Alexis Sanchez | Staying at Arsenal after City deal falls apart

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Lash said:
I'm not so sure that's true, the over-reliance on him could be a factor as why they didn't make top 4 anyway. Getting in some fresh faces and people who want to get the club going again could be a positive. Maybe I'm being a bit old school, but if someone was offering 50m for my best player, who is in the last year of his contract and has actively sought moves away - not to mention he was a little b*tch last year when the chips were down. I would snap your hand off. Like I said before, it's not Sanchez FC. Arsenal will continue to be a great team long after he's gone and I'd much rather focus on getting people in who'd want to be here. Let's not forget, you get shot of him for 50m, you could get in someone like Schick - an exciting talent and also basically add 20m to your Lemar bid. They've also could actually bother playing Perez, who is very capable of getting goals in this league and I fully expect Iwobi to be a bit more influential this season as well (although I do think he was ridiculously overrated last season).
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I guess you can argue it both ways. But I don't think they can replace him like for like in terms of quality for £50m, not even close. And as far as being a bitch is concerned, he was a bitch like Keane was a bitch. Exasperated by the ineptitude and mediocrity around him. Never gave anything less than his all as far as I can see. That's the kind of bitch a manager should want.

But yeah, I do see your point as well.
 
Lash said:
I'm not so sure that's true, the over-reliance on him could be a factor as why they didn't make top 4 anyway. Getting in some fresh faces and people who want to get the club going again could be a positive. Maybe I'm being a bit old school, but if someone was offering 50m for my best player, who is in the last year of his contract and has actively sought moves away - not to mention he was a little b*tch last year when the chips were down. I would snap your hand off. Like I said before, it's not Sanchez FC. Arsenal will continue to be a great team long after he's gone and I'd much rather focus on getting people in who'd want to be here. Let's not forget, you get shot of him for 50m, you could get in someone like Schick - an exciting talent and also basically add 20m to your Lemar bid. They've also could actually bother playing Perez, who is very capable of getting goals in this league and I fully expect Iwobi to be a bit more influential this season as well (although I do think he was ridiculously overrated last season).
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I think the club is probably looking to get Lemar or similar over the line prior to letting Alexis go. That's our MO anyway.

If we decide to keep him, then we have him for another year at his peak which may actually give us a shot at the title now we have Lacazette too. If we replace him with our back ups like Perez, even though I like him, we won't do too well.
 
Klopp_De_Klown said:
I think you are way off there, where did you get this number from? I know Real got around €90M and Juve got over €100M last year directly from Uefa in prize money.
  • Base fee for group stage: €12,700,000
  • Group match victory: €1,500,000
  • Group match draw: €500,000
  • Round of 16: €6,000,000
  • Quarter-finals: €6,500,000
  • Semi-finals: €7,500,000
  • Losing finalist: €11,000,000
  • Winning the Final: €15,500,000
Plus market share pool which was around €30M - €35M alone for the winners, depending on loads of factors determined by the value of the television market in each country but every club gets their share. The big 4 leagues get a large slice of this pool.
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Yeah, Ive checked that after making my bold claim. I'm surprised it has definitely improved. Still, you have to convert that to pounds and factor in Arsenal's inevitable exit in round of 16 and you're looking exactly at the figure I cited.
 
Adebesi said:
I guess you can argue it both ways. But I don't think they can replace him like for like in terms of quality for £50m, not even close. And as far as being a bitch is concerned, he was a bitch like Keane was a bitch. Exasperated by the ineptitude and mediocrity around him. Never gave anything less than his all as far as I can see. That's the kind of bitch a manager should want.

But yeah, I do see your point as well.
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Yeah I agree as well, there's no way they can buy direct quality and instant impact, in one player, for 50m. Yeah that was a cheap shot by me about acting like a bitch, but sometimes that attitude can be very toxic.

I do fully get the argument for keeping him as well.

WackyWengerWorld said:
I think the club is probably looking to get Lemar or similar over the line prior to letting Alexis go. That's our MO anyway.

If we decide to keep him, then we have him for another year at his peak which may actually give us a shot at the title now we have Lacazette too. If we replace him with our back ups like Perez, even though I like him, we won't do too well.
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yeah, don't get me wrong I'm not saying replace Sanchez with Perez. That would be absurd. I just mean if you replace Sanchez with options and it means you get a younger player in that, sure, will not give you the 40+ games of consistent performance like Sanchez - but 20 odd great performances and also strong back up options and make the squad a bit more competitive instead of a one man band.
 
Adebesi said:
Is it as simple as that? I actually don't know all the ins and outs. But in our case the Adidas money is tied in making it a bit more complicated than you are saying. But yeah for Arsenal it might not be as important. Tho I'd argue the less tangible factor of being a CL team, offering CL football, is pretty important. I've always thought so, despite plenty of evidence that it isn't the decisive factor.
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Yeah, I was arguing from Arsenal's perspective, for us it's a bit different because of Addidas. I really don't think it's that important. Money talks and that's the most decisive factor everything else is a rationalisation of that, including the very ritualistic bone to the supporters "I've always dreamed of this and that."
 
Lash said:
@giorno

I'm not really advocating those particular signings, I just meant the perspective of what you could do. I agree, it is a gamble, but I think it's a bigger gamble to keep him for the sake of possible CL qualification. Regardless how they perform this season, they're not going to be a team that competes for top honours in the CL, which will ultimately mean he'll leave and going to leave on a free. Would you not want to try and rebuild your team now, when you can actually get some sort of money to help you do that?
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Yes, but that's the point i'm making. Arsenal will sell alexis -for the right offer-
 
that paris united twitter who broke the news that PSG stole Alves from City, has just tweeted that PSG and Sanchez have agreed terms. Hope he does go there in a way just to prove to City fans that not all players want to play for City, and city only.

Guess it helps if they stopped believing everything they read, too
 
Seven Seas Sardines said:
I'm going to stay the weekend with a friend in Santiago, Chile whose cousin is the wife of Claudio Bravo. He gets tickets to all Chile games for free and is a lifelong Arsenal fan. Asked him for insider info and he told me the only thing he knows for sure is that Sanchez is not going to City. Phew!
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The new Acquire Me :drool:
 
He's a top class player and although I would like to see him every week in the league if it's going to be at City/United I'd rather he feck off to France. Or if he does go to any of the aforementioned English clubs it will be next season imo and Arsenal wouldn't get a penny which would also be pretty funny considering it's almost guaranteed he will still be one of the best players in the league next year.
 
United Pro said:
The new Acquire Me :drool:
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Not really, just been a weird couple of days. The Ukrainian girl I'm staying with right now made a painting for David Pizarro featuring him and his man-love Totti. He came over and picked it up the other day when I was out. :( Then the guy hosting me from tomorrow says Pizarro is old news and that his cousin Carla is married to Bravo... :lol:
 
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Oke now I'm not so scared of Arsenal anymore. Even if they sign new players they'll never replace Sanchez like-for-like.
 
With political situation in Qatar, I'm surprised if they sign Sanchez while Man City is interested in the player. Abu Dhabi, UAE is the big brother and we all know both the club owned by royal family in Qatar and UAE.
 
tomaldinho1 said:
Any time now Woodward...
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Arsenal would be stupid to sell him to us. It makes more sense from their perspective to keep him and let him go for free next season.
I imagine if psg fail with the neymar bid they will go all in for Sanchez
 
Looking increasingly likely that he'll have to stay at Arsenal for one more year, doesn't he? Europa league on Thursday nights and moaning at his teammates again when the ball doesn't come his way, not sure how how much he'll like to go through that
 
I think Sanchez is a realistic target if we really want him because of his contract situation. But sadly, our club seems not interested at all.

Just imagine if we can get him this year and Griezman next year. Our team will have 4 world class players with DDG, Pogba, Sanchez and Griezman. A tier below we have Baily, Mikhtaryan, Herrera. Hopefully our young players like Martial, Rashford, Lindelof, Shaw to step up. In 2018, we will be competing at the top again.
 
Supposedly the whole of Chile adore Alexis and despise Arturo Vidal because of his antics and ego. Can't really decide what's worse - the ridiculous ego and drunk driving or the sad smilie selfies...

I can only come to the conclusion that there's no likeable footballer from Chile. Maybe David Pizarro who is harassed by the Chilean population to this day for refusing to play internationals when playing for the national team was the equivalent of an Ibiza vacation. He deserves moving back to Rome to enjoy his bromance with Totti.

Claudio Bravo won't last another year in England either. He seems likeable but his family can't cope with England, his wife pushing him out all the time because of weather and language adjustments.

Imagine being with a beautiful wife who makes $100,000 per week, and you unsettle her cos you don't like rain or don't want to learn the most important language of the world. Deary me, the world has gone mad.

PS. I'd still take Sanchez' sad cnut faces and dog humping all day if he came here. I haven't been able to feel spoilt by cnuts since 2008.
 
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Rhyme Animal said:
Good. feck off out the PL if you're not joining Utd.
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Exactly.

I think that Arsenal should cash in now if we offer them the right deal. Ok they dont want to sell yet again to a rival but better to empty your rivals coffers and bump up your own compared to him joining the same rival for free anyway and its a great deal for everyone except Arsenal.

Also dont think Ive seen the amount of players that have agreed personal terms before the clubs have even spoke as this summer. Crazy.
 
Poor Sanchez is ill. He has "greedy" written all over him.
We should go for him. He needs money, we have money.
 
Robertd0803 said:
Exactly.

I think that Arsenal should cash in now if we offer them the right deal. Ok they dont want to sell yet again to a rival but better to empty your rivals coffers and bump up your own compared to him joining the same rival for free anyway and its a great deal for everyone except Arsenal.

Also dont think Ive seen the amount of players that have agreed personal terms before the clubs have even spoke as this summer. Crazy.
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Arsenal would want Martial in return for sure. They wouldn't want to strengthen Utd, leave alone Jose's team.
 
Seven Seas Sardines said:
Imagine being with a beautiful wife who makes $100,000 per week, and you unsettle her cos you don't like rain or don't want to learn the most important language of the world. Deary me, the world has gone mad.
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It's almost like it's an equal relationship where the man doesn't call all the shots and money is not the primary driver of life decisions. Deary me, mad indeed.
 
B20 said:
It's almost like it's an equal relationship where the man doesn't call all the shots and money is not the primary driver of life decisions. Deary me, mad indeed.
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I can see his point though. Whilst money may not be what keeps them here, the career of a footballer is short, and the player needs to be wherever provides him with the best opportunity for success. He's 34. He's not going to be playing for that much longer in the grand scheme of things.

This example is probably a poor one though, with City shelling out big money for a new goalkeeper, it probably means Bravo will be on the move again anyway.
 
Unless Woody and Mou are absolutely positive Griezmann is coming in January or June, which would explain why we'd be looking strictly at a classic winger, another stud on the left who can play upfront and middle like Sanchez should be our priority. We can get by with a frontline of Martial-Lukaku-Rashford, but won't go deep, especially in Europe, with mainly those three carrying the burden.
 
Great player but has shown a shocking attitude so far. I would be furious if i am an Arsenal fan, yet knowing the team will be completely shite without him
 
I don't judge him too harshly, he's seen the bottle factory that is Arsenal up close for 3 seasons now, and they aren't doing anything to fix the problem, instead giving Wenger yet another contract, if I were him I wouldn't want to waste the last few top years of my carewer while Wenger pads out his bank balance and makes excuses.
 
Still hoping Arsenal will buckle and sell him to City. Would be perfect for our attack. Although to be honest the money would probably be better spent on a CB or CM.
 
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