Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain completes his transfer to Liverpool
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Why the hell do all these clubs want him? He's bang average.
I honestly haven't the foggiest tbh, the club have made an emphatic point of denying it via a statement and consistently briefing the trusted trio. The Barca acolytes in the media appear convinced although the entitled fecks tried to sell the rights to his welcoming ceremony before even agreeing a fee with us. I don't take much stock in public briefings they change every minute as and when it suits, something that still seem to confuse people. I think he leaves next summer if we're smart, getting Lemar and VVD in and having ox and Keita coming in next window is pretty good progression and planning for eventualities. Something we've lacked the foresight to do in the past.
So we're in France thrashing out a deal for Lemar and negotiating for OX? Hoping someone's got time to take VVD out on the Pepsi max.
I was about to edit that to say could have/on the way to have, but anyway. If they pull of Kieta, Salah, Lemar, Robertson, Solanke and Ox, it will be a fantastic window irrespective of when which player, and even if Coutinho leaves. I'd be delighted if a couple of big talents in the game joined us next season. It obviously depends on whether they pull of the ones which are still rumours, and may not impact them all that much this season (or may do so), but that lot would represent an excellent summer of players with high potential who could on the cusp of big things.
Seems Edwards has finally pulled his finger out this week.
Something I've forgotten is Milners deal expires next summer and Can hasn't signed a new one yet. Coutinho leaving and Lallana hitting 30 and picking up even more injuries in that context getting both makes a lot more sense.
Absolutely.I'd love it if Liverpool get him rather than Lemar.
Klopp is probably alright not strengthening their defence enough to challenge this season if he's unable to, but all the while bagging some big talents that will sort them for years and years in other areas. It's hardly as if Liverpool is a club expected to win the PL. People forget that. IF they get Lemar and Keita, it would be an excellent window.
That's a good point. But please lets not even entertain the idea of Can going. If it meant him getting a raise and the captaincy to stay, I'd give it to him. Though the captaincy is waiting for a Dutchman, but still Can needs to stay. Especially if one of his replacements is going to be ox who despite being a faster player is also gets hampered with injuries. Milner should get a year extension to boot.
Klopp is probably alright not strengthening their defence enough to challenge this season if he's unable to, but all the while bagging some big talents that will sort them for years and years in other areas. It's hardly as if Liverpool is a club expected to win the PL. People forget that. IF they get Lemar and Keita, it would be an excellent window.
Not sure Robertson, Ox, Solanke are some high potential players. Keita is though, he is very good player.
Apart from Salah none of them are first team starters (not sure on Robertson) and Keita will join next summer. So in short they haven't strengthened their first team a lot, added players like Solanke who will replace players like Origi.
If they sign Lemar and VDV then without a doubt they would have having a terrific window.
Thats truw, and their the only in the league capable of winning it before Christmas.
You could be right, I think I'm just really apathetic to all these English "potential" players that come and go year by year. Barkley is another, before that it was Walcott/Wilshire. Always seems to be an excuse why they haven't reached this magical level of talent they all get projected onto them. People don't like to admit they're actually just not very good. Ox might surprise me, but I wouldn't put any money on it.
I put those chaps in to include them all. We can keep having doubts about everyone as I'm sure opposition fans do about our signings. So what if someone joins next summer? This isn't Madrid or Barcelona. Noone expects them to win the league. If they make a habit out of signing players on the rise like Keita, Salah, Lemar, Firmino and Mane, then the club is doing well in the market.
Still perplexed as to why Wenger played him against us, surely he knew he was gone.
Really, genuinely surprised that big clubs are in for him. His Arse career should surely be viewed as a failure?
And that's not down to Wenger, because the same couldn't be said for Sanchez, RvP, or even Cech.
As mental as it sounds, I honestly think part of his popularity is because he's got a cool nickname - like that Hulk chap.
And that's not down to Wenger, because the same couldn't be said for Sanchez, RvP, or even Cech.
As mental as it sounds, I honestly think part of his popularity is because he's got a cool nickname - like that Hulk chap.
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But could you honestly see him coping with Conte? Mind, Klopp won't be putting up with foolishness so it will be interesting to see how he gets on.
All I know is if I were in charge at Arsenal, I would never have him play for us again. He's clearly shown he's not committed.
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But could you honestly see him coping with Conte? Mind, Klopp won't be putting up with foolishness so it will be interesting to see how he gets on.
All I know is if I were in charge at Arsenal, I would never have him play for us again. He's clearly shown he's not committed.
If he's really refusing to go to Chelski now and wants to go to Liverpool then I'd say that the Conte end is a dead one too. It pretty much should be either Liverpool or some midtable/bottom table club now but knowing Arse, should things with Liverpool not work out, they'll keep him. Another one in the sulking bunch.
Read this on ArsenalMania:
Looks like Oxlade-Chamberlain will be signing for Liverpool - only four days after he made his debut for them.
Looks like Oxlade-Chamberlain will be signing for Liverpool - only four days after he made his debut for them.
Read this on ArsenalMania:
Looks like Oxlade-Chamberlain will be signing for Liverpool - only four days after he made his debut for them.
These are all funny lines, but if you look at the team selection and the tactical set-up, all you can think is that Wenger is insane. He got away with it for the last 3-4 years, cause Liverpool and United had been unsteady and in crisis. Now that Mourinho and Klopp have given those teams a new identity and direction Arsene-al are badly exposed.
A move to Chelsea didn't make sense for him given they saw him as a Moses backup/replacement so not surprised he'd rather go to Liverpool
Aidy Ward is OX's agent, he is also Sterling's agent. So after all the shitfest during Sterling's transfer, Liverpool will be dealing with same agent again.
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So he has basically decided he wants to be a CM, looked at Chelsea's side and thought wont get in there, then checked liverpool's and decided he would? He wouldnt get in either side at CM.
Arsenal Mania forum users reckon he is garbage at CM
Arsenal Mania forum users reckon he is garbage at CM
He has been a failure in the grand scheme of things, 9 goals in 150 odd games or something and he has played many of those in attacking positions
Actually didn't realise just how bad his stats are, no wonder Arsenal fans don't care if he leaves.
I was literally just saying that to my mates. 13 goals and 18 assists in 164 games or something. That's shocking for someone who thinks he's an attacking midfielder.
If he's choosing Liverpool for footballing reasons I respect that.
His crossing went up a level last year, before that he didn't have a good cross. His shot is horribly telegraphed. His decision making and lack of intelligence is his key weakness and he often passes to the opposition. Also his workrate is average, nowhere near as good as Bellerin's.
Wenger has one of the best records at top teams of developing youth in Europe. Even in the past 2 seasons he's brought through Bellerin, Holding and Iwobi. George Weah, Thuram, Fabregas and RVP came from obscurity to become world class under him. Henry was a winger who didn't score until Wenger brought him through.
If Ox was ambitious you'd think he'd work harder at actually improving, he hasn't much in 5-6 years.
9 league goals in 6 seasons. That is awful.
The fact it has gone from George Weah, Henry to Bellerin and Iwobi.. says alot about Wenger the manager. He was capable of not only unearthing and moulding top talent, but taking them to the finish line and turning players into the complete article capable of winning titles and producing their best.
He is no longer capable of that, and can't extract the best out of talents. I have no doubt he can still unearth natural talent, but he is a failure at realising the talent.
£40 fecking million. With one year left on his contract. We were definitely robbed in the Sterling deal, he's twice the player and went for only £9 million more, plus he was younger.
Relax, if your board has half a brain cell they'd snap up Barcelonas stupid offers for Coutinho.
The only difference now is that other clubs have improved scouting so top talents like Henry/Fabregas/RVP get snapped up by richer clubs usually. Wenger wanted Mbappe before he signed for Monaco and again this summer, we couldn't compete. He wanted Martial, enquired early to be knocked back, while United had the money to bid big near deadline day. Even after moving away from his youth project he's still bringing more academy players and young players through than any other top5 manager though. He'll probably bring Reiss Nelson through this season.
Chamberlain has had the chances at Arsenal and more often than not has frustrated. Last season after many frsutrating seasons he was actually pretty good wingback, still many of the same problems none the less. Now he wants to move to midfield where he didn't really impress. Ironically if he waited a season and Ozil/Alexis left he'd probably get more chances in the middle than he might at Liverpool.
much different market. Amazing to say it's only been 2 years but it is what it is.
Absolutely bat shit crazy.
£40m seems insane with one year left on his contract. We're talking about the Ox here, not RVP.
There are too many people who base their opinions on players without looking at anything else. I think that's the case with the Ox here, his stats are terrible I think he only scored twice or something last season but I can't think of many attack minded players Klopp has failed to improve in his time at Dortmund and Liverpool so despite the price I'm all for it.
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