Alexis Sanchez | Signed for Arsenal

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Shark said:
That makes no sense whatsoever.
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I agree. As of last season, 6 teams performed better than us over 38 games. Thus, by any logic they were better than us.

Will they perform better than us this coming season, who knows. I doubt it even with their new purchases. Some like Liverpool have gone for depth rather than quality, and Suarez will be a loss, City don't seem to have done much and seem to have a few player issues, Arsenal don't seem to be fixing the areas which are weak, Chelsea have not really improved (is Costa better than what they had), Everton standing still and Spurs not doing a great deal.

Judging United purely on last year is quite comical. They played bad as a team and individually. However, we do seem to have targeted our weak spots. We may even do some more business in the next month.
 
Cassidy said:
Not at the business end of the season they didn't.
They always look like they can do something before Jan, then after they fade as usual. Its typical Arsenal not surprising.
Util they invest in a proper tough CM and a real top quality Striker they will never be real contenders in my eyes. Maybe Wenger will prove me wrong, maybe.
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Arsenal were top in mid Feb and then a fixture pileup with a depleted squad messed them up.
 
Shark said:
This has basically been the shite that Liverpool fans have been vomiting out for years. That their team is better than ours man for man, despite them finishing 7th and us winning titles. Right now, Arsenal are better, the table proves that. Moyes or not, we were fecking awful and I hope that LVG can turn that around with even more additions, offloads and most of all, a bloody good plan.
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You can't really talk about Liverpool since we consistently finished above them year on year.
I also do not think Liverpool are better than Chelsea but thats another story all together, still Liverpool finished above Chelsea in the league.
 
Anyway the thread is being derailed. Alex Sanchez is a great signing for Arsenal next season will be interesting.
 
Red Ross said:
Arsenal were top in mid Feb and then a fixture pileup with a depleted squad messed them up.
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So they wernt good enough then? Didn't have a good enough squad to deal with the long ass season, as usual?
 
alastair said:
Fine. We'll see. Personally, I can see the top four being the same next season and the topic of discussion being 'was it really all Moyes' fault?'
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We'll finish ahead of you, comfortably.
 
Cassidy said:
So they wernt good enough then? Didn't have a good enough squad to deal with the long ass season, as usual?
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True. First XI could easily compete but as a squad, Wenger seems too reliant on unproven youths to make up numbers.
 
SalfordRed1960 said:
I agree. As of last season, 6 teams performed better than us over 38 games. Thus, by any logic they were better than us.

Will they perform better than us this coming season, who knows. I doubt it even with their new purchases. Some like Liverpool have gone for depth rather than quality, and Suarez will be a loss, City don't seem to have done much and seem to have a few player issues, Arsenal don't seem to be fixing the areas which are weak, Chelsea have not really improved (is Costa better than what they had), Everton standing still and Spurs not doing a great deal.

Judging United purely on last year is quite comical. They played bad as a team and individually. However, we do seem to have targeted our weak spots. We may even do some more business in the next month.
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Sign Diego Costa and Cesc Fabregas = no improvement :wenger:
 
I think it would be exciting for the competition if Wenden can add another 2-3 top signings this windows and actually make a proper attempt to win the league.

What else do Arse need to complete the team/squad?
 
Red Ross said:
True. First XI could easily compete but as a squad, Wenger seems too reliant on unproven youths to make up numbers.
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Which youths did he rely on last season? The squad was plagued with injuries to important players at the business end of the season and as a result they fell out of contention. You can make an argument for him not rotating or strengthening his squad a bit more but most of the players they have now are experienced players.
 
Il Prete Rosso said:
Which youths did he rely on last season? The squad was plagued with injuries to important players at the business end of the season and as a result they fell out of contention. You can make an argument for him not rotating or strengthening his squad a bit more but most of the players they have now are experienced players.
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Gnabry, Sanogo, Hayden regualarly made the bench. Wenger has never had the luxury to rotate his players to the extent Chelsea and Man City can.
 
KingMinger22 said:
I think it would be exciting for the competition if Wenden can add another 2-3 top signings this windows and actually make a proper attempt to win the league.

What else do Arse need to complete the team/squad?
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Sanchez, Remy, Debuchy, Bender/Khedira & a backup goalkeeper. That is enough additions to make Arsenal start of season contenders.
 
Archie Leach said:
Yeah, I support Arsenal don't I!
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:lol: was joking, mate. I know what you meant, though. Especially if you are match goer, of course watching good game between teams with good players is as important as winning itself.
 
Red Ross said:
Gnabry, Sanogo, Hayden regualarly made the bench. Wenger has never had the luxury to rotate his players to the extent Chelsea and Man City can.
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Well he's now trying to use his money to do that. It's not like he had the money of City or Chelsea to buy class players to put on the bench. We should applaud clubs like Arsenal who try to do things the 'right' way and spend their own money to improve their squad and get back to the top.

And regards to Gnabry, he isn't a bad player by the looks of it. It's good that Wenger is trying to bring youth players into his first team. Chelsea nor City hasn't done that in years...their youth players go out on loan and never make the first team cause they keep buying players. So for a Utd fan to look down on Arsenal or Wenger for trying to supplement his squad with young academy or youth players is rather strange and ironic as Utd can be commended for doing the same thing to get to where they are.
 
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KingMinger22 said:
I think it would be exciting for the competition if Wenden can add another 2-3 top signings this windows and actually make a proper attempt to win the league.
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I'd be more excited if they gave us Ramsay and replaced Wenger with Steve Kean personally. I don't even mind Arsenal much either, I just don't particularly like them strengthening.

Better them than Liverpool though.
 
Dominos said:
Sign Diego Costa and Cesc Fabregas = no improvement :wenger:
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Both very good players, but do they make Chelsea stronger. Definitely stronger squad, but first 11. Not sure.

I would guess not being a Chelsea fan, Costa up front, Hazard, Matic, Fabregas, Oscar/Willian/Ramieres. Is that much stronger than what they had last year?
 
SalfordRed1960 said:
Both very good players, but do they make Chelsea stronger. Definitely stronger squad, but first 11. Not sure.

I would guess not being a Chelsea fan, Costa up front, Hazard, Matic, Fabregas, Oscar/Willian/Ramieres. Is that much stronger than what they had last year?
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They've replaced their two weakest positions from last year with proven quality. So yeah, their first 11 is better.
 
Il Prete Rosso said:
Well he's now trying to use his money to do that. It's not like he had the money of City or Chelsea to buy class players to put on the bench. We should applaud clubs like Arsenal who try to do things the 'right' way and spend their own money to improve their squad and get back to the top.

And regards to Gnabry, he isn't a bad player by the looks of it. It's good that Wenger is trying to bring youth players into his first team. Chelsea nor City hasn't done that in years...their youth players go out on loan and never make the first team cause they keep buying players. So for a Utd fan to look down on Arsenal or Wenger for trying to supplement his squad with young academy or youth players is rather strange when it;s rather ironic as Utd can be commended for doing the same thing to get to where they are.
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Yeah I agree with this. Apparently Arsenal are a 'joke of a club' (according to the masses) but the reality is, they have simply gone about things the right way behind the scenes and not invested obscene amounts to effectively buy trophies.
 
SalfordRed1960 said:
Both very good players, but do they make Chelsea stronger. Definitely stronger squad, but first 11. Not sure.

I would guess not being a Chelsea fan, Costa up front, Hazard, Matic, Fabregas, Oscar/Willian/Ramieres. Is that much stronger than what they had last year?
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I have to agree, it looks to me as if they are just replacing what they already have with playwers that offer something different.

Fabregas a great replacement for Lampard.
Diego? not convinced at all but a side step from Torres and Demba ba. Perhaps hell perform but I doubt it.
 
Tarrou said:
They've replaced their two weakest positions from last year with proven quality. So yeah, their first 11 is better.
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Replaced is the right word, but weakest. I would argue they are weaker at the back. Yes, they didn't have a prolific goal scorer, so it will be interesting to see how Costa does. Fabregas will add some thing different, but I would hardly have said Hazard, Willian, Oscar, Ramieres, Schurrle, Lampard, Matic, Mikel & Co was a weak spot for them.
 
Il Prete Rosso said:
Well he's now trying to use his money to do that. It's not like he had the money of City or Chelsea to buy class players to put on the bench. We should applaud clubs like Arsenal who try to do things the 'right' way and spend their own money to improve their squad and get back to the top.

And regards to Gnabry, he isn't a bad player by the looks of it. It's good that Wenger is trying to bring youth players into his first team. Chelsea nor City hasn't done that in years...their youth players go out on loan and never make the first team cause they keep buying players. So for a Utd fan to look down on Arsenal or Wenger for trying to supplement his squad with young academy or youth players is rather strange when it;s rather ironic as Utd can be commended for doing the same thing to get to where they are.
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This, I have a huge huge respect for Arsenal and would rather see them win the league than City, Chelsea or Liverpool. Great signing for them, he could have the same impact Saurez did.
 
SalfordRed1960 said:
Replaced is the right word, but weakest. I would argue they are weaker at the back. Yes, they didn't have a prolific goal scorer, so it will be interesting to see how Costa does. Fabregas will add some thing different, but I would hardly have said Hazard, Willian, Oscar, Ramieres, Schurrle, Lampard, Matic, Mikel & Co was a weak spot for them.
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Striker and CM, not the wide players. Defence was obviously one of their strong points. We're talking about first 11, as per your comment.
 
SolidShite said:
I have to agree, it looks to me as if they are just replacing what they already have with playwers that offer something different.

Fabregas a great replacement for Lampard.
Diego? not convinced at all but a side step from Torres and Demba ba. Perhaps hell perform but I doubt it.
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Not to derail the thread but just like you I don't see the hype around Diego Costa. Good striker yes but certainly not the type of player I hear people talking about like he's the best there is. I anxiously await to see what system Jose employs with him.
 
Great signing for Arsenal if this happens - I still don't rate Wenger these days but I am sure he'll now prove me wrong next season!

I hope we come first, with Arsenal second, Chelsea 3rd and Man City 4th next season :drool:
 
Derek Acorah said:
Great signing for Arsenal if this happens - I still don't rate Wenger these days but I am sure he'll now prove me wrong next season!

I hope we come first, with Arsenal second, Chelsea 3rd and Man City 4th next season :drool:
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I hope that we win, city, Chelsea and Liverpool are relegated and that Hull City finish second ;)

Sanchez is gonna shine at Arsenal, tho.
 
Il Prete Rosso said:
Not to derail the thread but just like you I don't see the hype around Diego Costa. Good striker yes but certainly not the type of player I hear people talking about like he's the best there is. I anxiously await to see what system Jose employs with him.
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Costa is not a great in the loose striker, but what he will do for chelsea will suit his style. He is similar to drogba in that he is strong and gets in defenders faces. Thats why mourniho signed him. Drogba had very poor distribution skills, but he used his strength to cause chaos and costa will mimic this
 
Mickson said:
I hope that we win, city, Chelsea and Liverpool are relegated and that Hull City finish second ;)

Sanchez is gonna shine at Arsenal, tho.
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Well of course, that would be great. I was being slightly realistic though! :)
 
SalfordRed1960 said:
Both very good players, but do they make Chelsea stronger. Definitely stronger squad, but first 11. Not sure.

I would guess not being a Chelsea fan, Costa up front, Hazard, Matic, Fabregas, Oscar/Willian/Ramieres. Is that much stronger than what they had last year?
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Indeed. They already had a great striker in current Torres and Ba as well as a great playmaker in Mikel and youthful Lampard. No improvement.
 
Sarni said:
Indeed. They already had a great striker in current Torres and Ba as well as a great playmaker in Mikel and youthful Lampard. No improvement.
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You mean these permanent first team players. Chelsea were not shit last year. They had a good squad. Costa is unproven at EPL level, and looked a bit of a donkey at the world cup. Fabregas is class, but from my recollection the midfield was Hazard, Oscar, Ramieres and Matic. Replacing one of those for Fabregas does what?
 
Well, as someone who tries to promote the idea of giving young players a chance, I suppose I should only want us to get one of di Maria and Sanchez.

If Januzaj is going to be groomed for a starting played then he'll need a lot of games out wide, something that would be harder to get with two players as good as di Maria and Sanchez in the team. Much less Jesse Lingard who, just because I like to repeat myself, I think would get many more goals and assists than Nani, Young or Valencia managed last season.

Also, you know, the chances of getting one of Sanchez or di Maria is probably well less than 50%, so getting both was always just a muppet dream.

Let's hope we get di Maria, he the better of the two.
 
Would have loved Sanchez to come to United, cracking little player and a mate for Vidal :)

I suppose Di Maria will have to do
 
surprised this hasn't been done yet. maybe waiting for someone else to come in for him or offer him as much money?
 
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