Me too. Then maybe Juve would really want Nani and we do a cash + player deal for Vidal, to finally prove that it can happen in real world. And of course, to get the world's best midfielder.
Alexis Sanchez | Signed for Arsenal
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1. You can never have an abundance of top players, especially the game changing ones.
2. There's no order to which you should buy the players you need. I'm sure there are other transfers to complete.
He scores way more goals than any of the players mentioned and is better than all of them.
If he goes to Arsenal and we get Di Maria or Vidal, happy days and good for the premier league. If he goes to Arsenal and we don't get a big signing ourselves then that would be a bit shit.
The thing is, Juve can't compete financially with Arsenal in terms of transfer fee and wages. There's no way Juve will trump Arsenal's offer IF Arsenal really wants the player.
Way more goals in Barcelona. Although I do agree with your point
I am looking at this transfer in isolation, and transfers don't work that way. Juve spending so much on a player along with their interest in Iturbe and others, they would have to sell to balance.
Yes, but if Sanchez wants to go to Juve, then he'll probably go. He has shown in the past that money isn't everything from him (when Man City offered more money to both him and Udinese). Still, Sanchez to Arsenal would hopefully make Juve want Nani more. And considering that they also need to give the Mutu money to Chelsea and likely need to improve the team in other departments, then maybe thye would be willing to sell Vidal.
The problem with Juve is their offer is supposedly 18m compared to Arsenal's supposed 40m, the difference is too big to find a solution. Money may be nothing for Alexis, but not for Barcelona.
It was a closely fought contest with two competitors matching eachother step for step, but I would have to say that Silvestre edged it. I may be wrong but that is what I feel
I seem to recall Silvestre playing a brilliant one-two on the edge of his own box.
Sadly it was with Messi, who then rifled the ball home.
What a great signing he will be for Arsenal. I think Sanchez will either be deployed as a striker or RW. He plays in exactly the same position(s) as Walcott so it will be interesting to see how Wenger uses him.
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Germany are proof that you don't need a traditional striker to play attacking football.
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Germany are proof that you don't need a traditional striker to play attacking football.
In terms of transfer fee, Barcelona would accept Arsenal's offer. In terms of wages, there's no way Sanchez nor his wife is turning down 5 million net/year and life in London.
Not that old canard again. He built a back 4 of Lauren Toure Campbell and Cole for under £8m.
Yes, but getting Sol for free was a bit fortunate. He'd have cost a fortune if we'd had to buy him.
Sol for free! Always good to say that.
Yes they've been very exciting in this World Cup.
I imagine it's probably been posted, but telegraph reporting deal is practically done at 32m, 100k per annum. Seems like a very low salary.
It's probably more than that, though I've seen reports that he was only on 75K/week at Barca.
Heres the link, in case it hasn't.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...g-and-fend-off-competition-from-Juventus.html
Good buy for them I reckon. Some part of me wonders whether this is what they need, but maybe they'll be buying more over the summer, in which case it could be an excellent buy.
I imagine Carzola will be off to Atletico shortly. They're already well stocked in that area.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...g-and-fend-off-competition-from-Juventus.html
Good buy for them I reckon. Some part of me wonders whether this is what they need, but maybe they'll be buying more over the summer, in which case it could be an excellent buy.
I imagine Carzola will be off to Atletico shortly. They're already well stocked in that area.
It's actually 104k/week NET salary. That's a lot of money.
Sanchez is exactly what Arsenal need if the intention is to play him as a roaming centre-forward which I think it is.
Apologies.
Even then, "a lot" relative to the quality of footballer he is, it isn't that much. It comes to approximately 170k gross. That's probably at the lower end of players of his calibre these days. When you think our own Wazza is taking home 300k gross.
Except he isn't in reality.
And he is someone united need, I would swap all of nani Valencia kagwa young Zaha and bebe for this guy, he is someone we need, he can score goals and beat a man with pace. Which is someone all our wide players and guys like kagwa can only dream of doing
Maybe United are not bidding on Alexis because they know that Juventus will only sell Vidal if they can secure the signing of Alexis? Just speculating of course...
If they get a class DM then they'll have a seriously nice XI.
Not convinced it'll be strong enough to top City or Chelsea but they should definitely be right up there.
Not convinced it'll be strong enough to top City or Chelsea but they should definitely be right up there.
When Walcott's out they seriously lack pace and he can't be relied upon to play a full season yet. Without someone who can make those runs in behind Ozil is much less of a direct threat so it adds genuine class to their attack while complimenting their best attacking player. Definitely not something they absolutely needed but at that price they'd be silly to turn him down.
Do you think he can play as a striker?
It has been rumored that Wenger wants to use him as a center forward but I just don't see him turning into that. They still need a new striker IMO.
Great signing for Arsenal (when completed...)
(when completed...)If this goes through, the rest of the forum should be temp banned for a week leaving the forum to me alone.
I think it's a really bizarre idea and can't see him enjoying that role at all. If he was any good at it then Chile surely would have played him there by now with their persistent struggle to find a decent striker for years now. I vaguely remember him playing there for Barcelona and doing ok but looking very restricted in the same way Fábregas was. Wenger's good at developing players and all but I can't really see it. Sánchez, Ozil and Walcott in a fluid front three with a proper striker and two centre mids behind him - that's the only way I can see it really work. I'm sure he will try Sánchez there when Giroud goes through a bad patch though - he did play Arshavin there.
We didn't move for Sanchez because we are signing Di Maria!
I don't think it'd be his most effective position, but we must be careful how we define "centre forward". In the tradition number 9 sense? No chance. But, what Arsenals attacking players have are versatility and true footballing intelligence. They can all take up pretty much any position along the front 3 behind a striker with the exception of Walcott, who himself could probably play 3/4. If they gel, there is no reason why he can't form part of a devastating front 4 who constantly rotate and take up positions across the front. However, there are issues with that:
1) they still would need some organisation, and on a bad day it wouldn't work.
2) when you do that, you have to accept your defensive strength from those front 4 will be next to nil. They would need a world class midfield combination to cope, and I don't think they have that. Ramsey is too aggressive, flamini isn't amazing, and Wilshere seems to have faded.
On the other hand, they still have Giroud to mix it up.
Overall I wouldn't say it's the best move. They'd be better of playing off Giroud as a guy who holds up play, having Ozil in behind and Sanchez making runs. But that might place too much reliance on Sanchez to run in behind. As good a player as Cazorla is, having Ox/Walcott on the other flank would be more devastating than having Cazorla there, who wouldn't run in behind as much.
I think it COULD work, but overall don't see the point given their circumstances or given they have better combinations.
We didn't move for Sanchez because we are signing Di Maria!
Seriously though I'm gutted he's joining Arsenal. Can see him being awesome for them
Walcott/Wilshere/Ramsey/Cazorla/Ox/Ozil/Sanchez.
That is very good.
That is very good.
It's clubs like City and Chelsea which have corrupted our thinking as to what a player is worth paying. 104K/week net salary is a lot of money. Rooney and others are on different ends of the scale based on the relationship with their respective clubs; and with FFP in the mix, clubs aren't going to go overboard paying players while trying to balance a wage budget. So as it stands, if you're making anything >90K/week (net income), you're a top earner in my book.
Great signing for Arsenal, I'd rather they get him then the others really, if we weren't. We never seemed all that interested for whatever reason, probably he doesn't want to come since we don't have champions league football, but I'm always okay with Arsenal doing well given they're a proper football club and are good to watch. Would rather him go there, where I'll still watch him and not get pissed when he does well, rather then City, Chelsea or Liverpool.
They still need a top striker without a doubt though, or a reliable one. Mandzukic would be an excellent signing but they don't seem to interested in him. Whatever the case, I can't see them winning the title until they fix the striker situation, and probably bring in a quality defensive midfielder so they don't get bullied so often.
They still need a top striker without a doubt though, or a reliable one. Mandzukic would be an excellent signing but they don't seem to interested in him. Whatever the case, I can't see them winning the title until they fix the striker situation, and probably bring in a quality defensive midfielder so they don't get bullied so often.
We better get Angel Di Maria to make up for this.
If I am not mistaken, the reported wages in England are before taxes. Which means that Rooney's wage is 300k/week before taxes, so Rooney takes home much less than it (probably 170k or so). Also, his base wage is much lower and he reaches 300k/week only as a part of commercial deals, and he makes us more money on commercial deals than probably all other players together (maybe this is an exaggeration but for sure he makes us much more money than any other player).
All I can say it, hats off to Arsenal. Really didn't think they could pull this off but it looks incredibly likely that they will.
Wenger's pulled off a stroke and a half here.
Wenger's pulled off a stroke and a half here.
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