Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
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IMO, we don't - not of sufficient quality anyway.
We have Valencia and Nani as first choice wingers.
After that we have Park and Giggs. Giggs is getting on and we really need to look at replacing him (no matter how good he can be). Park is an ok backup, but I really don't rate him as a winger.
After those, you have to look at Bebe, Obertan and Cleverly.
Bebe is still way off being good enough, and may never be - Fergie has also spoken of him as a striker too, recently, so we don't know if he will even be a winger if he does make it.
Obertan shows flashes, but no consistency. Not a first team player at this stag and another Fergie has spoken about in terms of being a central player, not a winger.
Cleverly has done quite well on loan, but (and this could just be me) I don't see him making it as a top winger - he doesn't have the skills of pace for it, more likely to eventually be an AM, a bit like Lampard imo.
In terms of wingers coming through the ranks, we are a bit thin imo - to the point where we are playing Josh King (imo, very much a striker and the potential to be a very good one) on the wing as we don't have other options at Reserve level (and Obertan is played through the middle). Robbie Brady is another youth option, but I honestly don't see enough in him to be a viable long term option.
I suppose you would have to include Fabio, and maybe he will be a winger for us - I can't say to be honest - but right now I would still peg him as a fullback.
So, the way I see it - we definitely have room at the club for another winger in the first team picture, I don't rate a good number of the 'options' we currently have.
Just as well you're not running the club then as SAF seems to rate Welbeck,Keane, Morrison quite highly. I can see them starting next season that's why I don't see Chamberlain here
Welbeck not a 442 winger. I rate him. He can, arguably, play 433 winger/forward, but I wouldn't be looking to play him 442 on the right (and never the left!)
Keane not a winger in any shape or form. A central striker. I rate him, though would have him behind King in terms of potential.
Morrison hasn't been played as a winger in ages - most of last season and all of this season as a central player. I rate him a lot.
I don't rate a number of the options we have on the wing, mentioning strikers and central player that I do rate does not change that, and I don't see why the prospects of those players should have a bearing on signing a player who plays in a different position to them.
That depends on whether we insist on playing 442 or need to change. Why never on the left.He plays there for Sunderland.
We'll never sign this lad
We have young Fabio, he can surely play on wings as from what we've seen of him lately he's done fantastic on the flanks.
On the off chance this story has something behind it, I hope it waits until tomorrow. In the newbs thread on the boy when they all thought we'd have him in January, I said if we did sign him it'd be on a random Tuesday in March. Then I'd be able to say how smart I am.
17, how old is Vanvelzen ? ( Is that correct ? )
Anyhow, Morrison from what I've seen is going to be special, very special.
Anyhow, Morrison from what I've seen is going to be special, very special.
Van Velzen was 16 when we signed him, not sure if he's turned 17 yet.
Van Velzen turns 17 next month.
i've been pretty anti-british this transfer window, but i'd rather take a punt on this lad than ashley young.
i liked what i saw in the short cameo against us.
would rather buy 17 year old potential.
i liked what i saw in the short cameo against us.
would rather buy 17 year old potential.
Obertan or Brown to Southampton???? ????? ?????
what little I have seen of this lad I have been impressed. But Young's quality cannot be disputed. atm, him and Rooney seem to be the key players for England.
I really hope we do get Young.
Wes was linked with Barnsley last week.Obertan or Brown to Southampton???? ????? ?????
I'd like it to be true, but Obertan or Brown in Southampton? To me that just says that it's most likely bollocks. Especially Brown, why on earth would he go to Southampton? He'll get a Premier League club. Of course he will.
I really like Chamberlain, so let's hope that part is true.
With his wage they pay the whole squad
Obertan or Brown to Southampton???? ????? ?????
Why wouldn't Obertan go to Southampton? They'll be in the Championship next season, he could do a good job there.
He's actually got too much talent for a club of that level IMO. A lot of premier league teams should be looking at Obertan. There is loads of potential there.
See what i did there?
Fair, slight hyperbole, but i very much doubt southampton can afford to keep obertan with the wages he'd demand.
A year in the Championship did no harm to Taarabt, a player with supposedly serious potential.
And he is, in my humble opinion, much more talented than Obertan.
And he is, in my humble opinion, much more talented than Obertan.
He can go there on loan, for free, and if we pay his wage.
I don't think Obertan earns that much (at least I hope so...) but yeah, it might be a bit steep for Southampton. But for one of the leading clubs there, I don't think so. One of the relegated sides, maybe?
Though that wouldn't help us getting Oxlade-Chamberlain, true.
Though that wouldn't help us getting Oxlade-Chamberlain, true.
Skysports.com understands that Manchester United and Arsenal are ready to lock horns again over Southampton's Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain after going head-to-head for Phil Jones.
United look set to win that battle, with the Blackburn defender having undergone a medical with the Premier League champions.
Arsenal will be hopeful of landing Oxlade-Chamberlain, with Southampton believed to have slapped a £15million price tag on the 17-year-old winger.
But United could rival the Gunners in a bid to lure the wonderkid to Old Trafford along with Jones and Aston Villa's Ashley Young.
January bid
Arsenal remain favourites having held a long-term interest in the England Under-21 international and they went close to securing a £10m deal at the end of the January transfer window following weeks of talks with Southampton.
The Saints are keen to keep hold of the exciting youngster, though, after winning promotion from League One and chairman Nicola Cortese does not need to cash in on the club's prized asset.
United look set to win that battle, with the Blackburn defender having undergone a medical with the Premier League champions.
Arsenal will be hopeful of landing Oxlade-Chamberlain, with Southampton believed to have slapped a £15million price tag on the 17-year-old winger.
But United could rival the Gunners in a bid to lure the wonderkid to Old Trafford along with Jones and Aston Villa's Ashley Young.
January bid
Arsenal remain favourites having held a long-term interest in the England Under-21 international and they went close to securing a £10m deal at the end of the January transfer window following weeks of talks with Southampton.
The Saints are keen to keep hold of the exciting youngster, though, after winning promotion from League One and chairman Nicola Cortese does not need to cash in on the club's prized asset.
15m
started off at 5 then 10 and now 15.
started off at 5 then 10 and now 15.
This is just cruel, we're going to reduce Wenger to suicide if we keep this shit up! have a heart fergie ffs!!
I'd rather we went for him over Young.
Why not have both?
It may not be a zero sum game. Both are possible. Especially as Oxo-Cuberlain would most likely be loaned back to the Saints
We can't buy everyone.
Ironically enough the one that did choose them over us is the one that we could most do with at this moment in time
Ironically enough the one that did choose them over us is the one that we could most do with at this moment in time
Ramseys good and we did miss out there i agree, but would you really swap Jones and Smalling for him? weve basically sewn up the most important area of a team for the next decade and a half with the two best young centre halfs in the country.
I'd swap Jones for him yes
Smalling not so much as we've seen how good he is
Personally I think midfield is more important than the defence seeing as promising young defenders seem to be ten a penny these days
I think anyone with half a clue would prefer to have a gun midfielder than a gun defender. Having said that, it's easier to find gun midfielders than defenders thesedays.
Not really when its mostly accepted your defence is the bedrock of any successful team as the greatest manager in football history has repeatedly said with his comments on how crucial Ferdinand and Vidic are.
Wouldnt expect you to understand that though you support arsenal.
Not sure what you mean by the term 'gun' but I disagree about it being easier to get midfielders than defenders, in the last 18 months Smalling has emerged, Jones now, you've also got Varane who we were being linked with and in the slightly older bracket the likes of Cahill
In midfield though I cant think of another midfielder in the same age group as promising as Ramsey and Wilshire, people will argue that with the likes of Henderson and Rodwell but IMO neither as of yet have shown they're at the same level as the two Arsenal players
I mean at the top there are more 'world class' midfielders (or top-line midfielders, whatever you want to call them) than defenders. I think this is the case simply by virtue of the fact more players play in the midfield (and there is more room for a variety of sub-sect type of players in the midfield than in defence), and you're likely to have more midfielders in your squad than any other position.
As for Jones: I think he's a fantastic signing, and I expect he and Smalling will form a formidable partnership for United in years to come.
Then again, Barcelona make Mascherano look good at centre-back because their unfairly brilliant midfield usually dominate opponents to an embarassing extent.