Alexis Sanchez | Staying at Arsenal after City deal falls apart

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giorno said:
Arsenal will sell Alexis if the fee is high enough. They won't sell to a rival for £50M maybe, but for £80/90M? Of course they will. Wouldn't make sense not to
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they will sell to a rival for 50m. 50m now or join city for free? Take the money and reinvest.
 
WPMUFC said:
they will sell to a rival for 50m. 50m now or join city for free? Take the money and reinvest.
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Might not be worth for that price, in this market. £90M though...
 
giorno said:
Arsenal will sell Alexis if the fee is high enough. They won't sell to a rival for £50M maybe, but for £80/90M? Of course they will. Wouldn't make sense not to
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Many of Arsenal's fans would not react well to them selling Alexis Sanchez to a PL rival. The logic of not selling, regardless of the size of the offer, is that it gives Wenger a significantly better chance of having a relatively peaceful final two years at the club. Sell Sanchez and the atmosphere around the club is bound to be very ugly, unless they happen to be top of the league from start to finish. The club are desperate for the fans to support Wenger this season rather than demand his departure.

Right now, Arsenal do what is best for Wenger rather than what is best for Arsenal. Of course, still a serious possibility that Wenger decides to sell, without appreciating the reaction it will produce.
 
kundalini said:
Many of Arsenal's fans would not react well to them selling Alexis Sanchez to a PL rival. The logic of not selling, regardless of the size of the offer, is that it gives Wenger a significantly better chance of having a relatively peaceful final two years at the club. Sell Sanchez and the atmosphere around the club is bound to be very ugly, unless they happen to be top of the league from start to finish. The club are desperate for the fans to support Wenger this season rather than demand his departure.
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or sanchez demands to leave, goes mental behind the scenes and wenger is forced to bench him for the season.
 
Loke said:
think you're disregarding the fact that sanchez still has a 1 year contract so arsenal have full power on what is to be done with him for this summer transfer window.

Folks talking like everything is outwith the club's hands. Sanchez can decide what he wants, but arsenal do not have to listen to it at all.
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Well no arsenal doesn't have the power. Sure he is under contract. But you can only offer him a contract but you can't force him to sign it. Then you have two options - either sell him this window or keep him and lose him on a free the next. If you want to sell him you don't have the power to ask for too much cause like you said he has only one year left.
 
I wouldn't sell a player of Alexis's ability to a rival if I had any chance of winning the league or making the top four. Arsenal's problem isn't money, it's credibility. Credibility that's needed to lure other world class players to their team. If they give him to City it gives them almost no chance of making top four and it severely dents anyone else's chances to win the league. I would be livid if United sold De Gea to any of the top six teams. Hell, I'd even be annoyed if they sold Fellaini or Mata to one of those teams. Team management off the pitch is just as important as the management on it.
 
If City get Sanchez, they surely must win the league especially if they sign Walker and Mendy.

Ederson
Walker Kompany Otamendi Mendy
Fernandinho
De Bruyne Bernardo Silva
Sanchez Aguero/Jesus Sane

I fully expect them to sign another CB to replace Otamendi and then I think maybe they can improve on Fernandinho, but that is some team they have there.
 
I feel Arsenal's position in these negotiations isn't as weak as people are making it out to be. Sanchez is already 28-29 and should Arsenal insist on keeping him, teams would be knowing that the player they are trying to sign is already on his last legs with 1 or 2 seasons left in him at max as, despite his smaller frame, he relies on physicality-pace, energy, strength.
And looking at transfer strategies of PL clubs, everyone is looking for the next big thing which means City may not even be interested in his services next season.
Finally his worth to Arsenal is way more than 50m IMO. Lets just say, they win the EL this year, I do think they are the favourites, that's 20-25m guaranteed plus CL football guaranteeing another 15-20m (?) For next season. They would finish atleast a position or maybe even 2 higher with Alexis than withoit him so that's a few million more. It gives them global visibility and having a World class player would help them get a few million more in any sponsorship deals. And finally a few million they could get by Shirt sales. All this combined, that's worth 50m at the very least.
 
Looks like City is building really strong team, only one in England who can even dream about winning CL. Chelsea is not that quality, United, Pool or Spurs either. English teams must upgrade their skill level and City are doing exactly that. I hope we are doing same but looks like we aren't. Two way workhorses ahead of world class attacking players. With those it's possible to get top4 in PL but just can't see us winning Real or Bayern in CL quarterfinal/semifinal. They are just too skilful right now. Have to say that im jealous if they sign Sanchez too.
 
I'm sure some people wake up in cold sweats thinking about City.
 
anant said:
I feel Arsenal's position in these negotiations isn't as weak as people are making it out to be. Sanchez is already 28-29 and should Arsenal insist on keeping him, teams would be knowing that the player they are trying to sign is already on his last legs with 1 or 2 seasons left in him at max as, despite his smaller frame, he relies on physicality-pace, energy, strength.
And looking at transfer strategies of PL clubs, everyone is looking for the next big thing which means City may not even be interested in his services next season.
Finally his worth to Arsenal is way more than 50m IMO. Lets just say, they win the EL this year, I do think they are the favourites, that's 20-25m guaranteed plus CL football guaranteeing another 15-20m (?) For next season. They would finish atleast a position or maybe even 2 higher with Alexis than withoit him so that's a few million more. It gives them global visibility and having a World class player would help them get a few million more in any sponsorship deals. And finally a few million they could get by Shirt sales. All this combined, that's worth 50m at the very least.
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Sanchez does have the option of using the Bosman ruling to buy out his contract and City aren't beyond enticing him to do so either. I'm sure Sanchez has the capacity to raise the 5 million or so it would take to free himself and it would be cheaper for City to go that route than paying up a transfer fee plus huge wages. It all depends on how determined he is to leave and at 28/29 this is last chance to earn the real big bucks whilst having a fair crack at genuine success. To me Arsenal will offer spirited but ultimately token resistance to manage the optics.
 
RDCR07 said:
Well no arsenal doesn't have the power. Sure he is under contract. But you can only offer him a contract but you can't force him to sign it. Then you have two options - either sell him this window or keep him and lose him on a free the next. If you want to sell him you don't have the power to ask for too much cause like you said he has only one year left.
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He is still under contract so saying his employer doesn't have a say or the power over his transfer this summer is a bit naive. Arsenal can simply say no and allow him to leave as a free agent next season. It sounds crazy but given the toxic atmosphere currently between the fans and the club, it would be foolhardy on the club's part to sell him to any Premier League club this summer.
 
Nero said:
I'm sure some people wake up in cold sweats thinking about City.
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Yeah too much wanking over their (potential) squad. It's been the same scenario every start of the season the last several years:

They spend a ton to assemble a formidable squad that most rate to win it all. Then they underperform and show weakness in key defensive areas.
 
Il Prete Rosso said:
He is still under contract so saying his employer doesn't have a say or the power over his transfer this summer is a bit naive. Arsenal can simply say no and allow him to leave as a free agent next season. It sounds crazy but given the toxic atmosphere currently between the fans and the club, it would be foolhardy on the club's part to sell him to any Premier League club this summer.
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Yes if it was any other club we could have said they won't sell and are willing to lose him on a free. But time and again Arsenal owners have proven they care more about money and profits rather than winning trophies. So if someone were to offer 60m for Sanchez they will surely take it.
 
RDCR07 said:
Yes if it was any other club we could have said they won't sell and are willing to lose him on a free. But time and again Arsenal owners have proven they care more about money and profits rather than winning trophies. So if someone were to offer 60m for Sanchez they will surely take it.
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They'll probably play the waiting game and hope that Bayern or another Continental club come in with a sizeable offer as Arsenal will probably deal at about €35m to the right bidder.
If this doesn't happen or if Sanchez refuses to go to anywhere but City then the game takes another turn and Arsenal will have to decide whether to stick or twist.
 
Gentleman Jim said:
They'll probably play the waiting game and hope that Bayern or another Continental club come in with a sizeable offer as Arsenal will probably deal at about €35m to the right bidder.
If this doesn't happen or if Sanchez refuses to go to anywhere but City then the game takes another turn and Arsenal will have to decide whether to stick or twist.
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Maybe he'll decide to stay at Arsenal?
 
Gentleman Jim said:
He may. It won't be because he wants to go forward with the club though.
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No Arsenal fan i know could give a shit where he wants to 'go forward' tbh. It's an important season for the club, to a man they'd like to see him on the pitch for Arsenal next season & then wish him well wherever he wants to go when his contract is up.

Sell him to City and there'll be mutiny in the air!
 
John_Jensen said:
No Arsenal fan i know could give a shit where he wants to 'go forward' tbh. It's an important season for the club, to a man they'd like to see him on the pitch for Arsenal next season & then wish him well wherever he wants to go when his contract is up.

Sell him to City and there'll be mutiny in the air!
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So when you say that "maybe he'll stay at Arsenal" then you acknowledge that it will be against his wishes? It's just a matter of when and to whom he leaves for?
If so, then that's what I said all along.
To me, City and Bayern are both playing a cute game to get him out of the club and at the moment I favour Bayern as his final destination and I think that it will happen this summer.
 
Sterling Archer said:
Yeah too much wanking over their (potential) squad. It's been the same scenario every start of the season the last several years:

They spend a ton to assemble a formidable squad that most rate to win it all. Then they underperform and show weakness in key defensive areas.
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They have, but you have to admire the attacking options they have and it's something we've just let them do. We should have been in for a lot of the signings they've made but we didn't even try and our attack is so weak in comparison.
 
Gentleman Jim said:
So when you say that "maybe he'll stay at Arsenal" then you acknowledge that it will be against his wishes? It's just a matter of when and to whom he leaves for?
If so, then that's what I said all along.
To me, City and Bayern are both playing a cute game to get him out of the club and at the moment I favour Bayern as his final destination and I think that it will happen this summer.
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I'm acknowledging that it may be against his wishes, you're the one that seems to be inside his head.
 
John_Jensen said:
I'm acknowledging that it may be against his wishes, you're the one that seems to be inside his head.
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I'm taking my best guess based on the events of the last few months.
He doesn't want to stay at Arsenal otherwise he would have snapped your hand off for the generous new contract that has been offered.
It's seemingly not about the cash as City and Bayern are reportedly only offering similar terms as you, it's about doing what you think is right for your career.
 
Gentleman Jim said:
I'm taking my best guess based on the events of the last few months.
He doesn't want to stay at Arsenal otherwise he would have snapped your hand off for the generous new contract that has been offered.
It's seemingly not about the cash as City and Bayern are reportedly only offering similar terms as you, it's about doing what you think is right for your career.
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My point is it's about doing what's right for Arsenal.
 
John_Jensen said:
My point is it's about doing what's right for Arsenal.
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Yes, that's why Bayern re-entering the picture could give you a way out.
There's probably enough about their interest to persuade Sanchez to go there at a pinch. Money, trophies, winter break, Vidal, Ancelotti's kind words and a big crowd to play in front of every week is a very attractive package to offer him.
 
Hoeness just said two days ago they're not gonna give him €25M a year

Don't think he wants to go to bayern
 
Raoul said:
If they buy Lacazette and Mahrez, AND retain Alexis, that would be a pretty good summer for Arsene.
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Definitely. Would be excellent business imo. Most fans were fearing the worst after his extension, but there'd be a decent amount of optimism heading into next season.
 
After the negative reaction from fans to the sale of Van Persie, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they hold him to his last year knowing his options because of age will diminish next year. Getting another year out of Sanchez with Lacazette and maybe Mahrez certainly gives Arsenal a tilt at the title without strengthening their rivals.
 
Wenger will never sell to us again, having handed us the title along with RvP!
 
David Court said:
After the negative reaction from fans to the sale of Van Persie, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they hold him to his last year knowing his options because of age will diminish next year. Getting another year out of Sanchez with Lacazette and maybe Mahrez certainly gives Arsenal a tilt at the title without strengthening their rivals.
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Their defense will still bottle it at some point during the season.
 
Missing out on Sanchez not once, not twice, but three times will surely be one of the biggest transfer disappointments of my lifetime, he's right up our street I can't believe we've never signed him. Right up there with thinking we would spend the Ronaldo money on Kaka & Benzema only for Real to buy all three. The retched bastards.
 
Strange situation this. He strikes me as wanting to leave so he can compete for trophies, and let's face it he really deserves to because he is a fecking phenomenal player. Would obviously be a really good bit of business for Arsenal to keep him, but surely it'd be a last resort for Alexis himself.

Or maybe he does just want more money. Who knows?
 
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