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Kag said:
For me, Rooney sticks out like a sore thumb in that list. He's too good to be a rotational option yet he isn't better than Mata, Van Persie, Sanchez or Januzaj in their respective roles. Even Welbeck is a better wide forward. For the others, I think we could balance some good game time in there, but Rooney would be expendable otherwise I suspect we would upset the balance.
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I agree. I'd rather have Mata at 10, RVP up top, or Sanchez/Welbeck/Januzaj on the wings.

The problem is when we have injuries. Rooney is the next best option in virtually all those positions. And if we shipped him, I wouldn't be overly comfortable as having Welbeck as our lead man should RVP have an issue. Naturally therefore I don't think we can sell him, but it puts us in square one. I have more faith in LVG to handle it though than Moyes.
 
bosnian_red said:
Would we still be able to sign a different defensive mid? I think I might be one of the few who would go for Sanchez...

Both are world class players IMO, but looking at our starting options, Herrera-carrick > any combination of Valencia! young, nani, januzaj, welbeck, kagawa out wide. Januzaj obviously has potential but not there yet, nani is always injured, kagawa/welbeck not a winger and the rest just plain average at best.
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I agree with the logic but I'm such a massive admirer of Vidal that it's so hard for me to say Sanchez. Also, the other factor is LVG can get the best of our non-winger inside forwards such as Kagawa and Mata and Januzaj potentially. It would mean the end of playing with traditional wingers but so be it.

Also if we picked up Vidal our central midfield would probably go from being the worst compared to all the top teams to potentially the best. And the technical quality we would have could really mean we don't need a traditional winger.
 
bosnian_red said:
Would we still be able to sign a different defensive mid? I think I might be one of the few who would go for Sanchez...

Both are world class players IMO, but looking at our starting options, Herrera-carrick > any combination of Valencia! young, nani, januzaj, welbeck, kagawa out wide. Januzaj obviously has potential but not there yet, nani is always injured, kagawa/welbeck not a winger and the rest just plain average at best.
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Further to my post above we could have a diamond, RVP Rooney up top, mata on the tip, Vidal and Herrera in the middle, and Carrick deep. There is enough versatility there IMO. And should we need width, Rafael and Shaw can provide it and our midfield has amount energy to cope.
 
NMF said:
If we could only sign one of Vidal or Sanchez who would people choose?
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Easily Vidal. We finally have a chance to bring in the quality we've been lacking for so long to our midfield, it would be a hard choice to go another season without that just to snap up Sanchez. I love Sanchez and even though our wing-play has seriously declined and I really wanted him before he moved to Barcelona, if there is a chance to sign Vidal it has to be taken.
 
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Besides, next year Reus will be available. A chance to sign someone of Vidal's level is not something that comes easily.
 
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Yesterday was the first time I have seen Vidal play. Based on yesterday, is he worth 40m? Was that a normal performance for him? good one? bad? Damn that was a good match to watch.
 
rpitroda said:
I agree with the logic but I'm such a massive admirer of Vidal that it's so hard for me to say Sanchez. Also, the other factor is LVG can get the best of our non-winger inside forwards such as Kagawa and Mata and Januzaj potentially. It would mean the end of playing with traditional wingers but so be it.

Also if we picked up Vidal our central midfield would probably go from being the worst compared to all the top teams to potentially the best. And the technical quality we would have could really mean we don't need a traditional winger.
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Yeah it's a tough choice, and Vidal is a dream midfield signing, but Sanchez is equally a dream winger signing IMO. It'd be great either way, but bringing in an exciting, creative winger like Sanchez would just bring so much more pace and excitement and directness to our attack and would fit in perfectly with Herrera and mata behind him.

Imagine if we got both though :drool:

Edit: If this was before Herrera signed, it'd be and easy choice, Vidal. But now that we finally signed some quality in the middle, it's not as vital as it once was (but still really needed). Also if we don't sign Vidal I think we'll almost definitely sign strootman in January... So it's sort of a situation like this. Sign Sanchez now, and strootman in January, but miss out on Vidal; or sign Vidal but miss out on Sanchez while he goes to arse/Liverpool and then we go for depay or somebody else who is just a promising youngster.
 
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Hectic said:
Easily Vidal. We finally have a chance to bring in the quality we've been lacking for so long to our midfield, it would be a hard choice to go another season without that just to snap up Sanchez. I love Sanchez and even though our wing-play has seriously declined and I really wanted him before he moved to Barcelona, if there is a chance to sign Vidal it has to be taken.
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Agree. We can't pass up a player of Vidal's quality. There are a lot of wide players either current or youngsters we can try next summer like Reus, Depay, Griezmann ect....and we should be back in the Champions League as well.
 
jaimoe said:
Yesterday was the first time I have seen Vidal play. Based on yesterday, is he worth 40m? Was that a normal performance for him? good one? bad? Damn that was a good match to watch.
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He's nowhere close to full fitness, think he had knee surgery a month ago or something, also had an Achilles injury recently. Nowhere near his best, he was visibly knackered pretty early on, normally his stamina is amazing. Anyways, he played almost like a forward yesterday, but he's a box to box midfielder so it's hard to judge. Gave his all though.
 
It's looking increasingly likely we will not be getting Sanchez...Unfortunately.
 
NMF said:
Agree. We can't pass up a player of Vidal's quality. There are a lot of wide players either current or youngsters we can try next summer like Reus, Depay, Griezmann ect....and we should be back in the Champions League as well.
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Yeah, there are decent alternatives to Sanchez - some may not have his potential - but then very few midfielders, if any, are available right now with the proven quality Vidal has. I have some faith in Van Gaal to work with our current wingers if needed too - although I still hope he buys - and bring them back to something close to the level they used to be. Valencia and Nani can definitely improve under Van Gaal, or at least shouldn't be as poor as last season. If he can't, then we can at least make do with the players who can play there....Nani, Valencia, Januzaj, Young, Kagawa, Welbeck....It's not ideal at all, but I have more confidence to work with those positions and players, then the midfield and what we have there.
 
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Definitely Vidal, along with Yaya he's the best all round midfielder in the world and there just isn't many players of that ability around. We could go after Sanchez/Reus/Rodriguez and all 3 would be quality.
 
I think if we really wanted Sanchez, we could get him over the like of Arsenal, Liverpool or even Man City with their FFP situation.Chelsea is probably the only english club that could match us fininacially but they arn't interested appartantly, they have plenty options out wide especially if both Oscar and Hazard stay.

It seems we are not interested though.The only reason I can come as to why not is that Van Gaal wants to play Rooney, Mata and Januzaj in the same team.Not sure how that would work but if anyone can figure it out it's him.Or we have limited funds and are prioritising a CM and CB but if we have 30M to spend on a 18 year old left back that suggest that we have quite a lot of money to spend.
 
bosnian_red said:
He's nowhere close to full fitness, think he had knee surgery a month ago or something, also had an Achilles injury recently. Nowhere near his best, he was visibly knackered pretty early on, normally his stamina is amazing. Anyways, he played almost like a forward yesterday, but he's a box to box midfielder so it's hard to judge. Gave his all though.
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That's right, he had knee surgery in the last month iirc.Cannot possibly be at full fitness, so quite amazing to see such a high level of performance from him in such demanding conditions. Vidal is the best option about for us in my view. I really don't care what the Glazers have to spend to get the right players, so his price isn't an issue for me. You get what you pay for, and someone of Vidal's quality won't be cheap, but he would improve us dramatically.

Have to agree with Hectic, i absolutely love Sanchez, what a player! But for our needs, a choice between the 2 is a no brainer. Vidal would give us so much more of what we lack, while Sanchez would simply top up our already impressive stock of top quality attacking talent. Buying them both would be a muppets dream come true though! :drool:
 
NMF said:
If we could only sign one of Vidal or Sanchez who would people choose?
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Vidal, he would greatly improve us where as Sanchez would just improve us. A good midfield is essential especially at top flight football and Herrera+Vidal in the center with Carrick as back up would bring us from the worst midfield in the top 5 clubs to potential the best.
 
jaimoe said:
Yesterday was the first time I have seen Vidal play. Based on yesterday, is he worth 40m? Was that a normal performance for him? good one? bad? Damn that was a good match to watch.
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He's come back from knee surgery, nowhere near fully fit.

If I had to pick between Vidal and Sanchez? tough call, but I'd pick Sanchez.. it is rare that a winger can control a game such is his ability to run with the ball, Sanchez is one of them.
 
Raees said:
He's come back from knee surgery, nowhere near fully fit.

If I had to pick between Vidal and Sanchez? tough call, but I'd pick Sanchez.. it is rare that a winger can control a game such is his ability to run with the ball, Sanchez is one of them.
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He impressed me a lot, could go full titlt and stop on a dime without losing possession. Maybe both ?
 
bosnian_red said:
Would we still be able to sign a different defensive mid? I think I might be one of the few who would go for Sanchez...

Both are world class players IMO, but looking at our starting options, Herrera-carrick > any combination of Valencia! young, nani, januzaj, welbeck, kagawa out wide. Januzaj obviously has potential but not there yet, nani is always injured, kagawa/welbeck not a winger and the rest just plain average at best.
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Imagine this lineup
DDG
rafeal jones smalling shaw/evra
herrera vidal
sanchez mata janazaj
RVP

we FM muppets can always dream haha
 
JohnDoe said:
No-brainer. As good as Sanchez is, Vidal is a fecking beast of a player. I'd be over the moon if we got him.
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We need another midfielder more than we need a winger and we definitely need Vidal's quality more than we need Sanchez's.
 
Hectic said:
Easily Vidal. We finally have a chance to bring in the quality we've been lacking for so long to our midfield, it would be a hard choice to go another season without that just to snap up Sanchez. I love Sanchez and even though our wing-play has seriously declined and I really wanted him before he moved to Barcelona, if there is a chance to sign Vidal it has to be taken.
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Sanchez for me would have a bigger impact although a midfielder is needed we have a few who could do the job until we sign Strootman I guess.
 
Lawman said:
Sanchez for me would have a bigger impact although a midfielder is needed we have a few who could do the job until we sign Strootman I guess.
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If Van Gaal is really planning on going after Strootman, then obviously Alexis would be the good choice now.
 
Raoul said:
If Van Gaal is really planning on going after Strootman, then obviously Alexis would be the good choice now.
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Yep I agree I'd love Sanchez Raoul, Vidal looks good but Sanchez is special and would run defenders ragged something we sorely miss (you just have to look at how much people want Nani in the team despite form up and down) Sanchez is a different level to Nani and right now better than Hazzard. Would be a sensational addition to us.
 
Lawman said:
Yep I agree I'd love Sanchez Raoul, Vidal looks good but Sanchez is special and would run defenders ragged something we sorely miss (you just have to look at how much people want Nani in the team despite form up and down) Sanchez is a different level to Nani and right now better than Hazzard. Would be a sensational addition to us.
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Trouble is, we would have to change formations or something, as I can't see any viable way to fit Rooney, RvP, Mata, Sanchez, Herrera, and Carrick into a formation that A) Van Gaal prefers and B) plays to the strengths of each of the aforementioned players.
 
Raoul said:
Trouble is, we would have to change formations or something, as I can't see any viable way to fit Rooney, RvP, Mata, Sanchez, Herrera, and Carrick into a formation that A) Van Gaal prefers and B) plays to the strengths of each of the aforementioned players.
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Which once again comes down to Rooney not seeming to fit in anywhere.

Carrick Herrera
Mata
Sanchez Januzaj
RvP
 
One of Rooney and Mata won't be a regular starter if we get Sanches, particularly in the big games.
 
Treble said:
One of Rooney and Mata won't be a regular starter if we get Sanches, particularly in the big games.
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That's actually nothing to worry about. Time to show Rooney what is like to taste some serious world class competition inside the team.

It will be for his good. Trust me.
 
Only solution is Rooney in midfield and, while not ideal, he could easily be better than Carrick if the latter keeps up his lack of form from last season. Then again, we probably haven't bought our last CM this window.
 
Globule said:
Which once again comes down to Rooney not seeming to fit in anywhere.

Carrick Herrera
Mata
Sanchez Januzaj
RvP
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I keep forgetting about Januzaj, which leads me to think Sanchez will be less likely...unless of course, as you say, moving Rooney is an option.
 
I'd imagine if absolutely everyone is fit (a rarity), it'd be Mata wide, Rooney behind RVP and space for a pacy option out wide. Sanchez is perfect for that.
 
bosnian_red said:
Would we still be able to sign a different defensive mid? I think I might be one of the few who would go for Sanchez...

Both are world class players IMO, but looking at our starting options, Herrera-carrick > any combination of Valencia! young, nani, januzaj, welbeck, kagawa out wide. Januzaj obviously has potential but not there yet, nani is always injured, kagawa/welbeck not a winger and the rest just plain average at best.
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But if you look at realistically. There are more players at Sanchez's level than there is Vidal's and for that reason alone you have to go with Vidal.
 
Mainoldo said:
But if you look at realistically. There are more players at Sanchez's level than there is Vidal's and for that reason alone you have to go with Vidal.
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Exactly, it's a no brainer for me. Vidal everytime. I still think Januzaj should be used as an impact sub in the big games. So there would be room for Rooney/Sanchez just Rooney would need to play wide left.
 
It's a frustrating situation to be in. Rooney is just one of them players that wont be sold, and to be honest, I don't really want to see him leave, the problem is:

Striker: RVP is better
#10: Mata is better
Out wide: Sanchez is better
 
KingMinger22 said:
Why? Anything solid to support this?
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To be honest nothing solid but there are more and more reports saying Liverpool will get him in some sort of a Suarez deal with Barca. Also City seem to be linked and Pellegrini being from Chile might persuade him. I'm hoping we get him but I can't see us getting him to be honest.
 
Silverman said:
To be honest nothing solid but there are more and more reports saying Liverpool will get him in some sort of a Suarez deal with Barca. Also City seem to be linked and Pellegrini being from Chile might persuade him. I'm hoping we get him but I can't see us getting him to be honest.
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That would be the suggestion, but I cannot see why he would want to go to Liverpool.
 
Treble said:
One of Rooney and Mata won't be a regular starter if we get Sanches, particularly in the big games.
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Is that a bad thing? Having a RVP Mata or Rooney coming of the bench to change things?
 
Igor Drefljak said:
It's a frustrating situation to be in. Rooney is just one of them players that wont be sold, and to be honest, I don't really want to see him leave, the problem is:

Striker: RVP is better
#10: Mata is better
Out wide: Sanchez is better
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Debatable
 
Fergie's Man said:
That would be the suggestion, but I cannot see why he would want to go to Liverpool.
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Latest murmurings from Spain is he doesn't want to go to Liverpool and has ruled himself out of moving there.
 
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