Alexis Sanchez | Signed for Arsenal

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There are other alternatives like Griezmann and Di Maria, provided we signed either of those losing out on Sanchez wouldn't be the end of the world. But they're big if's and but's at this point.

And we definitely need a quality midfielder to compliment Ramsey.

If we brought in: Sanchez (or equivalent), a back-up GK, Schneiderlin/Khedira/Bender and Debuchy, and bring back Campbell and I will be well pleased.
indeed. was just commenting on what the knee-jerk reactions would be if you missed out on sanchez. Fwiw, i dont think griezmann is at the same level of sanchez at this point
 
And you'll play with 2 centrebacks in your squad (assuming Vermaelen leaves). Hope one of them gets a knock and will be out for a couple of months, see if you'll be well pleased then aswell.

You are a right knobber.

Once again your own fellow fans are laughing at you. Save your time and don't quote me as I will not be reading your long-winded idiotic rambling posts.
 
No you said that you hope one of them gets injured. You weren't trying to say anything about problems. Wishing injuries on players because of some strange obsession with Arsenal.

Which is a silly thing to say.

I meant I was hoping Arsenal run into the problem of missing one of their 2 centrebacks for some time, I never meant to wish injurry upon a certain player. I just want Arsenal to face the problem of having a small bench, because if you are arrogant/stupid enough to think 2 centrebacks is enough to survive PL and CL then you deserve to run with your face onto that wall.

Jezus Christ don't you get the notion of context ?
 
I meant I was hoping Arsenal run into the problem of missing one of their 2 centrebacks for some time, I never meant to wish injurry upon a certain player. I just want Arsenal to face the problem of having a small bench, because if you are arrogant/stupid enough to think 2 centrebacks is enough to survive PL and CL then you deserve to run with your face onto that wall.

Jezus Christ don't you get the notion of context ?

Everyone can see what you wrote and I'm beginning to agree with the above poster now.
 
indeed. was just commenting on what the knee-jerk reactions would be if you missed out on sanchez. Fwiw, i dont think griezmann is at the same level of sanchez at this point

True that Greizmann isn't in the same bracket as the others mentioned so far, but he would be an attainable signing and Wenger has bigged him up all through the WC.

I won't believe the Sanchez thing until it's on the official site - but signing Ozil last season has shown that we can pull deals like these off, and I can't help myself but feel a little excited in my nether regions.

Still it won't mean much if we don't address the other areas that desperately need attention.
 
You are a right knobber.

Once again your own fellow fans are laughing at you. Save your time and don't quote me as I will not be reading your long-winded idiotic rambling posts.

Oh god drama queen...

I was just asking a question about if you don't think Arsenal should sign a back up centreback.

Why the constant personal attacks on me, first your having a laugh with me, then you call me an idiot, now a knobber, now you don't even want anything to do with me anymore. Oh sorry I expressed any sign of frustration in my previous posts about Sanchez, I'am a United fan and a human being and I can't help it.
 
That is not it my friend, I want him to rot because he choses Arsenal over us. I wouldn't too much about if he joined Chelsea, City, PSG, Bayern, Real, hell even Juventus as I could understand the logic of going to such clubs. Handsome pay, realistic posibility to win trophies, it is equal or above what we can offer at United. But a club that has proven to be consitent losers and have no realistic chance at winning anything really significant over us, that is just a slap in the face for me. He already turned us down one time, but I could understand it because it was for Barcelona, I didn't agree with it because I always belived he wouldn't be appreciated there, but that was his problem. Now that he wants to move again and we're offering him another chance to join us, he turns us down again for fecking Arsenal. I'am sorry but for me that is just pissing on our club. We're not talking about a young player that choses Arsenal for the sake of more realistic chances at playing time or for less pressure in his devlopment, we're taliking about a worldclass player that must have the ambition to win silverware. I'am not saying he has to do at United, I'am not so arrogant as to think we should be the pinnacle of football, but we have proven to be superior over Arsenal in this league and in the CL for long enough that it can't and shouldn't be considered a coincedence anymore. Now I understand we messed up last year, big time, and I would understand players like that turning Moyes down with his project, but turning LVG down who has won trucloads more than Wenger having a project a club that has won truckloads more than at Arsenal, having truckloads of money more than Arsenal and actually having the genuine intention to start spending it contrary to Arsenal, that I can not comprehend. I don't understand it, unless Sanchez hates United or something, or unless he is taking the piss out of LVG and his project to get back to the top of world football with United, in both cases, feck him and feck him good !

You take this football thing way too seriously. A player can chose whatever club he decides to be his employers and you ranting over that isn't going to change a thing. Reading most of your posts it seems like you simply don't like Arsenal Football Club and that's fine...you're entitled to that. But implying Sanchez should rot because he hasn't chosen Utd or that Arsenal isn't a big club for any top player to join is simply looking at this through red tinted glasses. Most folks reading your posts are seeing them now as rants.
 
I meant I was hoping Arsenal run into the problem of missing one of their 2 centrebacks for some time, I never meant to wish injurry upon a certain player. I just want Arsenal to face the problem of having a small bench, because if you are arrogant/stupid enough to think 2 centrebacks is enough to survive PL and CL then you deserve to run with your face onto that wall.

Jezus Christ don't you get the notion of context ?


The only person stupid enough to think that Arsenal will go into the new season with only 2 centre backs is your good self.
 
Everyone can see what you wrote and I'm beginning to agree with the above poster now.

Yea ok, if you don't want to except my explanation about my post than suit yourself...

If you can't comprehend the notion of different explanations about the same piece of text than there really sin't much to say here anymore. I have already said what I meant by those words, If you think you know my own intentions and the meaning of my words beter than me than sod off.
 
The only person stupid enough to think that Arsenal will go into the new season with only 2 centre backs is your good self.

God feck...

Did I say I was thinking they were going into the season with just 2 centrebacks ? I just asked the arsenal supporter that said he'd be happy with signing a back up GK, Sanchez and a midfielder. No centreback on the list, assuming Vermaelen leaves, they have 2 centrebacks, shouldn't there be a centreback signing ? That was my question...
 
You take this football thing way too seriously. A player can chose whatever club he decides to be his employers and you ranting over that isn't going to change a thing. Reading most of your posts it seems like you simply don't like Arsenal Football Club and that's fine...you're entitled to that. But implying Sanchez should rot because he hasn't chosen Utd or that Arsenal isn't a big club for any top player to join is simply looking at this through red tinted glasses. Most folks reading your posts are seeing them now as rants.

I don't have a problem with Arsenal football club, if people are reading that into my posts, than people should learn to read better or not draw such conclusions to fast.

I don't like losing out on Sanchez to Arsenal, that is all there is to it. It is like when you have a bud and you know you are beter than him at something and than he beats you at it, it hurts your ego and you can get frustrated by it, that doesn't mean you start hating the bud. You people make some sick twists in your head and are assuming way too much about me and my intentions. You don't know somebody and his intentions because you read one or two posts of him on an internet forum of 50 words long. So I'd be happy if we could just discuss the posts and leave everything else out of it...
 
True that Greizmann isn't in the same bracket as the others mentioned so far, but he would be an attainable signing and Wenger has bigged him up all through the WC.

I won't believe the Sanchez thing until it's on the official site - but signing Ozil last season has shown that we can pull deals like these off, and I can't help myself but feel a little excited in my nether regions.

Still it won't mean much if we don't address the other areas that desperately need attention.
well it doesn seem like you're going after a striker
 
well it doesn seem like you're going after a striker

Plenty of time left but is looking this way at present. Maybe Wenger sees Sanchez as a CF, or will move Walcott there?

.... and we still have Sanogo....
 
I don't have a problem with Arsenal football club, if people are reading that into my posts, than people should learn to read better or not draw such conclusions to fast.

I don't like losing out on Sanchez to Arsenal, that is all there is to it. It is like when you have a bud and you know you are beter than him at something and than he beats you at it, it hurts your ego and you can get frustrated by it, that doesn't mean you start hating the bud. You people make some sick twists in your head and are assuming way too much about me and my intentions. You don't know somebody and his intentions because you read one or two posts of him on an internet forum of 50 words long. So I'd be happy if we could just discuss the posts and leave everything else out of it...

But Sanchez is only one player. Ozil and Ramsey were both wanted by Utd and ended up playing for Arsenal. Most ppl i know would prefer to see Arsenal get back to the top than the other two money bags of Chelsea and City. A club has to start somewhere if they want to get back at the top and signing top players is where you need to start.
 
So Arsenal are actually getting Sanchez. Looks like Wenger has completely changed his transfer strategy. First Ozil and now Sanchez.

Also I for once don't believe, Sanchez would reject us due to 1 season of CL less football. No one can be that short sighted. Its not like we are Everton or Spurs. We are bloody Manchester United. We will be at the top.
 
Plenty of time left but is looking this way at present. Maybe Wenger sees Sanchez as a CF, or will move Walcott there?

.... and we still have Sanogo....
I'd say he will probably play Sanchez as false nine and then Walcott as CF. Whether it will work is another thing
 
So Arsenal are actually getting Sanchez. Looks like Wenger has completely changed his transfer strategy. First Ozil and now Sanchez.

Also I for once don't believe, Sanchez would reject us due to 1 season of CL less football. No one can be that short sighted. Its not like we are Everton or Spurs. We are bloody Manchester United. We will be at the top.
They were saving money and building towards this for years. Wengers plan was to have a good youth system, good scouts to pick up young talent and enough money to make the occasional and necessary big signings. Once the stadium is paid off they will be in a very comfortable and healthy position.
 
So Arsenal are actually getting Sanchez. Looks like Wenger has completely changed his transfer strategy. First Ozil and now Sanchez.

Also I for once don't believe, Sanchez would reject us due to 1 season of CL less football. No one can be that short sighted. Its not like we are Everton or Spurs. We are bloody Manchester United. We will be at the top.
How is it short-sighted though? From the fans POV, it may appear this way but for a player may be entirely different. The key is how Sanchez views this, not us
 
How is it short-sighted though? From the fans POV, it may appear this way but for a player may be entirely different. The key is how Sanchez views this, not us

Exactly. I'm not having a dig at United but it is not a given they will just waltze back into contention now that Moyes has been given the arse, and it seems like a fair few of your fellow supporters feel you will. That's fair enough, but the squad still needs rather heavy investment and the competition is much more settled at this point in time - this could and most likely will change come the end of the window however, but it all remains to be seen at this point in time.

No matter how hard the nutters like NoArroJusBeta beat their chests and pull their knobs, it's all speculation and opinion ATM.
 
How is it short-sighted though? From the fans POV, it may appear this way but for a player may be entirely different. The key is how Sanchez views this, not us

I don't know, if you were to miss out again this year it may start to have a small influence perhaps. Can't see it having that big an influence this summer thou, with Van Gaal in charge and with the money you can throw at players.
 
Exactly. I'm not having a dig at United but it is not a given they will just waltze back into contention now that Moyes has been given the arse, and it seems like a fair few of your fellow supporters feel you will. That's fair enough, but the squad still needs rather heavy investment and the competition is much more settled at this point in time - this could and most likely will change come the end of the window however, but it all remains to be seen at this point in time.

No matter how hard the nutters like NoArroJusBeta beat their chests and pull their knobs, it's all speculation and opinion ATM.

Bullshit, the same squad won the title just one season past.

Moyesification has made a lot of people to underrate our squad. We have a better goalkeeper, and a forward line than Arsenal. Fullbacks are about the same with us having the upper hand with the loss of Sagna. One more addition in center back and midfield, and we'll probably have a better squad than you guys.
 
Exactly. I'm not having a dig at United but it is not a given they will just waltze back into contention now that Moyes has been given the arse, and it seems like a fair few of your fellow supporters feel you will. That's fair enough, but the squad still needs rather heavy investment and the competition is much more settled at this point in time - this could and most likely will change come the end of the window however, but it all remains to be seen at this point in time.

No matter how hard the nutters like NoArroJusBeta beat their chests and pull their knobs, it's all speculation and opinion ATM.
yeah. it's funny. i had this exact same conversation with someone else on twitter about short-sightedness. Personally, I'd be surprised if we don't get in the top 4 but then again, not really a guarantee. The top of the league is still fluid imo due to what I see as impending changes during the transfer window. But we shall see. Should be exciting
 
I don't know, if you were to miss out again this year it may start to have a small influence perhaps. Can't see it having that big an influence this summer thou, with Van Gaal in charge and with the money you can throw at players.

Exactly, we're in real trouble if we miss out on CL next season. One season won't change much. Apart from a Catalan Radio report, nobody has said that we were even interested in him(not the reliable few journalists).
 
I don't know, if you were to miss out again this year it may start to have a small influence perhaps. Can't see it having that big an influence this summer thou, with Van Gaal in charge and with the money you can throw at players.
I think it would have a fairly significant impact in terms of the Glazers, our sponsors and the belief in moving forward. It's clear to me the Glazers aren't happy about massive investment but seem to feel it's needed for this window. I don't expect such talk of massive spending after this
 
Bullshit, the same squad won the title just one season past.

Moyesification has made a lot of people to underrate our squad. We have a better goalkeeper, and a forward line than Arsenal. Fullbacks are about the same with us having the upper hand with the loss of Sagna. One more addition in center back and midfield, and we'll probably have a better squad than you guys.
Agreed. I dont agree that we need massive investment. If anything, having a top quality coach seems to make a marginally bigger difference
 
Agreed. I dont agree that we need massive investment. If anything, having a top quality coach seems to make a marginally bigger difference

Even if some people won't count LvG as a top quality coach(due to obvious bias), they've to see that it's a big upgrade from David feckin Moyes.
 
Bullshit, the same squad won the title just one season past.

Moyesification has made a lot of people to underrate our squad. We have a better goalkeeper, and a forward line than Arsenal. Fullbacks are about the same with us having the upper hand with the loss of Sagna. One more addition in center back and midfield, and we'll probably have a better squad than you guys.

Heavy as in a couple of big name signings - a world class CM, CB (not exactly urgent mind) and a wide-player are all key additions. Neither Shaw nor Herrera are WC players, though I expect Shaw will be considered one within a few seasons.

I'm not trying to compare the squads, but as you bring it up this is my opinion on things - GK is not an issue as Szczsney had a good season and continues to improve.

Forward line is not up for debate at this point, they are leagues apart. But I'd take our collection of CM's and AM's and even our wide-players over United's at present.

I would take Koscielny over any United CB by a million miles, and his partnership with Mertesacker is superior to anything United cobbled together last season. Before you get in a tizzy over that though I believe the main issue was lack of continuity in your CB pairings last season, once a proper pairing is decided upon then things will change.
 
Heavy as in a couple of big name signings - a world class CM, CB (not exactly urgent mind) and a wide-player are all key additions. Neither Shaw nor Herrera are WC players, though I expect Shaw will be considered one within a few seasons.

I'm not trying to compare the squads, but as you bring it up this is my opinion on things - GK is not an issue as Szczsney had a good season and continues to improve.

Forward line is not up for debate at this point, they are leagues apart. But I'd take our collection of CM's and AM's and even our wide-players over United's at present.

I would take Koscielny over any United CB by a million miles, and his partnership with Mertesacker is superior to anything United cobbled together last season. Before you get in a tizzy over that though I believe the main issue was lack of continuity in your CB pairings last season, once a proper pairing is decided upon then things will change.

Vidal, decent CB and we're set for the title. We are not in Europe, so we don't particularly need a very big squad too!
 
Vidal is a game changer. And I forgot about not having European games... It will have the Liverpool effect.
 
Heavy as in a couple of big name signings - a world class CM, CB (not exactly urgent mind) and a wide-player are all key additions. Neither Shaw nor Herrera are WC players, though I expect Shaw will be considered one within a few seasons.

I'm not trying to compare the squads, but as you bring it up this is my opinion on things - GK is not an issue as Szczsney had a good season and continues to improve.

Forward line is not up for debate at this point, they are leagues apart. But I'd take our collection of CM's and AM's and even our wide-players over United's at present.

I would take Koscielny over any United CB by a million miles, and his partnership with Mertesacker is superior to anything United cobbled together last season. Before you get in a tizzy over that though I believe the main issue was lack of continuity in your CB pairings last season, once a proper pairing is decided upon then things will change.

I don't really think we need to bring 'world class' players in order to make things work to be fair. Of course, we do need another CB and CM and possibly a wide player ( although I seriously wouldn't mind giving the youngsters a chance there ) but the 'world class' thing is being overused and thrown around without any real value in it.

City brought Fernandinho in, whom nobody would call a world class midfielder when they did, and he simply fit them so perfectly well that he was one of the main reasons they won title last season ( bar the obvious bottling of Liverpool and tremendous form of Toure ). Navas wasn't world class ( and still isn't ) yet he brought something fresh to their side, which was a blistering pace on the wing. It's not really about having just world class players in your squad, it's about having various options that let you take various approaches to the game. Herrera seems to be the player we haven't had for some time now and offers something completly different to players we do have right now in the midfield. For all my love for Patrice, his legs are gone, and it's going to be fun watching a new full-back who can run for 90 minutes up and down every match, so it's a huge upgrade too.

Toss in an experienced centre-back who'll keep things together and some midfielder ( either a playmaker or a pure defensive one ) and I believe that things will start ticking. Van Gaal showed that he's got more to his tactical nous than just playing 4-4-2 and tossing on extra striker so I'm sure that he'll be able to mould something out of the players we have, rather than make an awful patchwork of inability and cowardness we've seen last season.

On topic though, I'm not too fussed about Alexis, rejected us, I don't mind, we rejected him, doesn't bother me. Priorities are central midfield and CB as stated above. He's a fantastic player but is he the cure to your wounds ? Won't he be another Ozil, who's a great player, but not necessarily the thing that you need ? Won't he stop Wenger from buying a central forward ? I guess we'll know come end of the window.
 
The European effect is massively overstated.

You'll know it this season when you'll have to come back from Russia and play the next match in the two days or so.
 
The European effect is massively overstated.

Not sure about that, the season is a long one when you're fighting on 4 fronts and have a thin squad. It got the better of us and no doubt we had since very tired legs come the end of the season.

If you have a big squad full of talent like City and Chelsea then it's not really an issue.

Liverpool were out of the cups early last season and had only the league to channel their some focus on. I don't believe your squad was big enough to handle all four fronts last season, but that's my opinion though (which seems to be shared by most).

At one point last season we had a stretch of games against Liverpool, Chelsea, City, Spuds and Bayern in between. Take out the mid-week do or die games against quality European sides and suddenly it's looking much more manageable. But when you have key CL, FA Cup and league games all-together in a two/three week period then times become quite tough.
 
Not sure about that, the season is a long one when you're fighting on 4 fronts and have a thin squad. It got the better of us and no doubt we had since very tired legs come the end of the season.

If you have a big squad full of talent like City and Chelsea then it's not really an issue.

Liverpool were out of the cups early last season and had only the league to channel their some focus on. I don't believe your squad was big enough to handle all four fronts last season, but that's my opinion though (which seems to be shared by most).

At one point last season we had a stretch of games against Liverpool, Chelsea, City, Spuds and Bayern in between. Take out the mid-week do or die games against quality European sides and suddenly it's looking much more manageable. But when you have key CL, FA Cup and league games all-together in a two/three week period then times become quite tough.

Last season, absolutely, but we had a squad of about 12 or 13 quality, reliable players. We have had squads of 15 or 16 and managed to do well enough in both competitions.

You'll know it this season when you'll have to come back from Russia and play the next match in the two days or so.

Our seeding means thats unlikely to happen. We might have one team like that in our group, but for the most part we won't have games like this. That's much more the Europa league anyway.
 
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