done..

This would be his preferences imo: Barca, United, Stay in Italy & last option would be to go to Man City
 
Chirag said:
He hasn't indicated anything against City.. But its pretty much accepted that he would not like to go there and imo would rather stay on Udinese.. Also to those stating that he doesn't want to play at Man United.. I would like to know where you get your info from.. Cause I am fairly certain we would be his 2nd choice if Barca were to somehow not manage to get this deal done..

This would be his preferences imo: Barca, United, Stay in Italy & last option would be to go to Man City
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Because he has made it clearly obvious for some time now that he wants to play for Barca.

I haven't read anything to suggest that we would be his second choice, we just like to think that we are.

It could well be that Barca is his desire and that second choice is to get filthy rich avec Shitty.
 
Fergie's Man said:
Because he has made it clearly obvious for some time now that he wants to play for Barca.

I haven't read anything to suggest that we would be his second choice, we just like to think that we are.

It could well be that Barca is his desire and that second choice is to get filthy rich avec Shitty.
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So if one makes it obvious that he wants to go to Barcelona that makes it 'OBVIOUS' that he doesn't want to play for United at all? Lad we have been following this Sanchez fellow since years.. SAF has been quoted as interested in him and even went as far as saying he is a player of the Cristiano Ronaldo levels.. Also Sanchez has in quotes said that he is a fan of Man United.. So I again ask you where did you get your info from where he 'CLEARLY' & 'OBVIOUSLY' doesn't want to play for united.. As of now he prefers Barca over the like of United.. and that's that! And Like you, I too am not optimistic about our chances of getting him! But I still don't go around making up stories of how he has made it 'OBVIOUS' that he doesn't want to play for Manchester United
 
Chirag said:
So if one makes it obvious that he wants to go to Barcelona that makes it 'OBVIOUS' that he doesn't want to play for United at all? Lad we have been following this Sanchez fellow since years.. SAF has been quoted as interested in him and even went as far as saying he is a player of the Cristiano Ronaldo levels.. Also Sanchez has in quotes said that he is a fan of Man United.. So I again ask you where did you get your info from where he 'CLEARLY' & 'OBVIOUSLY' doesn't want to play for united.. As of now he prefers Barca over the like of United.. and that's that! And Like you, I too am not optimistic about our chances of getting him! But I still don't go around making up stories of how he has made it 'OBVIOUS' that he doesn't want to play for Manchester United
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Lad??? Wtf?

You are clearly devoid of some neurons! I am no questioning how good he is.

I have seen a load of crap written about him being an United fan, usually by dreamers like yourself. I look forward to you proving me wrong with a quote from a reputable source.The quote I saw was quite different from the way it was perceived by United fans.

I am not making stories about anything, in my world, using my head as opposed to fantasy, there is nothing written anywhere that suggests he wants to play for Man Utd.

You sound like a right proper Walter Mitty, a right headcase.
 
Interesting article On Udinese set-up:
How Udinese beat the system and stands at the gates of La Liga

By Eric Beard
At the end of the 2009-10 season, Granada CF and Barcelona B finished first and second in the third tier of Spanish football, both gaining promotion to Liga Adelante. This past season, Barcelona B finished 3rd and Granada finished 5th.
Promotion into La Liga is almost identical to promotion into the Premier League. That is, the best two sides in the league go directly into La Liga while the next four battle it out in promotion playoffs. However, there’s one caveat. Barcelona B could not compete for promotion into La Liga because it is part of FC Barcelona and two sides from the same club cannot play in the same league. Instead, 7th place Real Valladolid was able to take on 4th place Elche CF in the playoff semifinals. Elche progressed into the promotion final in dramatic fashion, as did Granada. One Spanish club from Andalusia and one from the province of Alicante, it all seemed so straightforward.

However, when Granada faced Celta Vigo this past Saturday in the playoff semifinal, 6 out of the 11 starters were Udinese-owned. In fact, 11 players on the Granada roster are “on loan” from the Italian club, including starlets such as Dani Benitez (pictured above) and internationals such as Ghana’s Jonathan Mensah. Simply, the majority of Granada’s squad is an Udinese B filled with Spanish flair. Where the rules stopped this year’s Barça B squad from progressing, Udinese used a different country to push forward. And now, after the two matches in the playoff final on Wednesday and Saturday, Udine could essentially have a team in both Serie A and La Liga. An Italian job indeed.

The transformation was a novel one, but by no means are Granada’s fans upset by the Italian presence; they are absolutely loving their rapid resurgence in Spanish football. El Graná are back and the seats in Los Cármenes are filled once again. So how did this happen exactly? Well, let’s start with Udinese owner Gino Pozzo.
In 2009, Granada CF was a club in crisis, both competitively and financially. The club was on the brink of disappearing, despite a rich 80 year history. Gino Pozzo saw a money-making opportunity that would double as a way to develop Udinese talent, and in July 2009, the two clubs signed a partnership agreement so the majority of Granada’s squad would become Udinese-owned, while the Italian club could also send over its reserves and youngsters.

So what are the benefits for Gino Pozzo and Udinese Calcio? Well, the strategy is to use the exposure Granada gets in the Spanish league to showcase Udinese-owned talent that will, in turn, gain value in the transfer market. With Pozzo’s commitment to investing, Granada only seems likely to improve in the future. And Pozzo’s “buy cheap, gain exposure, sell high” philosophy is already working. Just imagine the possibilities for profit if Granada gets into the top flight in Spain.
Will Granada’s success be sustainable? Yes, and legally so. Though Pozzo said, “we put ourselves in Granada because it is a city with a great football potential,” there is also a legal framework that ensures that Udinese’s partnership with Granada is a permanent one. But amongst this clever system, one thing remains clear: if Granada are promoted the boys by the alhambra will not be the only one reaping the rewards.
But is this the start of a larger trend? Udinese’s plan is profitable and it has revived Granada. As a result, both parties are happy. Real Madrid have a notable connection with Getafe, but it’s not quite as imposing as this. Should Barcelona abandon Barça B, take over local side Catalan side Girona FC and make a run for La Liga? Should Arsenal impose its eye for talented youth by rebuilding Nantes in Ligue 2? Is this the future of relationships between the ‘haves and have-nots’ of football?
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Imagine if we had Manchester United B getting our players experience in the championship every year.

Sorry this is off-topic but is Spanish football set up to completely and constantly help develop Barca's youth at every single level at every turn?

You can't compete with that multifaceted layer of coaching, playing time and young player acquisition laws in Spain.

Either UEFA step in and allow all European countries similiar set-ups, or institutions like the FA who believe cavemen like Stuart Pearce to be adequate to manage our U21's while allowing our most promising youngsters to miss important international tournaments just because the player has got the notion he's above the tournament.

Does my fecking skull in tbh.

/rant
 
I wouldn't like to see a club "take over" another club within the same country as there could be conflicts when the two are playing against each other if they both end up in the same league. Doing it with a team in another country like Udinese have sounds good and appears to be working for them. Manchester United B could be an option in the future, depending on the rules, as the reserve league seems to be going down the pan and sooner or later there won't be one.
 
If we did a Manchester United B, I've little doubts we'd base it somewhere in Asia. It'd be so lucrative it'd be crazy.
 
We have a club in Brazil that will start scouting out the best Brazilian talent in the world fairly soon and we get first dibs. Its really no different. Those kiddies will play for Brazilian sides but when they hit 18 will move to europe to become top talents either for us or some other clubs.
 
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