Older players are not cheaper because of resale value, it's longevity.
Alexis Sanchez | Staying at Arsenal after City deal falls apart
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I agree that Sanchez should be sold for much more than the Ox. But it would be probably stupid form City to pay 70+ mill for Sanchez. In 4 months he would cost half of that. Arsenal would sell for 70, IMO.
Edit: If City sign Sanchez in January, he would be eligible for the knock-out stages in the CL, if I'm not mistaken.
The only reliable links were to Juve, Arsenal and Liverpool. You could of blown us out the water on wages and he would of gone to you. IMO you weren't in for him because you went for DiMaria instead.
Yes, he is eligible to play for a Champions League club, because Arsenal are in the Europa and UEFA do not consider him to be 'cup-tied'
Ibrah was on a free. A 29yo Higuain cost 90m, a 29yo Zidane cost world record money
The only reason the money is so low is because of the short term contract.
While I don't think the PX rumour makes sense for City, to say Sterling is worth 70-80 mil is quite laughable, even in todays crazy market valuation.
Sanchez is a far better player, and City would stand a better chance at winning the league with him. Even with a year left on his contract, Sanchez is a more valuable asset based on form.
Logically it makes no sense, but I could see City willing to give Sterling up, they hardly need him with the attacking options they have. This is city, who paid 50 mil for KYLE WALKER mind
I hate to break it to you, but we are talking about Txiki and Pep here, who after all thought it a good idea to swap prime Eto'o plus 50m € for Ibrahimovic back in '09, only for Ibrahimovic to flop and for Eto'o to help Inter to a treble
Just because it sounds unbelievably stupid doesn't mean they are not capable of doing it.
If Kyle Walker is worth 50m, Sterling for 70-80m seems like a bargain.
Using what they paid for him is pointless, they overpaid and then some for him at the time. If we were to apply the same logic to our signings, we should be swatting away large offers left right and centre for most of our squad. Even in this market, Sterling is worth £50m tops.
There wouldn't be a mug on the planet who would pay that for Sterling
What City pay for players generally isn't what they are 'worth' on the open market.
I hate to break it to you, but we are talking about Txiki and Pep here, who after all thought it a good idea to swap prime Eto'o plus 50m € for Ibrahimovic back in '09, only for Ibrahimovic to flop and for Eto'o to help Inter to a treble
Just because it sounds unbelievably stupid doesn't mean they are not capable of doing it.
Eto'O had to be moved - Samu's ego issues are well documented and it was a matter of time, no one doubted his talent
What a load of nonsense.
When did Sanchez become this winner? When he drops down in theatrics when they conceded a goal and laughs his little heart out on the bench when he thinks the cameras aren't on him? Or when he has a go at his teammates for fluffing a pass after he runs down blind alley after blind alley holding onto the ball for too long?
The truth right here.
I think you are vastly underrating mugs on the planet. Does 35m for Andy Carroll ring any bells?
I think you are vastly underrating mugs on the planet. Does 35m for Andy Carroll ring any bells?
It does. Each club loses the plot from time to time.
All in all, Sanchez offers more to City than Sterling. So I can see why they would be willing to lose him. Sanchez would be a regular starter, Sterling is currently a bench player and they have better options than him in Silva, Silva, De Bruyne, Sane. And they'll buy again next summer.
Agreed. Fairly fed up with Sanchez's histrionics. How are Arsenal fans so blind to his faux passion?
Shame to see him go to City. Don't think they'll get the best out of him either.
50m is the most id offer for a guy with one year left, id also turn it down if i was Wenger.
why i think he will stay
people think him going there guarantees the league, i disagree.
I think Arsenal would be absolutely mad to keep hold of Sanchez.
Take £50, £60 or £70 Million now for a player that will walk away for nothing in a year.
Sanchez must be having such a negative impact on the Arsenal dressing room, and he isn't going to produce 100% performances on the pitch either, so I don't see the logic of forcing him to stay.
Wenger is a stubborn bastard, if i was him and he had to let him go, demand a top player in return or no deal
The attitudes at Arsenal are too soft but Messi also wanted Alexis gone and gave him a high degree of criticism.
Alexis looks great in highlights but he loses the ball about 10 times a game from overdribbling and passing to the opposition due to his selfish game. MOTD viewers don't see that and Arsenal fans forget when he scores his winners. But his goals have come at a cost of overall team play.
Some Dortmund fan said same thing about Dembele (how he lost the ball), funny how negative side of the player stars shining so brightly when player wants out isn't it?
I agree Sanchez in a better player now (and may always be, who knows). But Sterling is 22, English, and in the current crazy world where Neymar can go for £200m, I don't think £70m is at all out of whack. Pogba was how much again? £89m plus bonuses? And that was a year ago and things have gone up considerably since then.
I wouldn't want to see City sign him but yeah scoring goals isn't their problem and I really fail to see how Sanchez, Aguero, Jesus, Sane, Sterling, Silva, Silva & De Bruyne all fit in?
---------------Ederson---------------
---Kompany---Stones---Otamendi---
Walker------Fernandinho------Mendy
-------De Bruyne----D.Silva-------
---------Jesus---------Sanchez---------
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---------------Ederson---------------
Walker--Kompany--Stones--Mendy
-------------Fernandinho-------------
-----De Bruyne-------D.Silva-----
B.Silva---------Jesus---------Sanchez
Either way it doesn't look great for Aguero, Sane or Sterling
When has Messi ever been critical of Alexis? This is one of those nonsensical media rumours that have a life of their own
Comparisons with Pogba is weird.
You have a point though, when a player like Stones was worth 50 Million then Sterling is easily worth double of that.
There was talk of Messi bullying Alexis before his transfer to Arsenal. Whether the source is accurate I have no idea.
I've said that about Alexis for years, you can look up the stats for yourself his dribbles to tackled ratio is one of the worst in the league.
That's true, though. And the guy isn't that good in some circumstances, like Martial.
With less protagonism, his flaws will be more evident.
That's precisely the point, a silly rumour that apparently has maintained some legs with zero evidence. Can't undermine players based on innuendo and internet gossip, no player has ever accused Messi of bullying anyone - it's a laughable assertion
Right it's heresay
Either way what did you make of Alexis at Barce. Did he overdribble as much as he does at Arsenal or has he just got more freedom here?
I didn't say the post was wrong, it's just how fans change the way they see the player. Nothing wrong with that though, just saying.
I liked him very much but I suppose most fans were probably disappointed to some degree owing to how little of the Udinese version of him that was taking on opponents all by himself. He was moved around a lot and probably most would agree that he was handcuffed to some degree. He scored some fantastic goals and showed up in some big matches but there was definitely a feeling, perhaps unfair expectation, that he'd provide more goals. I think ultimately he didn't have the freedom to really express his game and he's not merely a winger. Last season Pep remarked that he probably failed to take advantage of him as a CF which is probably the idea he has for him now but I am unconvinced this is where he could help best
I actually thought some great chemistry was building between him, Neymar and Messi in that last season before his sale - of course that was largely predicated on Leo's injury that gave him some additional freedom to decide matches. It was also at that time I realized Neymar was ultimately going to have to inherit Messi's position which wasn't going to happen soon enough anyway. This is also why, incidentally, I stopped believing we needed a trident like MSN. When they received the ball in that final third, it can be special but if the midfield doesn't link well then it doesn't matter who is playing up front & I am curious to see how Neymar plays at PSG
It was an odd sale with Sanchey tbh, surprised me at the time and there weren't many clues leading up to it that it was even a real possibility due to also having Pedro who could provide similar at cheaper wages. Plus the Tata era brought wholesale changes although Alves says Alexis needed to go somewhere and be the protagonist as he never fully integrated into Barcelona's style of play. Me, I think he's absolute class but I would not count on him as your goalscorer if I were Pep - his best role is running the team with the freedom to go for goal whenever he wants. How well that would mesh with Silva & KDB? Not sure but ultimately that would still leave relying on Kun to give you goals. Messi knows that is risky
Did you tell him that when you were trying to sign RVP?
You would think he's prime Messi and Ronaldo combined. A good player, but seems to have a bad attitude. Imagine if he was benched in City, he would cause a lot of problems in their dressing room.
nah i didnt, not spoken to him personally before. weirdly
They have no money for major signings... they can only replace Sanchez with whatever you give them. And on deadline day few clubs will sell players capable of potentially replacing him.
If it happens ill happily eat humble pie, right now it aint though IMO
I hope Arsenal refuse to sell him and he sulks the whole year giving half-hearted performances. There is no way Chile will drop him, so he doesn't even have the pressure of not being selected for the national team.
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