De Gea, Shaw/Mendy, Rojo, Bailly, Valencia, Pogba, Fabinho, Herrera, Martial/Perisic, Lacazette, Mkhi would make a really good team. Lacazette has very good understanding of the game, outpaces most defenders, great shot and finish on him, very technically gifted, excellent link up play. A level below Aguero/Tevez but a bit similar style, still potential to develop. Would prefer him above Lukaku.
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Morata suits Jose's favoured striker type than this guy. I'd hope Jose is intending to tweak his usual style though because I rate Lacazette
Maybe, just maybe Jose is set to tweak his another part of his favoured coaching style like he did at Chelsea. I mean, before his second spell, Jose would never have employed a player as attack minded and oriented as Fabregas as one of the two holders in his preffed 4-2-3-1/4-2-1-3 formation. Maybe now he feels he can shift from using a proper target man like Zlatan to a more mobile, pace oriented forward with OK hold up play and strength, for more mobility up top. That would make any interest in Lacazette make sense. I hope its the case because Personally I rate Lacazette as a player
Either him or Morata would be the best value. While Morata is a more Mourinho style striker, I think Lacazette is the better striker.
Also I would rather get Lacazette and throw the extra money at Sanchez or Griezmann to make that move happen. Rather than prying Lukaku for silly amounts of money from Everton.
Also I would rather get Lacazette and throw the extra money at Sanchez or Griezmann to make that move happen. Rather than prying Lukaku for silly amounts of money from Everton.
Lacazette's scoring numbers are very inflated by penalties as Lyon gets a lot of them and he takes them all. Take away penalties and he has scored 18 in 30 matches, 19 in 34 matches, and 18 in 33 matches in Ligue 1 the last three years.
Not bad put tons of fairly crap strikers have had similar non-penalty scoring records in Ligue 1 in recent years. Bafetimbi Gomis just scored 17 non-penalty goals in 31 matches in Ligue 1 this year. Go back further and you have players like Gignac, Giroud, etc with similar scoring records, often doing it with weaker supporting talent than Lacazette has at Lyon.
Preferring Lacazette over Lukaku or Morata is total madness. If buying a cheaper Lacazette is the only way you can also afford a very expensive wide forward like Bale, then it makes sense. But straight up it makes no sense.
Not bad put tons of fairly crap strikers have had similar non-penalty scoring records in Ligue 1 in recent years. Bafetimbi Gomis just scored 17 non-penalty goals in 31 matches in Ligue 1 this year. Go back further and you have players like Gignac, Giroud, etc with similar scoring records, often doing it with weaker supporting talent than Lacazette has at Lyon.
Preferring Lacazette over Lukaku or Morata is total madness. If buying a cheaper Lacazette is the only way you can also afford a very expensive wide forward like Bale, then it makes sense. But straight up it makes no sense.
I tend to agree with this. Lacazette would be a gamble (perhaps calculated risk is a better description), in my opinion. The younger and Premier League proven Lukaku would be a much safer bet, albeit a more expensive one.
This guy offers a lot more than just goals. Good first touch, technique, clever build up, quick one twos are all part of his game. This guy looks like the real deal compared to players like Gomes and Gignac.
If we sign him, we'll have a more fluid attack with players interchanging positions. Our whole game play won't be based on lumping it to our big striker. He is also the only player we can sign at a reasonable price. Lukaku and Belotti will cost atleast 70m pounds. Morata is moving to Italy. Aubameyang to PSG. Who else is left?
Lacazette I actually like alot. Reminds me of Saha in that he is selfless mobile techically very good. Wouldn't mind him - prefer him to Lukaku tbh.
Think a lot of people are getting to hung up on this big target man type idea. Molito was a poacher and Benzema is no target man yet both were extremely effective under Mourinho. If he wants Lacazette (and I rate him too) then it's because he thinks he can score goals - not because he's looking for a target man. Mourinho more flexible on systems than someone like Guardiola.
So Lacazette was first choice target for Atletico Madrid, wanted by Dortmund, Arsenal and Liverpool but some ManUtd fans think he isn't all that? Maybe the bar is so high it's nearly impossible?
Actually from all the players we are now likely to get, I would like Lacazette the most - at the quoted price of €50-60m.
Before spending a similar amount of money for someone like Perisic or nearly double that for Lukaku/Belotti I would love him here. He is a great player and was Atléti's No. one target.
So let's sign him up and swap him + a few quid for Griezmann next summer - if it doesn't work out with us.
Before spending a similar amount of money for someone like Perisic or nearly double that for Lukaku/Belotti I would love him here. He is a great player and was Atléti's No. one target.
So let's sign him up and swap him + a few quid for Griezmann next summer - if it doesn't work out with us.
Agreed. I might be completely wrong but I think we have agreed in principle everything with AG and Madrid, but rather than spend huge cash amounts there first we are securing another attacker then going back to complete the AG transfer. Just a hunch. I think Lacazette would be a great signing too, always been impressed watching him. Even better, the two of them would be
Belotti very much, Lukaku also, so is morata. Lukaku was bought by him, Morata was given debut by him, Belotti is a Mourinho type forward.
I dont mind lacazette, i think he will be cheaper than above options and we can make a good deal for a good player but the way we play is not suited to him. he will rarely get on end of crosses like zlatan does, he will also not win many headers and although he is strong physically, it is more difficult in EPL like we have always seen. He is more a rashford,a martial than a diego costa or drogba.
I really do like Lacazette!
He has many dimensions to his game and is not just an more or less stand still No. 9 who waits for his chances. He can create chances for himself and other, he's a proven goal scorer + he clearly has the physics to thrive in the PL (quick and strong). Seeing him up-front with Martial/Rashford/Mkhi could give us a variable front line with lots of speed - kind of what we were used to have with Ronnie, Wazza and Tevez back then (even though the lads are (yet) nowhere near the level of the magic three from the past who all were worl-class players in their prime at the same time).
He has many dimensions to his game and is not just an more or less stand still No. 9 who waits for his chances. He can create chances for himself and other, he's a proven goal scorer + he clearly has the physics to thrive in the PL (quick and strong). Seeing him up-front with Martial/Rashford/Mkhi could give us a variable front line with lots of speed - kind of what we were used to have with Ronnie, Wazza and Tevez back then (even though the lads are (yet) nowhere near the level of the magic three from the past who all were worl-class players in their prime at the same time).
Lukaku's hold up play isn't great, if Drogba is Jose type player then Lukaku is exactly opposite of Drogba.
Also Jose didn't sign Lukaku, he sold him though but that was for different reason. Jose won 2 CLs and 2 Europa leagues, both times he didn't play big strong striker.
Thank you for clarifying this for me,
Whenever I have seen him play I was always very unimpressed with his technique and decisionmaking but when looking at his stats the goals scored are increadible and suggest worldclass striker. Obviously if most of them are penalty goals that explains alot.
I don't want this guy, he'll struggle at the PL, he is a complete misfit for Mourinho's system, his numbers are inflated by penalties which he definatley won't get here at United (we never get penalties). This is prototype signing that will not improve the quality of our play and his numbers would simple vaporize when playing for us.
Rashford has loads more quality than this guy
'Very inflated,' yet he still scores easily more than 1 in 2 in a defensive league and some of that time was not playing as a striker. Are you sure you're arguing against the idea of signing him?
I thought he's bigger, for some reason. He's as tall as Griezmann, in fact.
The French Defoe?
The French Defoe?
I won't argue about Lacazette as I don't think I have ever seen him play but if Rashford has loads more quality than Lacazette, he surely must be close to Bendtner? Rashford didn't impress me playing as #9 at all and he is not a goalscorer (at least not yet...) so surely any decent striker is an upgrade to what we have now?
I was pretty impressed by this. A lot of penalties, as @Powderfinger said, but the outfield goals had great variety to them. From this video alone, he seems to be pretty explosive around the box, position himself well and as I said, can score in a number of different ways. He looked like an instinctive goalscorer, and very direct.
Being him in. Hopefully in the new year we'll also get Zlatan back, so two very different strikers there. And if Rashford is going to be as good as hoped/expected eventually he'll displace Lacazette as first choice.
Much rather this then dropping 70M on Lukaku who we'll be stuck with for years.
Much rather this then dropping 70M on Lukaku who we'll be stuck with for years.
Rashford oozes quality, has impressed me alot as a 9, he just still very raw and needs to work on things like his decisionmaking which will automatically improve with more experience. He is not in the same class as Mbappe who has all the assets of a worldclass striker already at age 18 but Rashford certainly looks like he can develop in a worldclass striker aswell but he isn't a finished article yet which is fine at age 19.
I look at Lacazette age 26, never transitioned beyond the level of Lyon, if you take the penalties away his stats don't look impressive at all, not worth spending any money him at all. We can not count on Rashford to carry us in attack (yet) but we should not be looking at the likes of a fraud like Lacazette to do so either.
Hold up, Milito was was excellent at hold up play as is Benzema. Just like all the other forwards who have played as first choice under Mourinho. It didn't matter whether they had poacher instinct like McCarthy and Milito, were warriors like Drogba and Costa, or all rounders like Derlei and Benzema. Its very incorrect to imagine Mourinho merely targets strikers for their goal scoring. Mourinho likes well rounded forwards. Players whose knack for goal getting is marched by their ability to lead the line by bringing others into play.
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My thoughts too. He may not have RvN level goal scoring feats but if he can contribute more thna just goals to the team, it would make the team functions well and better than just a team catering to one players' needs.
It would be a risk like any other transfers, but he is proven and probably eager to prove himself in a better team and league, and to move to the next level of his evolution as a player.
Would 10000000% be more excited about getting Lukaku. Lacazette just doesn't look like someone who could lead the line by himself. My ultimate muppet dream is Kane but that's not happening.
Those fans would want us to sign an unproven 18 year old boy for 150 million rather than sign someone more experienced.
Never seen him play more than once. What's he like? I don't understand the hype.
He's a very good player just probably estimated 10/15mill more than he's worth. He brings more than goals, solid all round game too but Lyon want something like 60 million no?
This. I am really impressed by Mbappe, however, it was his break-through season and he needs to prove that he can deliver constantly. Martial had an amazing break-through season as well in much stronger league + in a team which was/is in a transforming process and was not attacking minded at all under LvG.
Monaco had a miracle season and scores loads of goals. Mbappe had a great impact (both in Lique 1 and CL) but he's still 18 years old and proving such a season & showing consistency is much harder - just ask Martial etc. for that. Lacazette on the other hand is a player lots of clubs are following and pursuig for years and he's managed to prove his records for three years now.
People are crying for a proven & consistent goal scorer, however, simultaneously want to spend 110+ on n 18 year old who's played his first season.
Urgh are we suddenly Liverpool/Arsenal?
Perisic, Lacazette, Keane words cannot describe how underwhelming this summer would be if those were our buys
Perisic, Lacazette, Keane words cannot describe how underwhelming this summer would be if those were our buys
He's worth €60m imo considering the drought in top quality strikers in the market.
I would rate him similarly to Aubameyang to be honest, and almost 2 years younger.
how is lacazette a fraud?
Half his goals are penalties, if you look at the outfield goals numbers people would not be labelling him as such a goalscoring machine. Hence his reputation is a bit false.
18 goals in 30 is still a good number.
25 in 37 in a much tougher league is even more impressive.
you're assuming his reputation was built off of one season and goal record strictly. he is a very good footballer.
Ligue 1 is a pretty defensive league. And I think Lacazette has better all around play than someone like Lukaku.
It might be a defensive league in the way teams set up but you can't tell me that Ligue 1 defenders are harder to play/score against than the ones in the Premier League.
The hype is not as high as it was a couple of years ago to be fair
This is what people are missing and they are also looking at these 'underwhelming targets in isolation. If people watched us last season they could reasonably conclude that we missed another goal scorer to help Zlatan and we could also do with a creative player whist the likes of Martial and Rashford has below par seasons which most would put down to inconsistency of youth. Isn't it possible that Mourinho decided that rather than spening the best part of hundred million on one player we'd be better off signing the striker to replace Zlatan and another creative option to help with the quality of chances the team creates? Lacazette has proven his consistency by scoring 20 plus goals in each of the last 2 to 3 seasons, Perisic gives us width and pace and both could be gotten for fees around 100m pounds leaving us with another 100m to spend on James and/or defensive reinforcements. If we get Lacazette, Perisic, James and Fabinho we would have a stronger and deeper squad than if we were to spend 200m on Griezmann, Perisic, James and Fabinho because if we pulled it off we'd have a potential 30 goals a season striker and five (Perisic, James, Martial, Mkhitaryan, Rashford) potential 10 - 20 goals a season attackers whilst having freed up our best player to play in advanced positions.
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