Alejandro Garnacho (out) | Chelsea make enquiries

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Some kid scored the best goal I've ever seen against us couple of weeks back, an intentional overhead kick from just inside the 18 yard, top corner.

Yes our goalkeeper is 18 stone with a fecked knee and only plays because his rugby team won't start him anymore. Yes half of our team were on then piss the night before. Yes we play in one of the lowest rungs of Welsh football.

I'll forward his details to big Jim, I could be the Welsh Jorge Mendes.
Siôr Menfflllywyndes and Christopher Vivell could make quite the team.
 
Why would Chelsea want garnacho when Estavio is arriving from Brasil and plays in the same position?
Chelsea's business strategy appears to be to buy every player in the world, thus removing all competition and winning everything by default
 
This is what baffles me most about the discussion around these players. Garnacho is a hit and run winger. He has a keen positional sense and finds himself in good areas but his technical ability on the ball is really poor. And it hasn't improved. He's not going to suddenly unlock better dribbling technique at whatever random age interval if it hasn't improved over the last 100 appearances. I like his graft and he has some talent but this side has been crying out for technical players that can retain the ball. And that's one of his biggest weaknesses.
Tbf that's a great quality, most of the talented youngsters who fail in the PL are because they can't get themselves into games to have any influence. He's almost always dangerous, which is why he made it so far in the PL not looking out of place.
 
Disagree, Amad is a much better player and always has been, even 3 years ago. Gernacho is no way on the same upward trajectory.
So this is how it works. Just disagree with a well made point without bothering to explain your rationale.
 
I'm against selling to Chelsea unless it's a major fee. He's not a liability like Rashford or Sancho, and far from it.

We're only selling him as he doesn't fit the system, essentially. He's 20, has buckets of talent, and a strong mentality on the pitch.

They've been paying 100m for any old cnut these days so Garnacho should be worth that to them. Otherwise, feck off!
 
TBH I don't know. I genuinely believe as a club, we tend to overrate our youngsters far more than other teams due to our history of bringing through a few. I genuinely don't believe that Martial or Rashford had ever shown the type of talent that led us to reward them with the type of grace and money that we have. I would love for Garnacho to become a top talent, but in all honesty, it really isn't a guarantee like people want to make it seem.

In fact, I'd say, he scares me in some similar ways as Rashford and Martial used to. They were good in specific situations, but outside of those moments, when asked to do other things, they were always found wanting. In Rashford's case, he's has poor iq, poor dribbling, poor movement in the box, an inability to hold the ball and difficulty playing on the ground. His touch was always loose. As an attacker for a team trying to break down teams, outside of a few athletic bursts and strong shooting outside the box, he doesn't offer much. Martial could not play at all with his right foot, making him a completely liability when ever he wasn't given the space to cut inside. He wasn't a strong passer of the ball and struggled on the turn. His movement off the ball was horrendous as well. Not a good finisher either. Outside of using some dribbling ability to cut inside with his right foot, his impact on the game was pretty limited and barely showed signs of growing outside of a brief stint from in August 2020.

That's my big concern with Garnacho. What he has in his game is mostly confidence and being able to drive at the oppositon when given space. He's not a good finisher, cant really go on the outside, doesn't have a great touch, or have a good link up game. He may grow, but as a team, we need good quality now and one we can guarantee based on what they can currently provide.

Last 3 games, he has set up 3 big chances by going on the outside. If anything, how Garnacho has responded to being benched has impressed me very much. He shows he’s willing to learn and improve. Look at his assist against Liverpool for Amad, assist for Bruno against Arsenal and the 2 times the crossed it in, but there was no one in the middle, and the cross to Antony against Southampton.

I can’t believe that you’re making a comment about him being unable to go on the outside after watching those 3 games. He clearly has a lot more to learn to play this system, but he’s very coach able and has a high ceiling.

I also like the fact that he’s deleted his social media account, and that seems to have come from the manager.

He’s making all the right decisions to fight for his place, unlike Rashford, and if it wasn’t for PSR - United would no way consider selling him.
 
If he cheered up a bit, used his brain a bit more often and finished more chances, there is definitely a player in there.

I'd say Amad is the only player I don't want sold but Garnacho is our only player with genuine pace. I'd keep him unless it's a silly offer. If we had a top striker, Amad/Garnacho/New Striker could be good going forward
 
Then you're left with a player your manager doesn't like and less money to buy ones he does.

That isn't true. There are other teams interested.

It won't be the worst decision in thee world for us to keep him until the summer and reassess either. He'll get plenty of game-time.
 
Then you're left with a player your manager doesn't like and less money to buy ones he does.
I'm not convinced Amorim doesn't like him. He's clearly struggling to find his role in the new setup, but he's showing progress and has been singled out for that by the coach
 
Feel like the last time they did, they still got good fees for some of their players
They got over £50m for Lavia when they were relegated though they had spent around £15m to get him from City and City had a 20% sell on clause.

I'm assuming Dibling is an academy product, so they don't need to take into account how much they paid for him or any sell on clauses.
 
So posters on here are willing to get rid of a youngster from our academy who has potential and still has a long way to go because he does not fit in the #10 role, and want to replace him with an unproven right winger whose stats/numbers are nowhere Garnacho’s, to fit him in a position he has never played in. Only on the caf.
 
So posters on here are willing to get rid of a youngster from our academy who has potential and still has a long way to go because he does not fit in the #10 role, and want to replace him with an unproven right winger whose stats/numbers are nowhere Garnacho’s, to fit him in a position he has never played in. Only on the caf.

which player are you referring to?
 
Dibling looked exciting, no idea if he can fit in our system though
He is definitely exciting and if we were playing 4-3-3, I would love to take a relatively inexpensive chance on him as a project.

However, posts calling out buying him to replace Garnacho are laughable at best.
 
So posters on here are willing to get rid of a youngster from our academy who has potential and still has a long way to go because he does not fit in the #10 role, and want to replace him with an unproven right winger whose stats/numbers are nowhere Garnacho’s, to fit him in a position he has never played in. Only on the caf.
He did dribble past our defence twice on Thursday, though.
 
He is definitely exciting and if we were playing 4-3-3, I would love to take a relatively inexpensive chance on him as a project.

However, posts calling out buying him to replace Garnacho are laughable at best.

yeah true

but 50% of the posts in the football forum are laughable

there was endless debate in rashford thread on the economics of why we won't get a good fee for him, when it's blindingly obvious we won't
 
He did dribble past our defence twice on Thursday, though.
As a right winger. We have no idea what his potential is like as a winger, let alone as a #10, where he has almost no experience.

Don’t get me wrong, I think he is potentially an exciting prospect, but posters wanting to sell Garnacho as they have no patience for a 20 year old, only to suggest Dibling as a replacement in the same post is just silly.
 
As a right winger. We have no idea what his potential is like as a winger, let alone as a #10, where he has almost no experience.

Don’t get me wrong, I think he is potentially an exciting prospect, but posters wanting to sell Garnacho as they have no patience for a 20 year old, only to suggest Dibling as a replacement in the same post is just silly.
Aye, sorry I was being sarcastic and agreeing with you.
 
So posters on here are willing to get rid of a youngster from our academy who has potential and still has a long way to go because he does not fit in the #10 role, and want to replace him with an unproven right winger whose stats/numbers are nowhere Garnacho’s, to fit him in a position he has never played in. Only on the caf.
More to do with the fact that he's not all that.
 
It’s all just clickbait nonsense.

He is going nowhere.

Why would we sell him, make the squad weaker when we cannot even spend the money this window anyway.

Let’s be thankful that we’re getting £25m at the end of the season from Chelsea for Sancho.
 
It’s all just clickbait nonsense.

He is going nowhere.

Why would we sell him, make the squad weaker when we cannot even spend the money this window anyway.

Let’s be thankful that we’re getting £25m at the end of the season from Chelsea for Sancho.
It's just not clickbait though is it.

Is he likely to go in January? Probably not, but there is clearly interest, which is backed up by multiple credible sources.
 
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