That would leave you with hardly any players though wouldn't it? Literally 11-12 first teamers.
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We lost out to arguably the best club side ever two times after that, and have won the league two times since. It's also likely we'll have a much better squad than you at the start of the season given the amount we've spent so far and will likely continue to. Your only true world class footballer has looked an absolute shadow of himself in recent times too.
You obviously have the benefit of having a manager there for a long time whereas ours will only be arriving in July but our likelihood of not getting top four and not improving year on year after that is very, very slim. van Gaal's a winner, no two ways about it.
Reina
Aspas
Assaidi
Coady
Toure
Kelly
--- You'd get nothing worth shouting about for any of them.
Agger and Lucas would both have to be replaced in the squad, replacements would cost more if anything.
Only 4 of them really played any part in our season last year. If we bring 7 or 8 in like it looks like we might, then we'll be fine squad wise.
Assaidi is being linked with £5-7m move to Stoke. Aspas likewise, but to Spain.
I don't think you'll have a squad big enough for the league and CL.
Man, if there are clubs ready to offer 5-7 million for useless shites like Aspas, we should demand 25m for Chicharito and 20m for Nani.
TBH Assaidi was decent-ish for Stoke from what I can remember.
Stoke are saying that's above the valuation of him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28090791
You paid 7m for Aspas and he's been a complete flop. No-one is going to give you that money back.
I was talking about Aspas. Assaidi was decent, ya but even if he goes for 7m, we too can demand same money for Young. Young was lot better at those mid-low level clubs.
Not to mention Chicharito and Nani who can still find a top club and be good there so nothing less than 20m.
I reckon we should look at closer to £30 million for that pair. Hernandez is being touted at £18 Million and Nani is worth £12 million surely
Agreed on Hernandez, but Nani's wages will bring down any valuation. If I were to compare the deals to any ot would be Buttner's transfer.
I would push for closer to 35m at least. If other clubs push us for our pressing needs, we can do same to players we are selling.
It's a simple case of £12m for Hernandez and whatever you can get for Nani. No-one's offering £15m for a player who hasn't been good since 2011 unless you try to throw him at Zenit or something.
All teams should be after Sanchez. Liverpool should take him + any cash for Suarez pretty much. I know they don't want to get 'ripped off' but getting 'value' from Suarez in cash won't pay for a replacement - there's no one else available who's close to as good.
Arsenal seem to be frontrunners though - and they should go all out for him. He can play that role in the middle, and with Ozil and Walcott either side of him there is huge potential there. He's very mobile, works hard and will interchange well with the others. There's no longer a need for a strong centre-forward anyway, if you have someone with intelligence who is mobile and has real quality. In games where a stronger target man is needed, Giroud is more than capable to come in.
If Falcao does move to Madrid and Benzema is available he'd be perfect too for a more traditional role, but I think he's staying, whatever happens.
Arsenal seem to be frontrunners though - and they should go all out for him. He can play that role in the middle, and with Ozil and Walcott either side of him there is huge potential there. He's very mobile, works hard and will interchange well with the others. There's no longer a need for a strong centre-forward anyway, if you have someone with intelligence who is mobile and has real quality. In games where a stronger target man is needed, Giroud is more than capable to come in.
If Falcao does move to Madrid and Benzema is available he'd be perfect too for a more traditional role, but I think he's staying, whatever happens.
How good is Griezmann compared to Sanchez? Seen him a few times and he's impressed me most of the time.
I don't understand the argument that it's likely you'll have a better squad than us at the start of the season. You're looking at your strikers and deciding that the rest of the team comes up to that mark. It doesn't.
The team needs a rebuild and just because you've spent big money on two young, up-and-coming players doesn't mean you'll get Vidal and Hummels with them, necessarily.
You also risk going down a Spurs route of buying loads of players in one summer and failing to integrate them at all.
Who would you guys go after, if both Sanchez and di Maria are available, and you could only afford 1?
di Maria.
We already have a better squad than you do. You also just gave away (again) the best right back in the league and haven't bought a player yet. We've brought in a very good Spanish midfielder and a talented left-back who is already performing in the league. We obviously could do with another midfielder and we definitely have to get a center back but we will do that, even if they're not Vidal or Hummels.
Keep thinking what you want to though alastair, like the deluded Arsenal fan you are, who just a few months ago was adamant that Ozil is the best #10 in the world.
Both massive upgrades on United's wingers. Sanchez more versatile and harder working IMO.
Di Maria.
Not quite sure, Sanchez is better IMO. I'd like United to try for Griezmann though. Has a €30 Million release/buyout clause I believe.
I think we could get more than £15 for Hernandez and £10-12 at push for Nani.
Griezmann is decent but he's not close to Sanchez. I'd say he's on the same level as Shaqiri, Cuadrado, Valbuena, Schurrle etc. Sanchez is world class, there aren't many players who have played as well as he has in the past year in his position.
If we're talking about delusion, I would argue that claiming a team that struggled for 7th last season is automatically better than a side that finished 15 whole points ahead of you with a much more settled and balanced squad.
It's quite amazing how so many people think that last year was just a one-off caused entirely by Moyes. It wasn't. He was only part of the problem.
Your signings so far have been a young left back with limited experience and a CM that no other top club appeared to have any interest in. It's not been overly inspiring so far but you've got time.
It was partly Moyes and partly SAF no longer being there. You know we won the league the year before, don't you? And I sort of find it pretty fecking hilarious that you dismiss the idea that last season's blunder was entirely because of Moyes yet you claim that winning the title previously was entirely because of Fergie. We're also clearly addressing the problem areas we had (midfield, defense) and seem far more likely than you lot to actually continue to spend big this summer.
Though I assume once you have your inevitably dire start to the season, Wenger will probably panic his way into signing a player or two again in the last day of the window, as usual. I bet he's delighted at how Campbell's doing, he won't have to find a £5m striker to fill the gaps now.
Although, the possibility of a magical chilean triangle including Vidal, Sanchez and Angelo Henriquez could change my mind.
Really not in the same league. Griezmann is like a wide forward who has 3 assists in 45 games this season which is a terrible record for a winger. He does his defensive job well though which in combination with being a goal-scorer isn't too bad, especially if your full-back is already supposed to provide most width for the team on that side.
Inevitably dire start to the season? We were top at Christmas last year.
I think Ferguson's grip on the league had a lot to do with it, yes. Him and RVP. I think the majority of people would look at a Cleverley/Carrick midfield with Scholes and Giggs as cover and wonder how without an unreal manager that got through a whole season unscathed.
Your arguments is all ifs. Mine is based on evidence. You've got a 15 point gap to close. Your squad almost certainly isn't as amazing as you say it is.
No point responding to such pointless WUMs.
We were top at Christmas!
Shaw has played 60+ games in the premier league, that's a good amount of experience, and we still have Evra. This whole 'other top club had no interest in' is ridiculous. Seemingly no-one wanted Matic or Fernandinho last season except their buyers either, no one wanted Fabregas, no one wanted Ozil, no one wanted Toure - it really doesn't suggest a great deal at all.
I think Herrera will be the best signing we make this summer. He's exactly what we need and he'll surprise people next season.
Pool were top at Christmas.
I was talking about the loss to Villa, clearly, seeing as I said at the end of the transfer window. I wonder if that's Wenger's problem, he, like you, thinks that the window doesn't close until Christmas? It would probably explain a lot.
I don't think our squad's amazing, just that it's better than yours, and will continue to get better and better than yours unless Wenger pulls his finger out for once. It's obviously not quite as good as City's and definitely not as good as Chelsea's is now.
Based on ifs, how exactly? You're the one saying Moyes wasn't the main problem, isn't that guesswork in itself, seeing as basically every Utd player since then has practically confirmed he was the problem? Like I said, great logic. Utd win the league = entirely based on SAF. Utd go to shit when Moyes takes over = he was only a part of the problem.
You think I'm wumming saying you'll find it difficult to get £35m for Nani and Hernandez? Christ.
I'm not convinced that we are even in for him. I expect him to end up at Arsenal either way though.
No we will struggle to get even 3.5
I don't understand where Arsenal's transfer policy of 2013 comes into this. Despite that transfer window, we still finished miles ahead of you and in the CL.
Ferguson was instrumental in you winning the league but he left Moyes a squad decaying in serious areas. That's completely undeniable. United are clearly now trying to fix it.
If Moyes was deemed by the club and players to be the main problem, it seems rather odd that United are going down the road of spending huge amounts of money to buy new players. Surely by appointing LVG, they've fixed the problem already?
Really? Griezmann has always been pretty okish when I have seen him. Certainly not a massive upgrade on our current options.
Spurs and Everton finished ahead of us too, does that mean they've better squads than us as well? You really can't use that as a basis, last year was horrible from a Utd perspective, clearly. The idea that we can possibly have another season even close to that is ridiculous.
Our squad definitely had it's problems, I'll never deny that and I said it time and time again last season, but Moyes could've easily remedied lots of those problems last summer himself, he didn't, hence now we're spending the money we didn't last year.
Your last paragraph is hilarious btw, and sort of sums up the whole Arsenal ideology I guess. I mean, why bother spending lots of money on players if you have the money at your disposal and want to make your squad better than it is? What's the point of doing that anyway? Trying to improve something? No, you're right, keep it as it is. You improved by a good few points last season so I suppose it's best not to buy players, mission accomplished and all that. Well, until you lose in your first game or two of the season miserably and go into panic mode, that is.
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