Alexis Sanchez | Signed for Arsenal

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Well, the same way one manager with an ineffective 'system' can turn champions into a shower of shit, a competent manager with a strong squad and a couple of additions can get them performing at the level they should be. I don't think it requires a miracle at all. Also, I think that our young CBs are ready to step up and prove themselves as top performers this season. They just need to be shown a little faith/patience...

We definitely underperformed, i don't at all believe that 7th is their level, however i don't think we can reasonably expect to win the league either.
 
Graham Hunter on 5 live Sport: "Alexis Sanchez will be gently told 'find the right place to go, we'd like it to be Anfield'
 
Graham Hunter on 5 live Sport: "Alexis Sanchez will be gently told 'find the right place to go, we'd like it to be Anfield'

So if Alexis doesn't fancy Anfield (which he is quite entitled to do) it'll balls up any plan Barcelona have..

My opinion he is too good a player to be used as part of any deal for another even if that is Luis Suarez.
 
Graham Hunter on 5 live Sport: "Alexis Sanchez will be gently told 'find the right place to go, we'd like it to be Anfield'

I can just see it.

"Alexis, I know you're happy here but we'd like to move you on. Now we know you can get more money elsewhere, and probably win more but you'd be doing us a real favour if you'd go to Liverpool cos we want Suarez and its nice and neat. Cheers."

I think I'd tell them where to go if it was me.
 
Graham Hunter on 5 live Sport: "Alexis Sanchez will be gently told 'find the right place to go, we'd like it to be Anfield'

Hmmm, Sanchez is not unlikeable, is he? He's also a world class player. My conclusion must be that he cannot possibly go to Liverpool. Too great a player for you lot ;)
 
So if Alexis doesn't fancy Anfield (which he is quite entitled to do) it'll balls up any plan Barcelona have..

My opinion he is too good a player to be used as part of any deal for another even if that is Luis Suarez.

Not sure it would - either they use Sanchez and money for Suarez or sell Sanchez and add that in to the bid for Suarez.

Either way Liverpool get top value.
 
Absolutely no chance he will go to Liverpool.

If we're interested I make us favourites easily.
 
I would say there's zero chance Sanchez will go anywhere but his first choice club, if he leaves.
This. He did the same the last time, by refusing City's wages (and almost 10m more that they were prepared to pay for Udinese. If Barca sells him, then he will decide where he'll go, not Barca.
 
If reports are true he will be offered to top clubs including outs. I think we would be first choice, I really do.

His mate Vidal can come too.
 
:lol:

You're not in the CL. He might go to you but you're not easily favourites by any means.

Do you really think that one season outside CL is going to make that much of a difference?
 
Do you really think that one season outside CL is going to make that much of a difference?
It does make a difference, certainly. How much of a difference is anyone's guess but of course it's a factor for some players.
 
Yes, because it's not like there's any guarantee it'll stop at one. If he knew 100% it was only one, maybe not.

There is also no 100% that Liverpool will be in it again next year.. I think some people put to much emphasis on the champions league when we all know money is also a huge factor and that we can offer in bundles.
 
Yes, because it's not like there's any guarantee it'll stop at one. If he knew 100% it was only one, maybe not.

Well with new additions and a competent manager we are more likely to be top 4 next season than not. Arguably third strongest team in England behind Chelsea and City.
He has no guarantee of future CL qualification at Liverpool or Arsenal either.
 
Well with new additions and a competent manager we are more likely to be top 4 next season than not. Arguably third strongest team in England behind Chelsea and City.
He has no guarantee of future CL qualification at Liverpool or Arsenal either.

The new additions thus far aren't going to make a huge difference to your fortunes. I imagine they're the young signings with the experienced ones to come though.

You can surely see that some players might be reticent to join a club that's just gone from 1st to 7th, out of the CL, and things are still uncertain?
 
I imagine it'll come down to money. And Van Gaal, of course :drool:
 
The mere fact that Arsenal are in London gives them the advantage.
 
The new additions thus far aren't going to make a huge difference to your fortunes. I imagine they're the young signings with the experienced ones to come though.

You can surely see that some players might be reticent to join a club that's just gone from 1st to 7th, out of the CL, and things are still uncertain?

I'm sure they know the reason for our 7th place finish.
 
I'm sure they know the reason for our 7th place finish.

A squad in decline?

I know Moyes was a disaster and the club did well to cut ties as quickly as they did, but he wasn't the only reason for the collapse. It was a team ready to self-destruct at any moment.
 
The new additions thus far aren't going to make a huge difference to your fortunes. I imagine they're the young signings with the experienced ones to come though.

You can surely see that some players might be reticent to join a club that's just gone from 1st to 7th, out of the CL, and things are still uncertain?
One addition makes a huge change. Everyone knows what happened at United last year, and the main reason behind it. He's no longer there anymore, and his replacement is a highly respected, top level manager doing well at a world cup. Players will want to play for him, and United, and purely by adding him we'll be right back challenging again.

I'm not saying we'll get Sanchez. I'm not saying we'd be his choice ahead of Arsenal or anyone else, I'm simply saying we'll be back in the mix next season, and players will know that.
 
You could argue both Liverpool and Arsenal self-destructed at vital points in the season.

You could. I'm talking about United on this occasion.

Any team with an ageing Ferdinand, Vidic and Evra alongside a midfield which hadn't been strengthened in about five seasons was always doomed. It was when, not if.
 
A squad in decline?

I know Moyes was a disaster and the club did well to cut ties as quickly as they did, but he wasn't the only reason for the collapse. It was a team ready to self-destruct at any moment.
Then I see this post and wonder why I bother making reasoned responses to you. I should just tell you to go shit in your hat and leave it at that. Anything else is a waste of finger energy.
 
One addition makes a huge change. Everyone knows what happened at United last year, and the main reason behind it. He's no longer there anymore, and his replacement is a highly respected, top level manager doing well at a world cup. Players will want to play for him, and United, and purely by adding him we'll be right back challenging again.

I'm not saying we'll get Sanchez. I'm not saying we'd be his choice ahead of Arsenal or anyone else, I'm simply saying we'll be back in the mix next season, and players will know that.

You're definitely in the mix for top four. My personal view is that basically no side can be guaranteed of anything anymore. The competition is just immensely strong. You could probably say that Chelsea and City should be the top two but there are no guarantees.

LVG is a well respected manager. He's also a guy who has a reputation for falling out with players and for leaving under a cloud. He's bound to be better than Moyes, but the 'it's only a one-season blip' argument doesn't really wash with me.
 
The mere fact that Arsenal are in London gives them the advantage.

Yeah I agree with this. I'd have Arsenal as the favourites to sign Sanchez, they have the better location and will offer more money than Liverpool will do as well.
 
You could. I'm talking about United on this occasion.

Any team with an ageing Ferdinand, Vidic and Evra alongside a midfield which hadn't been strengthened in about five seasons was always doomed. It was when, not if.

I see where your coming from, but there's no way that team wouldn't have finished in the top 4 (or at the very least challenged for it properly) under a good manager.
 
You're definitely in the mix for top four. My personal view is that basically no side can be guaranteed of anything anymore. The competition is just immensely strong. You could probably say that Chelsea and City should be the top two but there are no guarantees.

LVG is a well respected manager. He's also a guy who has a reputation for falling out with players and for leaving under a cloud. He's bound to be better than Moyes, but the 'it's only a one-season blip' argument doesn't really wash with me.
It doesn't really matter whether it washes with you or not, we don't want you to play football for us.
 
You're definitely in the mix for top four. My personal view is that basically no side can be guaranteed of anything anymore. The competition is just immensely strong. You could probably say that Chelsea and City should be the top two but there are no guarantees.

LVG is a well respected manager. He's also a guy who has a reputation for falling out with players and for leaving under a cloud. He's bound to be better than Moyes, but the 'it's only a one-season blip' argument doesn't really wash with me.

Bit like the "first trophy in 9 means will lead to lots and lots of success" doesn't wash with me.
 
The new additions thus far aren't going to make a huge difference to your fortunes. I imagine they're the young signings with the experienced ones to come though.

You can surely see that some players might be reticent to join a club that's just gone from 1st to 7th, out of the CL, and things are still uncertain?

We certainly have issues with our squad, but then again so does every team.

Fomenting paranoia in a football fan isn't a big accomplishment, the way most clubs are run is madness.

We may not be able to build the same sort of home grown team that we were so proud of under SAF but United has far too much money to start sliding downward so easily.
 
I see where your coming from, but there's no way that team wouldn't have finished in the top 4 (or at the very least challenged for it properly) under a good manager.

It probably could have got top four but the achievement of Ferguson to get that side to a league title is still something that baffles me. The contribution of RVP was immense and when he got injured last year, it was game over.
 
It probably could have got top four but the achievement of Ferguson to get that side to a league title is still something that baffles me. The contribution of RVP was immense and when he got injured last year, it was game over.
Are you not the same Alastair who asserted he wasn't really injured last year but was ducking games because he was unhappy under Moyes? Make your mind up.

He'll be happy next season, though.
 
We certainly have issues with our squad, but then again so does every team.

Fomenting paranoia in a football fan isn't a big accomplishment, the way most clubs are run is madness.

We may not be able to build the same sort of home grown team that we were so proud of under SAF but United has far too much money to start sliding downward so easily.

No-one's suggesting United are going to slide into mid-table oblivion.

The issues in your squad might take more than a year to resolve, and you'll be hoping regaining top four can be an instant part of that. I'm arguing that the competition in the league at this moment is such that no-one should be over-confident and that the mere appointment of LVG is not a guarantee at all.
 
Sanchez is a world class player but Wenger isn't known for splashing much money in one transfer window. Don't know if they wouldn't be better of with signing a world class striker and signing a good prospect on the wings like Depay.

Don't know why Arsenal still gets so much disrespect after last season. Look what the Carling Cup 2006 did for us and our players. They have a great core to build around and I wouldn't be suprised if Ramsey wins player of the year next season. Guy was on a total different level in midfield before his injury.
 
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