Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain

Pogue Mahone said:
Nope.

Although according to our resident miracle retard, deciding that the 50% higher salary on offer might have influenced him is "wrong"

Go figure.
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If you're being paid 100k a week, and you're offered 200k a week, that's a big difference.

Ramsey was not offered 50% more. He was offered 20% more. 10 grand compared to 8 grand. Get your facts right. It's hardly going to make a massive difference on your decision.
 
Ramsey pre-injury was a fantastic talent, he was ahead of Wilshere in his development and already close to nailing a spot in the first team.. his loss has been Wilshere's gain and I hope the welshman comes back just as good, as he is a special potentially very complete midfield player.
 
alastair said:
If you're being paid 100k a week, and you're offered 200k a week, that's a big difference.

Ramsey was not offered 50% more. He was offered 20% more. 10 grand compared to 8 grand. Get your facts right. It's hardly going to make a massive difference on your decision.
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That's 25%.

Get your maths right...
 
alastair said:
Yes, the reasons are clear. We're not hugely inferior to you(play CL etc) and he thought he'd play more and earlier at Arsenal. It's a no-brainer really - I'd have chosen Arsenal.
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How do you know what he is payed at Arsenal?

How do you know how much United offered?

How do you know how much he'd played at United?

You have been inferior to United since the day he signed, and still are. How much is a question of definition.
 
Comparing hundreds of thousands to a significantly smaller sum makes no sense. If I was earning hundreds of thousands and an established Premier League footballer well then 3 or 4 grand probably wouldn't make a difference but as the sum of money becomes smaller the more important the difference also becomes especially for a young player.
 
CnutOfAllCnuts said:
How do you know what he is payed at Arsenal?

How do you know how much United offered?

How do you know how much he'd played at United?

You have been inferior to United since the day he signed, and still are. How much is a question of definition.
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English GCSE should be your concern.

I'm going by what newspapers have reported him to be earning, which is all I can do.
 
alastair said:
If you're being paid 100k a week, and you're offered 200k a week, that's a big difference.

Ramsey was not offered 50% more. He was offered 20% more. 10 grand compared to 8 grand. Get your facts right. It's hardly going to make a massive difference on your decision.
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I'm guessing you're not too hot at maths?

If someone is on 8k and gets offered 10k that's a 25% increase.

If someone is on 7k and gets offered 10 (I chose 7 as the midpoint of the "6-8k" mentioned a few posts back) then that's an increase of 43%. Which I rounded up to 50%, for argument's sake.

I don't care how much money any individual is on, the offer of a 40%+ payrise is going to be massively influential when it comes to choosing where to work.
 
The lads on the Sunday Supplement mentioned something I hadn't been aware of - but unfortunately the didn't elaborate on it - which was that at the time of signing Walcott Arsenal could have signed him for quite a bit less, somehow. But they paid what they felt was the going rate and they think that Southampton have probably repaid that favour in helping the lad to choose Arsenal.

If anyone knows the full story behind that I'd be interested to hear it.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I'm guessing you're not too hot at maths?

If someone is on 8k and gets offered 10k that's a 25% increase.

If someone is on 7k and gets offered 10 (I chose 7 as the midpoint of the "6-8k" mentioned a few posts back) then that's an increase of 43%. Which I rounded up to 50%, for argument's sake.

I don't care how much money any individual is on, the offer of a 40%+ payrise is going to be massively influential when it comes to choosing where to work.
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Fair enough. I imagine you don't believe Ramsey then when he said that he came to Arsenal for footballing reasons?
 
alastair said:
English GCSE should be your concern.

I'm going by what newspapers have reported him to be earning, which is all I can do.
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No concern whatsoever, I get by fine both professionally and privately with my English.

I'd love to do business with you though, and your limited maths. :D
 
alastair said:
Fair enough. I imagine you don't believe Ramsey then when he said that he came to Arsenal for footballing reasons?
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It comes down to how candid British players are going to be in giving reasons for choosing clubs.

Saying, footballing reasons, my home club, I want to be nearer my dog and or The size of the club and their ambition are going to be easier to swallow for the British public than say, " They offered me more money" which for some reason we don't want to hear.
 
Inigo Montoya said:
Saying, footballing reasons, my home club, I want to be nearer my dog and or The size of the club and their ambition are going to be easier to swallow for the British public than say, " They offered me more money" which for some reason we don't want to hear.
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Weird that isn't it, I mean, mo money is mo money.
 
sincher said:
We'll probably just put Oxo on his back - to beef up our midfield. I've heard he's quite stocky though.
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Chamberlain's dad, Mark, who won eight England caps in the 1980s, said: "Alex is technically better than Walcott and can play in a more central role. He is not the most robust but he has been working on strengthening since he was 10."
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What exactly does he mean by that
 
Brophs said:
The lads on the Sunday Supplement mentioned something I hadn't been aware of - but unfortunately the didn't elaborate on it - which was that at the time of signing Walcott Arsenal could have signed him for quite a bit less, somehow. But they paid what they felt was the going rate and they think that Southampton have probably repaid that favour in helping the lad to choose Arsenal.

If anyone knows the full story behind that I'd be interested to hear it.
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Didn't Arsenal sign him when he was 16?
Maybe they could've signed him and let the tribunal set a fee instead of negotiating with the club.. Not sure tho
 
alastair said:
Oh yeh, that does make sense. I'll steer clear of mathmatical arguments from now on.
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You can just simply test it out for yourself. 20% more than 8k would be 8*1,20 = 9,6.

To find 20% of 8 you'd multiply with 0,2.

I don't find someone messing up a math problem to be a laughing matter. It's the most messed up thing in school.

In the sense of Ramsay figures, how do you know it's 10k. I've heard it to be way more than that and FM also has it as more and their ballpark figures are most often quite accurate (if I may say so).
 
As much as I hate to do it, I'll have to defend alastair here.

While his Math maybe spastic his overall point is still valid. A salary of 8K Vs 10K isn't a big difference (If these figures are true or he may have pulled it out of his arse). I think Ramsey chose them because he probably felt he would play more at Arsenal. Plus being in London is always a big attraction.
 
All right, get back to topic you gimps

What's the deal about this Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain? I'm told he's the next white Pele :rolleyes:
 
I remember reading that he chose arsenal because wenger actually bothered to meet him and talk him through how he saw his development working out with him as boss.

By all accounts Fergie didn't even say hello to him. He was in the south of France at the time sipping rouge. It was left to Gary Neville to do the explaining....
 
Football | Barclays Premier League | Fergie ready to incur Wenger wrath | ESPNSTAR.com

Fergie ready to incur Wenger wrath

Sir Alex Ferguson plans to hijack Arsenal's bid for Southampton youth prodigy Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain.

According to reports, the Manchester United boss has decided that the 17-year-old is worth angering Arsene Wenger for, and has decided to disrupt the Gunner's £10million bid for the player.

Quotes in the Sun from an United insider said: "The boss (Ferguson ) has made his move and now it's down to the lad and his family to decide - but United are a massive club to turn down."

The Southampton midfielder is coveted by several other clubs in the Barclays Premier League as well, with Liverpool also interested.

His father, Mark Chamberlain, was an England national player in the 1980's, and compared his son favorably against Theo Walcott, saying: "Alex is technically better than Walcott and can play in a more central role.

"He is not the most robust but he has been working on strengthening since he was 10."

However, it is acknowledged that the youngster's advisers are more in favour of him moving to Arsenal, given the club's reputation for the quality of their football as well as Wenger's ability to groom players into stars.
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