There is no need to be upset NoArro
Alexis Sanchez | Signed for Arsenal
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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I find it difficult to believe United don't want these players. They don't want Kroos, Sanchez etc. I mean, really?
That is a hilarious slap in the face for Liverpool.
You're off-loading your only star player to a major European club flush with talent, and can't even persuade a makeweight to join you as part of the deal.
You're off-loading your only star player to a major European club flush with talent, and can't even persuade a makeweight to join you as part of the deal.
If you haven't already, take a trip to RAWK and let it all soak in.
Right ok, so (so far):- We have 4 out (Rio/Vidic/Giggs and Buttner) and 2 in (Shaw/Herrera) and an 18 year old LB is answer to replacing the once colossus Vidic and Rio and Buttner, sorry i don't see that as an improvement what so ever, i see an area where we was already weak last season, as even weaker.
And a 25 year old who's not represented his country yet is the answer to replacing a club legend? He's an improvement over 40 year old Giggs yeah but i would say we've only improved slightly midfield, so how can you say we've improved overall? Our midfield is still the weakest out of all the clubs who will be challenging for the title next season.
Markovic/Origi/Can/Lallana and Rickie fecking Lambert.
Who is the etc?
Saying we didn't want Kroos I feel was just a way to save face, and it was stated very early on that Sanchez didn't want a club out of the CL.
As always I'll wait for our dedicated emissaries to supply the goods in the thread.
Bit of a reality check and eye opener. Certain players camps will have said no at first enquiry. With no CL it's not too difficult to understand really.
It's not to say we can't attract any talent at all, but they won't all come running to a club undergoing massive change...particularly if safer opportunities come their way at critical stages of their careers.
But I'm sure many will continue with the ballad of 'why aren't we going in and blowing everyone out of the water with all them monies?'.
I don't get why LVG wouldn't want him, not unless somebody like Di Maria or Reus in the pipeline, or he is making a gigantic mistake. Come to think about it, there may be one other explanation, maybay he is planning on playing 3-5-2 with wingbacks instead of wingers (not sure I'd be happy about that however).
Player turning us down, yea I can imagine that if we aren't putting up a higher salary but we could easily afford a wage that is like 50% higher or more (if what reported is correct), espeically if you look at we are paying all these other players. I doubt he would reject us if that was on the table.
Every summer there are always a couple of deals you just know would make alot of sense for United to complete and are actually feasible to complete, yet we don't do them and are sorry for it afterwards. I think Sanchez will be one of those deals.
Congratulations Arsenal...
Perfect GIF.At least I know who I'll be signing up for my Fantasy Team next year
Have they even signed the first two yet? Can was shit against us. Lallana is average. Rickie fecking Lambert is Rickie fecking Lambert. They're losing their best player.
Well if that is the case then the club is in a more dire situation than I imagined. It is a rare summer seeing all these top players suddenly becoming available and even Arsenal managing to attract one of them, but ofcourse has to be the year we're fecked over by Moyes and are exceptionally out of the CL. It is all working out brilliant again for United...
According to RAWK it's not a matter of him choosing Arsenal over Liverpool FC, it's simply and strictly a matter of him choosing London over Liverpool.
The summer window isn't closed yet. Chill out.
Shaw wasn't bought to replace Vidic and Buttner.
And who cares if Herrera hasn't represented his country yet ? And what does he have to do with Giggs, who barely played last year ?
We've made the ultimate transfer by bringing in a world class manager, who will be far more influential than any player we can sign. If you add to that the fact that we are probably going to buy several more players, it renders your post a bit meaningless.
Have Arsenal signed Sanchez yet? No but the deal (according to reports) is more or less done, so the guy who i quoted (before you quoted me) are going by things like that when talking about how much clubs have improved and like Sanchez it sound likes Liverpool have signed the first 2.
I hear you. Thiago is a good example. LvG is making a very average Dutch team perform better than the sum of its parts. I just hope he is not relying too much on his own brand of magic in what is the strongest EPL we have ever had.
Didn't he want Juve? We should all come back to reality about where his heart is. Good player though.
I completely agree. It's unpopular though.
Shaw wasn't bought to replace Vidic and Buttner.
And who cares if Herrera hasn't represented his country yet ? And what does he have to do with Giggs, who barely played last year ?
We've made the ultimate transfer by bringing in a world class manager, who will be far more influential than any player we can sign. If you add to that the fact that we are probably going to buy several more players, it renders your post a bit meaningless.
It doesn't mean it meaningless at all, I'm not saying United won't sign anymore, I'm talking about where we are right now.
Chelsea have also signed 2 players (same as United) and less departures and arguably Fabregas and Costa are better signings Herrera and Shaw, so looking at it like that we are even weaker than a team who finished 4 places above us.
This could be the first of many big money moves this Summer back to the Premier League. Should be fun next Season!
This isn't near the strongest EPL we have ever had. And yes, LVG will rely on his own brand of magic, Bayern supporters warned us that he thinks that can make every half decent player into a world class player. He also doesn't have a great transfer market record from one point of view. He wants players that suit his system, not great players for whom he has to suit his system.
What's Sanchez got to do with what I quoted and what I said? He said Liverpool have strenghtened the most. They've bought a big pile of shite.
It's a massive challenge to come back from what happened last year. I don't think some people understand how important the CL is. Look at when Liverpool dropped out, they were going in for Paul Konchesky, Charlie Adam, Christian Poulsen and Joe Cole!
If United don't make the top 4 this coming season it's an absolute disaster long-term. Luckily there is a good group of players and a proper manager at the helm now, and some fresh blood in Herrera and Shaw - not ready made worldies, but there are bags of potential there. It wouldn't surprise me if we managed to bring in one seriously big name, but at the same time I'd understand why if we don't.
Eh?
Wouldn't be surprised TBH. Either way they didn't have the money available.
And I realise RAWK is not reflective of the whole Liverpool fanbase, but reading those kinds of comments made me laugh.
06/07 to 08/09 premiership was much better than what the league is now. Whether next season will be as strong as those years remains yet to be seen.
This league isn't near the strongest EPL. At least last year it was a poor piss league, though this year might be improved with some new players that are coming to the league.
Shaw wasn't bought to replace Vidic and Buttner.
And who cares if Herrera hasn't represented his country yet ? And what does he have to do with Giggs, who barely played last year ?
We've made the ultimate transfer by bringing in a world class manager, who will be far more influential than any player we can sign. If you add to that the fact that we are probably going to buy several more players, it renders your post a bit meaningless.
I turely hope you are right about that one and that it aren't going to be De Vrij, Vermaelen type of players either.
About LVG I rate him very highly as a coach, and no doubt about the fact alot of our rivals are underestimating the effect he is going to have on the team but I fear alot of our fans are maybay putting a bit too much fate into the effect he is going to have. It is not like Ferguson is coming home, we know he'll do alot better than Moyes but there is doing better than last year and actually getting us back were we belong as a club of our standing. We shouldn't be rivaling Arsenal or Liverpool for 4th or 3th, we should be battling Chelsea or City for first (and be victorious and considered favorites). We belong in the upper tier of clubs with Real, Barca, Bayern and our goal should be to get back to that level as soon as possible. To do that we'll need alot more than simply LVG as a coach, getting him is a good first step but the second step is getting in good players, and missing out on a transfer like this is really not good in that respect (unless we have a better winger lined up ofcourse, but I doubt it).
Have to say you are losing me and don't think you know where you are yourself - This is the Sanchez thread, we are talking about how much clubs have strengthened right now and when all expected signings go through and you quoted me
Liverpool (with the small squad they had last season) are bringing in numbers and those numbers whilst aren't world class are decent with potential too, that's an improvement and exactly what people said Liverpool have to do.
I must have been asleep back then. Arsenal, City, Chelsea and Liverpool are all stronger and few teams nowadays are guaranteed points. I completely disagree with both of you.
Or of the player doesn't interest Van Gaal, because he thinks that Sanchez isn't suited to play on Van Gaal's system (whater it is).
I have said many times and many people who are familiar with Van Gaal's coaching said it too: for Van Gaal first and foremost, the most important thing is the system, then the quality of the players is a distant second. He chooses players to suit his system in most cases. If hhe thinks that Messi doesn't suit his system as well as Agbonlahor and Messi is available, he'll go for Agbonlahor instead. If people were expecting that we'll go just for big name players, then they are for a big treat and will be very dissappointed.
Yeah........ Right..........
That's not how it works though. How strong or weak we are depends on how our players perform, which depends a lot on the manager and his system. We lacked that with Moyes, which resulted in a year of a good side that had just won the league underperforming. That will return with Van Gaal imo, which will mean more in terms of our strengthening than most signings.
NoWinNoFee and NoArroJustBetta in one thread is too alike.Have to say you are losing me and don't think you know where you are yourself - This is the Sanchez thread, we are talking about how much clubs have strengthened right now and when all expected signings go through and you quoted me
Liverpool (with the small squad they had last season) are bringing in numbers and those numbers whilst aren't world class are decent with potential too, that's an improvement.
They've bought shite, and I wouldn't want any of their signings near our team.
Neither of them (obviously bar City) have been near as strong as on those years Raul mentioned. On those years, three English teams reached consistently semi finals of UCL while now barely a team or two reach quarter finals. And then the next group of teams completely fail on Europa League. EPL IMO currently is the second - third stongest league in Europe (after Spain and possibly Germany) while on that time it was a distant first.
So, time to wake up
Perfectly plausible that he may prefer London.
Not to worry:
United’s executive vice chairman is planning to spend heavily this summer in a bid to revive the club’s fortunes, following a disastrous season under David Moyes.
Luke Shaw, Toni Kroos and Cesc Fabregas are all targets for in-coming manager Louis van Gaal – who is expected to be handed up to £200m to overhaul his squad.
And Woodward insisted that figures released today proved United will be able to challenge for Europe’s biggest names, despite failing to qualify for the Champions League next season.
“This puts us in a healthy financial position to continue to invest in the squad," he said. “Everyone at the Club is working hard to ensure the team is back challenging for the title and trophies next season.”
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