Rolaholic
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£80m is what City got for Alvarez who played the most games for them in his last season and is a starter for the World Cup champions. Garnacho can't nail down a starting position for United and is just a squad filler for Argentine.feck off with that poor ass offer. If it was any team with sense selling Garnacho, he'd be 80- 100m easily.
£80m is what City got for Alvarez who played the most games for them in his last season and is a starter for the World Cup champions. Garnacho can't nail down a starting position for United and is just a squad filler for Argentine.
Nappli's offer is poor but he isn't worth more than £50-55m.
on the golden boy list last season is an exampleWhat are you basing this on?
Correct. At the same time, Alvarez made his debut for Argentina two and a half years later than Garnacho. Garnacho did it at 19 while Alvarez did it well past his 21st birthday (and was a year older at the time than Garnacho now).
When you buy someone as young as Garnacho from a top league you are also making a gamble on their potential. Something we have done and tried with Hojlund. 60 would be bare minimum imo.
yes but for a player like Garnacho you arent selling him for what he's worth right now.£80m is what City got for Alvarez who played the most games for them in his last season and is a starter for the World Cup champions. Garnacho can't nail down a starting position for United and is just a squad filler for Argentine.
Nappli's offer is poor but he isn't worth more than £50-55m.
The rules have changed since those days, what Abramovic could do is not allowed anymore, that's what FFP and now PSR was brought in to stop, a clubs expenditure is now based on what its icome is, whilst it's probably still possible for some money to come in it's not basically a blank check anymoreJust for a little Clarity, Abramovic estimated wealth is around 10 Billion, Ratcliffes is around 16 Billion, in Dollars that is by the way.
This weird thing people have about him not having the money to run the club needs to stop, he's already invested 380 million of his own money in this year alone. Just because he's not running it like PSG or City does not mean he's not able to.
That is a good point regarding their debut and tbh I think Alvarez was overpriced but he had the pedigree when he was sold.Correct. At the same time, Alvarez made his debut for Argentina two and a half years later than Garnacho. Garnacho did it at 19 while Alvarez did it well past his 21st birthday (and was a year older at the time than Garnacho now).
When you buy someone as young as Garnacho from a top league you are also making a gamble on their potential. Something we have done and tried with Hojlund. 60 would be bare minimum imo.
This isn't really a great barometer. Garnacho was given his debut earlier that he probably otherwise would have been because he was also eligible for Spain and Argentina wanted to secure him as an option for them.Correct. At the same time, Alvarez made his debut for Argentina two and a half years later than Garnacho. Garnacho did it at 19 while Alvarez did it well past his 21st birthday (and was a year older at the time than Garnacho now).
When you buy someone as young as Garnacho from a top league you are also making a gamble on their potential. Something we have done and tried with Hojlund. 60 would be bare minimum imo.
I don't think United should sell now but they should be open for offers in the summer and don't overinflate his value.yes but for a player like Garnacho you arent selling him for what he's worth right now.
you would be selling him for what he's worth based on things like potential
we don't need to sell and if we did it would be leaving us very short in attack
these are all factors
yeah it would be the earliest time Amorim will consider it I'd imagineI don't think United should sell now but they should be open for offers in the summer.
This isn't really a great barometer. Garnacho was given his debut earlier that he probably otherwise would have been because he was also eligible for Spain and Argentina wanted to secure him as an option for them.
We were buying a player that the selling club didnt have to sell nor wanted to sell. We seem to be open to selling Garnacho and might even have to sell him to buy some players that better suit the system.
That is a good point regarding their debut and tbh I think Alvarez was overpriced but he had the pedigree when he was sold.
Most agree United overpaid massively for Hojlund. I don't see anyone offering £60m for Garnacho based on his performances or potential.
We absolutley DO need to sell though, that's sort of the entire point here. Garnacho is one of the few players with real market value that we have, and it can be argued might be expendable as well.yes but for a player like Garnacho you arent selling him for what he's worth right now.
you would be selling him for what he's worth based on things like potential
we don't need to sell and if we did it would be leaving us very short in attack
these are all factors
Feck sake a lad who just turned 20 in July People seem to forget Diallo is exactly two years older than him and spent last season in the championship. There born the same month.
We all know he shouldn't be a regular starter and should be coming on in 70th minute or starting cup games but the lad has all the talent in the world.
It's not his fault we have wasters like Rashford and Sancho and spent 90 million on Anthony and got thrown in the deep end.
Fans news to be patient with him, it's not his fecking fault our club is a shambles and Garnacho has to fill the void after just turning 20.
Anyone that wants him out want there head examined
Sadly true. UTD are broke. I don't see us getting a player in outside of a loan unless we make a sale. We halfway through the window and zero signs of anyone coming in.If UTD can get 70 mil for him then do it. Otherwise keep him. He's a young player, young players are going to have down seasons. He might very well bounce back and be on track to a world class player. I'd like very much to keep him. But I don't see how we can afford a striker, a LB another midfield and probably one more CB without a huge sale. And Rashford value is in the tanker so its seems it has to be GarnachoIt is not Garnacho his fault but he could be a sollution to solve the problem of having wasted loads of money on Antony, Sancho and Rashford. I doubt many actually want to see Garnacho leave but if selling him for a good amount of money so (better) players who fit the tactic better could be bought, it might be the best option to sell Garnacho.
Garnacho has shown much more for us than Palmer for CityWe all laugh at City selling Palmer, but selling Garnacho is akin to that.
The lad is supremely talented, has courage and got involved in that little spat with Ugarte vs Arsenal.
Literally one of my favourite players and is only, what 20 years old (?)
I'd be mortified if we sold him; an exciting young talent, exactly what we previously nurtured.
Pretty sure if Palmer played as many games for City as Garnacho has for us that wouldn't be the case.Garnacho has shown much more for us than Palmer for City
Very trueGarnacho has shown much more for us than Palmer for City
Who cares if it’s pure profit for PSR, people have been slating us for selling poorly for years (quite rightly) and all of a sudden half the cafe want the bare minimum for a player we should be keeping let alone selling for around £70M.As much as I like Garnacho, £50m would get the job done. It's pure profit for PSR and we can spend the money on two signings if we spread the payments. We need system players right now, he doesn't fit this system as talented as he his. We can't be sentimental anymore, we have to get back to our previous level eventually and supporting Ruben is the only way that will come and if this allows us the funds to do that then so be it.
Elanga would be a perfect wing back in the new system.You could argue we sold Elanga too early. If we did the same with Garnacho and he realises his potential elsewhere we could really, really regret it.
I read it as being realistic evaluating their chances of signing him. A player that doesn't want to move for roughly half the asking price in January is a long shotJust caught this does it mean they are realistic in knowing they have to pay more, or realistic in their ability to stretch to out valuation
Might well be a summer deal at this rate.