If we sell him for less than 90/100 to Chelsea then we are idiots
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Alejandro Garnacho (out) | Chelsea make enquiries
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Why would we want mctominay back? He wasn't good enough first time round. I'm glad he's playing well in Italy which is a lower standard but still a good league. But as far as United is concerned, he's just not good enough for where we want to be.
The pitches are shite as well, which for someone who likes to dribble as much as Diallo must have been annoying. Sure, Ibrox and Celtic Park might be fine but have you ever seen Aberdeen's stadium during the Autumn months?
Napoli at 55 million and Chelsea will be min. 80 million. I believe transfer will slowly be in check. If you look, clubs are spending less money on players. Italian clubs are poor, Spanish clubs except for Real are not spending much. Even in England, only Chelsea is signing players for crazy money. With Ineos running United, we will see us going for young potential players with realistic fee. I would take Chelsea 80 million for sure. Not because Garnacho isn't good but he really doesn't fit Amorim system.
Should have done a straight swap for that Georgian winger
If we can sell abroad it be better. Dont really fancy selling to rivals. Plus one of our young lads.
No it’s not our problem because we are not desperate to sell him. We have the right to play hard ball on this. Finding his replacement and upgrading him for 50m won’t be easy. Garnacho is not on high wages and he’s still a young talented player, so his value should be higher than 50m.Well ye because they won’t be buying him so we won’t be getting money.
65m-70m for Napoli or 95m-100m for chelsea.
No he wasn’t, very raw but he was clearly a baller. His shitty rangers loan wasn’t all his fault, and he smashed it at Sunderland. He only warmed the bench at Utd last season because ETH did know how to use him. Slightly rewriting history here tbf. Bit unfair.
Not interested in an Amad vs Garnacho debate, they are both players we should be holding onto for the future.
99% of this fan base would have happily sold Amad with no fecks given. He couldn’t establish himself here and whilst he did well in the Championship he was equally as bad at Rangers let’s not pretend otherwise
Garnacho has nearly 100 appearances, cup final goals a Argentinian international he’s well ahead of Amad in this age bracket come off it
Not for sale! It would be stupid to sell the young talents we can build a future on.
There’s a difference in making 30 appearances in the championship to having to perform every week in the PL the fact he was loaned out because he wasn’t ready proves my entire point.
I love Amad but let’s be real it’s not until recently that he’s looked like he even has a future here, he’s been here 5 years he had 1 PL goal before this season started, Garnacho is approaching 100 games it’s ridiculous
You think Garnacho is the better player currently?
If we had top talented attackers like Greenwood, Pogba, prime Martial, and prime Rashford, Garnacho would go on loan or wouldn’t be anywhere near starting now.
Amad scored his first goal at United at 18 vs AC Milan, same as Garnacho that his first goal was at 18. Garnacho wasn’t starting at 18, he was more an impact player.
The key about playing in PL is about being physically ready. Both are different players. Garnacho showing less technical player than Amad was at 20 imo but more direct and has more speed, hence why physically he’s ready to play in PL.
Amad showed to be more technical player when he was 18 or 19, but physically he wasn’t ready to play in PL at that time. He grew a lot at 20 when he was on loan at sunderland and learnt how to play in English football at championship. At 21, he suffered injuries so it slowed down his development.
No I think Amad is turning into a real quality player and has gone up a level but that’s partly my point Garnacho’s is 3 years younger and has a even higher potential if we’re comparing both players at 20 years old
There’s obviously no guarantee’s but it’s madness to be selling such potential
So it's not mud, it watered seagull shit
It doesn’t work like that though you can’t just put the word prime in front of a player to prove a point Garnacho has been picked ahead of the likes of Martial and Rashford in recent seasons and Pogba was a midfielder
We were desperate for a winger and chased Sancho all summer before signing Amad let’s not pretend those players you listed were setting the place on fire we were shite then like we are now
Amad didn't get a fair chance to play, he's always been good. If he had been given the same chance like Gernacho he would have more goals and assists. He was always better than Gernacho, but wasn't given the chances he was.
Basically one of the coaches under Ten Haag said he was 5th choice. Even Amari Forson was played ahead of him. Shows how clueless ETH was.
Disagree, Amad is a much better player and always has been, even 3 years ago. Gernacho is no way on the same upward trajectory.
If we are going to sell at all, probably better to sell to somewhere like Napoli for £60m with a buyback clause at £100m, than to Chelsea for £90m.
I’m not in favour of it at all though. We should be the alpha predators of world football, not a club who has to sell world class potential to raise a bob or two. I’d take the hit of not being able to buy rather than having to sell our prize assets.
Way back in the day my Grandpa's brother played for Aberdeen, most have been a familar sight!The pitches are shite as well, which for someone who likes to dribble as much as Diallo must have been annoying. Sure, Ibrox and Celtic Park might be fine but have you ever seen Aberdeen's stadium during the Autumn months?
Amad has played less football than Garnacho despite being 3 years older and is head and shoulders above him in terms of ability.
Hilariously out of touch
That’s just opinion we can only judge on actual games
Look I’m not here to hammer Amad he’s quality, easily one of my favourite players currently in the squad and if we’re comparing their current seasons he’s doing way better than Garnacho, my point from the start is talking about potential it’s virtually fact that Garnacho is ahead in development than Amad was at the same age there’s no argument to be had
We can because that’s what actually happened with Amad during his time in 2020-2022. If the current Garnacho plays in 2020/2021, just like Amad that Garnacho wouldn’t be anywhere near in starting games at all and would struggle to get minutes. 20/21 Rashford would start over him on the left, 20/21 Pogba would start over him on the left, and 20/21 Greenwood would start over him on the right.
Agree, just because a player came through the youth into the first team doesn't mean they will reach the class of 92 levels.
Our levels have dropped so low, we are classing Gernacho with future world class potential. Only Amad is currently only one of the few players who could regularly play for Fergie.
Yeah I remember the threads 18 months ago of everybody screaming for Amad to be starting games at United
His name was mentioned more in the ‘who to sell’ threads than those expecting him to be a first teamer and that’s a fact
Stop projecting your experience onto everyone else
If you'd have bothered to watch Amad at Sunderland then it would have been obvious to you.
Again that's a subjective opinion, we can agree to disagree there. Most fans see it differently, Amad was much more developed at the same age.the fact that Ole and ETH kept loaning him out doesn't disguise that.
But you would have said the exact same thing about Amad when he joined no? You’re not telling me when Amad was 20 you were like ‘yep he’s a star’
Madness this thread
Yes I did, as soon as we signed I watched his previous matches at Atalanta and a kept an eye on him at loans. I never changed my opinion, 8 always rated as one of our best upcoming players and better than Gernacho.
Stop projecting your experience onto everyone else
If you'd have bothered to watch Amad at Sunderland then it would have been obvious to you.
I must have missed those years people have been clambering for Amad to be the clubs saviour. History is being rewritten has we speak
His potential was that high we went and spent about 200m on wingers in his position
Absolute nonsense
We spent that much on wingers because we had deluded managers. Even Pellestri would be more effective in Rubens system.
There are only 2 players Ruben has said are 'The Future of this Club' : Amad and Mazraoui. He saw it straight away and so did Ruud.
Mr 'Process' ETH was not the best judge of players, the fact we spent circa 80m on Anthony proves that.
‘Development’ is such a useless term in this debate because they have different skill sets. Garnacho can have all the development he wants but I’ll be very surprised if he ever develops the technical ability of Amad. And this isn’t something new with Amad because he has shown it at Atalanta. The question was whether he could carry that into the PL, and slowly but surely he has.
So Garnacho has zero potential of becoming a similar player. I’m not sure what his actual potential is as I don’t see any truly outstanding qualities to his game.
100% I agree, like I said Amad has stepped up and quickly become a valuable player I’m not arguing about that I hope Amad becomes one of the best wingers in the league
My argument has been against his ability at 20 years old when compared to Garnacho, the latter has scored cup final goals and his on the way to making 100 appearances whilst Amad wasn’t ready for PL football and was loaned out its mind blowing to me those who think Garnacho can’t reach a similar level
Though i don't think think ganacho is playing well at the moment and hasn't done for months; it seems a little premature to gave given up on him and wanting to sell him if the price is right.
Let's wait till the summer and see if amorim has a better assessment and then willing to make that choice. It just seems very kneejerkish to sell him -- after all Ruben's being here barely two months and for a kid who until recently was touted as one of the best youngsters in the world.
Let's wait till the summer and see if amorim has a better assessment and then willing to make that choice. It just seems very kneejerkish to sell him -- after all Ruben's being here barely two months and for a kid who until recently was touted as one of the best youngsters in the world.
That's the point where I disagree, he was 20 years old at Sunderland and was their best player. He won the Fans PFA player of the year at Sunderland. Had he been in the United team he would have done just as good if not better than Gernacho. He has wlays been good and quick to work on his game.
The fact that Ruben said he was very intelligent and picked up the fullback role after 1 or 2 trainings says it all. Gernacho has had plenty of games and has still not adapted to the No10 role.
Benni or Rene Hake (can't remember) said ETH considered him 5th choice. Shows the stupidity of our previous manager. This lad would have saved his job (glad he didn't tbh).
However it looks like we will have to agree to disagree on this one as you have an opposing viewpoint.
Yeah not much technical ability on that overhead kick against Everton
If ckub czars gave decided that there’s no hope for Garnacho, cashing in on him at 60m is sensible. But who do we’d bring in that offers more to squad performance?
I do not view Garnacho as a shit squad man.
I do not view Garnacho as a shit squad man.
It honestly blows my mind that so many people here would be happy to sell Garnacho. The kid is mint. Fergie would have loved him
Scoring an overhead kick isn’t the measure of a players technical ability. Otherwise I’ve seen a few Sunday league players we should be having a look at.
I could point to him missing an absolute sitter the other day if that’s the logic we’re using..