On Alejandro Garnacho: It is very likely that he will leave Manchester United in this market. They are looking at options. Napoli is the one that advanced the most and made an offer of 45 million euros but it is not closed. They are the team that puts the most pressure on them. There is no final OK.
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He was, and still is, much better technically.Garnacho is kick and rush, an Argentinian Rashford.Neither was Amad when he was Garnacho's age ffs.
I wasn't referring to you specifically. I've just seen a lot of mental and mathematical gymnastics to try and justify why we should ask for more.
Of course, you can answer in theory, it's £300 million.
Again, the amount of people acting like it's a purely systemic sale, as opposed to simply cashing in on what we might deem to be peak value when we HAVE to sell players, is very frustrating. Garnacho doesn't have some outstanding qualities that make it worth Amorim tweaking the system around.It could be a good decision if he doesn’t really get any better. Sometimes we have been too short sighted in terms of giving youngsters big new contracts or players don’t develop as expected.
These are the type of decisions we need to start getting right, and if we do sell need to ensure the money is spent wisely. In theory the money raised could fast track upgrading the team but putting that into practice is a lot more difficult.
Yeah I'm in total agreement here. Too many are just looking at his age and decent production and then extrapolating that to some elite growth scale thinking he'll be in world XI's potentially in a few years. Not enough are actually looking at the player objectively and trying to figure out WHERE that fabled improvement comes from.He really has massively dipped in form this season, which you just wouldn't expect from a 20 year old becoming more and more of a first teamer. What's his defining trait? Not great technically, not ultra fast, not an out and out goal scorer. He has moments of brilliance but I'm just not sure I see *star* with him.
And I do think it says a lot that it's not every team in European desperate to sign him, it's really just Napoli, straight after they solid their best player. There's a chance we could actually be on the other side of a transfer for once, where we are actually selling to the desperate club.
You combine that with his attitude problems, and his lack of fit with the system, and I really do not have a problem selling.
I'm fully aware of the repercussions over the next 5 years with that sort of outlay. I of course don't think it would be wise either.Yes, in theory, but it would only break even for this financial year (we'd be £60m in the hole every year in years 2, 3 ,4 and 5 and therefore the sum that United can commit to transfers if the Garnacho deal goes through is nowhere near £300m (unless you think we have another four Garnachos lined up and ready to be sold every year for the next four years and cash flow to support the balance of payments for the new players).
What turning point?This is a sale we will likely regret, very sad turning point in the clubs history. We aren't even linked with any attacking players.
Bag of KP Nuts and you pay his salary.Available at a discount if you are keen!
All I'm seeing is speculation and circular reasoning to justify their position, from both sides.Yeah I'm in total agreement here. Too many are just looking at his age and decent production and then extrapolating that to some elite growth scale thinking he'll be in world XI's potentially in a few years. Not enough are actually looking at the player objectively and trying to figure out WHERE that fabled improvement comes from.
Of course he wants to go, he hasn't got the mentality to play for Manchester United.Everyone is posting like the club are forcing him out but he'll have allowed his agent to speak to other people, I do wonder how much he wants to be here and suspect the club know as much, I was intrigued to see Chelsea asking for information on attitude etc, do wonder if there is more to this than meets the eye and it just makes sense for all parties right now
So, for such a wonderful player, he couldn't shine more than any other run of the mill player. That means he's not as great as you're trying to make out.Okay, but then he didn't have more than 2 bad ones either. And those bad seasons came in teams that the underlying statistics had finishing mid-table or even lower.
I remember when Adnan Januzaj first broke through and started off like a house on fire. PSG offered £40m and we turned it down. Hindsight says we should've taken that deal.
No we won’t.We'll sell him on the last day of the window, and not leave time to buy a couple of new players.
That's the only fear I have. We just have to hope we are lining things up before we sell to avoid paying more out of desperation.We'll sell him on the last day of the window, and not leave time to buy a couple of new players.
We've lost much better players and talents before as wellWhat turning point?
We've always sold players, there's nothing new in that.
He obviously wants to go60+10, 45 million euros, I’d rather just keep him.
Think it's more a skillset thing than understanding tbh. I don't doubt he understands the change, but the things he's good at don't really lend themselves to it.
If he was going to nail down a spot in this system he'd be more suited to wingback IMO.
It's called a negotiationHe's staying then, move on
He really has massively dipped in form this season, which you just wouldn't expect from a 20 year old becoming more and more of a first teamer. What's his defining trait? Not great technically, not ultra fast, not an out and out goal scorer. He has moments of brilliance but I'm just not sure I see *star* with him.
And I do think it says a lot that it's not every team in Europe is desperate to sign him, it's really just Napoli, straight after they sold their best player. There's a chance we could actually be on the other side of a transfer for once, where we are actually selling to the desperate club.
You combine that with his attitude problems, and his lack of fit with the system, and I really do not have a problem selling.
How it is obvious? Is he the first player who has received bids?He obviously wants to go
Yeah I’ve said before, in a perfect world we just keep him and see what ends up happening with his development, but the hard truth is we HAVE to sell someone and he’s the best bet of current value to sell.All I'm seeing is speculation and circular reasoning to justify their position, from both sides.
It is never good to sell young players with potential, but if Amorin is here for the long term and Garnacho doesn't fit the system there is not much we can do.
Comparing him to Ronaldo is pointless. Ronaldo, one of the greatest players of all time, was managed by the greatest manager of all time and played in an already established, winning team, a situation very different from what Garnacho is facing
Rashford said it publically. Garnacho has been shopping himself about with his agents.How it is obvious? Is he the first player who has received bids?
Rashford who is not even getting serious offers is frozen out because he wanted out. Garnacho is playing. I am not sure its that obvious.
He is only few players that will actually fetch us some money
