We are not in a bad financial position. The stadium debts are going very quickly, and we're under no financial obligation to sell players. The board, if they sell Song, will be doing it out of choice.
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We are not in a bad financial position. The stadium debts are going very quickly, and we're under no financial obligation to sell players. The board, if they sell Song, will be doing it out of choice.
Wenger has the final say on transfers according to Pete.
Wenger will make that call not the board.
I'm not saying you are. My underlying point is that as long as your team is good enough for the top four (which must be pretty tough to take as a fan), then you're fine. To challenge for the title would require major investment, which could put your financial situation in jeopardy. It seems the board want to reduce one big overhead before spending big on another (transfers).
Of course it equates to ownership, you pay plenty of money to buy that player and give him a contract that he signs.
After unsettling a number of players through your players talking openly about how they should join Barcelona you are the last club on Earth that should speak about ethics in football.
Can you really be sure about that? I can't really believe that Song leaving would be Wenger's decision when he was so good for us last season. Why would you sell one of your best players with 3 years left on his deal, who only said the other day that he'd be happy to stay?
Two years ago it wouldn't have taken major investment. We had Cesc, RVP, Nasri etc. If we'd invested £30m on Cazorla, Arteta and a back up CB in 2010, we'd have made a serious challenge.
If Wenger doesn't have the final say on transfers there's no point in him being there.
Song has 2 years left on his contract.
He clearly wants out and I think Wenger will let him go.
Thing is, Fabregas desperately wanted to go. Not because he hated Arsenal, but loved Barcelona. It was inevitable, completely unavoidable. And once he went, the ball was rolling.
This is where the euphemism over slavery comes up in sports...It's still a rental as evidenced every year all over the globe in professional sports
If players become unsettled because a reporter asks another player what it would be like to play with the aforementioned player, then everyone unsettles Messi...Yet, he doesn't seem to be going anywhere
I can take Fabregas, because he was our Ronaldo. Both were inevitably going to leave, and it doesn't have to set off a theme. We allowed it to.
Song has 3 years on his contract, I think his attitude has left a lot to be desired and I think Wenger wants a different approach to our midfield. Song isn't forcing the move here, looks more like he is being given a nudge out of the door.
I think it is more Wenger clearing the decks this summer and getting rid and in a way starting afresh.
This transfer window hasn't closed yet....
I do have my issues with the board but I think this summer we have seen a big change from the club as well as the manager. Being proactive in having Giroud, Podolski & Carzola signed before anyone was sold. This time last summer we had lost Fabregas, on the verge of losing Nasri and had only signed Gervinho. We are pushing hard for Sahin and there might even be another addition to the squad.
Two years ago our financial situation was different to now, a lot of our flats hadn't been sold whereas recently we have just sold the Queensland road site for around £26mill so it helps. I do agree that in the past years we have let ourselves down but I think this summer the club has handled things a lot better.
Hmmm... Sounds as though "forcing the move" is exactly what he's doing.
The theme was there long before Fabregas left, senior players were shipped out one after another, sure, their best days were behind most of them, but they were primarily sold to balance the books.
Young players at Utd had the like of Giggs, Scholes, Neville, VsD to look up to, now replaced by Rio, Evra, and, well, Giggs and Scholes... if you were a young player at Arsenal who would you be looking up to? Whose left there thats had any level of success with them? If you doubt the impact that sort of things had, look at the morale boost Henry coming back last year gave the squad.
In what way?
Is there no end to the exodus? Fabregas, Adebayor, Clichy, Nasri, RvP, Song .... my money's on Walcott next up for jumping into the lifeboat.
Is this part of the 5 year plan then? No?
The thing for Arsenal is that if Song goes that's pretty much a guarantee they won't be in the title hunt (though I'm sure some people think they weren't in the hunt anyway). I can understand the frustration of the Arsenal fans; it's only a transitional period if there's something at the end and you aren't just maintaining the status quo. Without them winning the title it's hard to see how they break that cycle of players being tempted away.
Simple. Show some ambition with who you sign. Dont sign Cazorla and then sell Song. Cazorla was a big coup for them in their current situation where they cant go for the top tier players, but its just being undone. If instead of selling Song, they go out and sign another player on Cazorla's level Song will be more likely to stay a season and see how it goes.
What are the chances we could persuade Van Persie to help us persuade Song, offer 18-20m and SAF have another reluctant chat with Wenger 
Seriously, I would love that
Seriously, I would love that
Song's got Barcafever (and a cnut of an agent called Darren Dein).
I think Walcott isn't even good enough for them, he'll be easily replaced. Vermaelen and Koscielny, on the other hand...
Exactly. They have to buck the trend and prove to their players that they are ambitious. It's only fair. These guys want to win things in their career and want to be at a club which shares their ambitions.
Yep, we've fallen such a long way. Still better than you lot thou
According to the Arsenal ITK. Song is off to Barcelona. He has left the club.
Lee Dixon just tweeted "song gone"
Holy shit. Arsenal just sold the guy who scored all their goals and the guy who set most of them up for him. Madness.
Wow. Bad move for both club and player, I think.
Major rebuilding again.
If he goes, then
Song and RvP gone .. Giroud, Podolski, Cazorla in.
Is that stronger or weaker?
Surely Wenger will add more to that.
If he goes, then
Song and RvP gone .. Giroud, Podolski, Cazorla in.
Is that stronger or weaker?
Surely Wenger will add more to that.
Losing Rvp and Song and replacing with poss Sahin, Cazorla Giroud and Podolski Arsenal are arguably stronger.
Yeah but only if you play with 13 players rather than 11.
Will be funny to see the Arsenal fans retract on the comments. I'm looking forward to see how Song is a limited player now.
Will be funny to see the Arsenal fans retract on the comments. I'm looking forward to see how Song is a limited player now.
Because four players is better than two?
Yes, losing the Player of the Year and your best midfielder makes your team stronger.
feck omarlogic, there's a new kid in town, Commalogic!
Top work, Arsenal.
I'd like to see how we react to this. 'Oh yes, the money's been reinvested because Diaby's like a new signing and Coquelin will have pushed on.'
I'd like to see how we react to this. 'Oh yes, the money's been reinvested because Diaby's like a new signing and Coquelin will have pushed on.'
So they take 5 steps forwards and 10 steps back.
Maybe they'll finally replace him with a DM that can actually defend.