oh that makes more sense.
Alexis Sanchez | Signed for Arsenal
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Unproven in EPL is such a nonsense. Fellaini was PL proven, Modric was not when Spurs bought him
Fact is the position they lacked in the most was forward. They got a good one in. They don't play a 4-man midfield, they play with 4231 and they lacked one man for the setup.
How can It be nonsense. Many strikers from outside the EPL have flopped. Many have done well. We dont know what Costa will do. So it is actually nonsense to assume he will be an automatic hit. Torres and BA were PL proven and did not fit into Chelsea system. Eto a proven CL striker didn't do much. So it is hopeful, not guarantee Costa will solve their problem. Look at Arsenal for some additional evidence of known non-EpL strikers that flopped.
As for their formation and FAbregas, excellent player. But whether Chelsea play 3, 4 or 5 in the middle it is certainly not their weak spot. They bossed everyone of the top teams last year.
It is also nonsense to assume he'll definitely be a failure. He scored 36 goals last season in 52 games, that is phenomenal. He is a misfit for the way Spain try to play but he was brilliant for the way Atletico plays and Chelsea plays in a similar fashion. He has got physical presence, which I think is a great asset for a forward in the PL, he is lethal in the box, I really wouldn't know why so many think he'll be a failure. It is always a possibility ofcourse, but being PL proven is a big bunch of nonsense, simply because it is not relevant. Torres was the best striker in the PL for a very long time, yet now he sucks at Chelsea, simply because he lost his touch and the way Chelsea plays doesn't fit him. What is important is the fitness of the player, the sharpness and confidence of a player, the skills as a striker and wheter the way your team plays fits your style or not. Diego seems fit, he has looked very sharp and confident, he should fit the way Chelsea plays and he certainly has some important skills as a striker. PL proven or not doesn't have anything to do with it, Ibrahimovic isn't PL proven either, you wouldn't doubt he'd be a fantastic PL striker however.
I'll believe it when I see Sanchez fisting gunnarsaurus, if they pull it off he's great player though and I suspect his skill set matches the Prem better than La Liga.
The same way a manager could convince a player to sign for them because they have a vision. Players aren't always motivated by the same glory hunting crap we as fans pigeon hole ourselves in. They can see a project and want to be part of it. Also, you don't know if Sanchez could be the player that takes them back to winning the league. You're also forgetting that Wenger is a highly respected and influential manager in Europe. It won't take long for him to convince a player to join Arsenal.
Edit: and why would he join Juventus? Where's the thrill in joining a club you know is going to win the league anyway? There's no challenge there.
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Gunnersaurus does the fisting.
You havs just defeated your own arguments.
I didnt say he would be a failure I said he is unproven In the EPL. His scoring ability is not in quesstion it is whether he will fit into Chelsea system which as yet is unknown. As you said he didnt fit into Spains system. So who is to say without doubt he will be a hit with Chelsea.
Gutted he's off to Arsenal but that's purely out of jealousy, much rather that than Liverpool. He's going to be a brilliant signing though and their midfield is really quite scary now, if they somehow get Khedira and a top striker then it wouldn't surprise me at all to see them win the league next season. It's going to be very close but with a couple more good signings United will be right up there too I think. Now Arsenal have won a trophy again I don't envisage it being long until they add a few more, signing Sanchez is massive for them, great player.
I wonder how will Arsenal play him.
Wilshere Ramsey
Ozil
Walcott Sanchez Carzola
There are lots of pace, skill and quality of passing up front. Sanchez will also score plenty of goals, Walcott and Ramsey will score quite a few too.Ozil
Walcott Sanchez Carzola
Wilshere won't start, Bender or whoever we sign for DM will.
It's just common sense that shouldn't be argued. I was surprised that people could think otherwise. Top manager always want to spend money and buy quality player, if he could.
I really don't know much about Sanchez but this nonsense of vision always baffles me. Players always tend to make a decision based of the financial aspect or at the chance of winning trophies. Arsenal are a big club and they have an equal chance of winning than any other big clubs in the PL so his decision could be based on that.
I really doubt he was sold on any "vision" which Arsene might have wanted to share with him.
More likely it'll be:
Giroud/Walcott
Cazorla/Ox. Ozil Sanchez
Ramsey Bender?
Just a guess really, but that seems a lot better. Don't think they'll use Sanchez as the striker, more likely he'll be the main man coming off the wing playing like a wide forward, and Ozil supplying. They still need a striker as no chance Walcott will stay fit all season and Giroud isn't good, but the rest of that front 6 is excellent, if they do get Bender as well.Cazorla/Ox. Ozil Sanchez
Ramsey Bender?
Well I'd suspect a large part of their decisions are made on how the teams actually play football, the other players at the club, how he would fit in, how they aspire to play, and all that requires the manager to convince the player.
So who's this Sanchez bloke then? Is he any good?
Torres was PL proven, he failed badly. It's a cliche that pretends that Premier League is somehow the pinnacle of footba, a good player will do well everywhere, a not so good one will struggle regardless of the league.
Costa isn't a top class striker IMO like Aguero, van Persie, Suarez etc. but he is infinitely better than the dross they had playing up front for the past few seasons. To say he'll improve the squad but not first tea is ridiculous when he's clearly miles better than Eto'o and Torres.
As for Fabregas, I think they lacked a creative force to play next to Matic. He's also better than Oscar although only marginally. Won't improve them as much as Costa because as you say their midfield wasn't bad but he'll be a first teamer.
Yes, but the player already knows how the team plays. It's not like he is moving to a club just being formed or a manager still unknown.
Meh. Didn't want him at United anyway.
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Seems too aggressive to me - could leave their defence open if played like that.
He's a worker, he's tough, he's got the tools to be fine in the Premiership. Arsenal are stacked though, and Wenger loves giving random players plenty of time - like Rosicky.
Rosicky has been great for a few season's now. He's the only player who moves the ball very quickly, he thinks things through quicker than anyone on the pitch... He's fantastic. And most importantly he loves scoring class goals against the Spurs.
I wonder how much longer his legs will last though, but he still has some pace about him. .
He is a worker although he has been guilty of drifting in & out of matches. However, I this past season I saw a revitalized player for Barcelona. Definitely believe he's gotten better with Barcelona and even the player would & has acknowledged that - describing it as learning football all over again. He needed to play elsewhere, IMHO, to really get the most out of his talent. Good luck to El Jugadorazo
I can't wait to see him in action... I think he can be a revelation in this league once he gets accustomed to the pace of the league.
Who else do you think will be moved on? I'm assuming Tello will to make way for Deulofeu.
It saddens me to see that we aren't getting him (unless we tried and he wanted UCL) because he is echelons above Valencia, Nani and Young and also better than most wingers in football to be fair.
He frustrated fans a good portion of the time he was with the club but he really stepped his overall game up this past season - just might've happened too late in his tenure and those goals didn't result in trophies. A professional who played & trained hard and was well liked by his teammates, I love his qualities as a player. Maybe he's ready to really lead a big club, we'll see but I do believe he has to shine in the biggest matches more consistently. There was a time there when Messi was injured where he & Neymar developed some incredible chemistry on the pitch - I figured when Leo got healthy we'd end up with a real treat. Unfortunately, those 3 got to play together very rarely in the end - similar happened with HERM (Henry, Eto'O, Ronnie & Messi)
Tello has a deal with a loan (With option to buy) to Porto & his NT coach Lopetegui - somewhere between €8-12 million, similar structure to the Bojan deal
Apart from that, Song, Cuenca, Afellay & perhaps Alves
What happened to Afellay?
I remember host of top clubs wanting him before he joined Barca.
I remember host of top clubs wanting him before he joined Barca.
That formation will be picked off on the counter, especially in the big matches, IMO.
I think that's why they're linked with Bender/Khedira. To add some steel in midfield.
Shame we weren't in for him....however unsure where we'd fit him in. He's not a winger as he doesnt do the defending. And we have plenty for the front 3 (RVP, Rooney, Welbeck, Hernandez, Kagawa, Mata, Januzaj) if this is the formation, unless we were to let some go.
But he's a great signing for Arsenal - proper player type they've been crying out for.
But he's a great signing for Arsenal - proper player type they've been crying out for.
2 injuries knocked him out of the rotation at 2 different points with Barcelona and he never found his way back in. I'd love it if he stayed but new coach with no experience together means it's over
He does loads of defensive work, more then most wingers, so that's bollocks, he's also a very hard worker. He is most definitely a winger, and a world class one at that.
It's all good in saying we have options up front, but they aren't very good. We have 4 good striker who go to shit if they play elsewhere, and we have a few #10's who can't really play on the wings, and then a 19 year old winger who isn't yet ready to start consistently for us. A winger should be necessary to buy after a center back IMO.
Apparently this was one the barca website before being taken down
We probably were. he wanted Champions League football apparently. Of course, we are not going to admit that now
I can't believe Arsenal are getting him. That's a massive signing for them.
Thats pretty much the only reason why anyone would choose Arsenal over us this transfer window... I feel confident in saying next summer I feel we would not face the same issues.
My gooner mate thinks that he will be unveiled with their kit.
Well, Ramsey chose us over you.
I think the sooner this thread is deleted the better, I said a lot of things about Sanchez I don't want Arsenal fans quoting.
1 domestic cup in 9 years. I can't envision what that project will be. Arsenal hasn't even challenged for the title in the last 9 years, they are either 3rd or 4th. It's not like the club offers top salaries as well. Even if he has 2-3 good seasons he won't be offered the same money City, Chelsea or whatever will. He's used to winning while with Arsenal it's not guaranteed he'll play CL football in 2016. Wenger used to be like that. 9 years winning squat is likely to put a blemish on his CV.
As for Juventus - it's a league he knows well -played 3 seasons and now he has a realistic chance of winning with Juve I think that's a very good challenge for him, rather than the challenge whether he'll finish 3rd or 4th.
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